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14:00:00 <trackbot> Meeting: XForms Users Community Group Teleconference
14:00:00 <trackbot> Date: 22 April 2022
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14:01:57 <Steven> Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2022Apr/0006
14:02:31 <Alain__> Hello! I cannot see the link to the meeting on IRC...
14:02:39 <Steven> Previous meeting: https://www.w3.org/2022/04/01-forms-minutes
14:03:50 <Steven> Steven has changed the topic to: https://meet.google.com/dfz-rwpj-opq
14:05:44 <Steven> Topic: ACTION-2315: Report on event handling in web components (Erik)
14:05:44 <Steven> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2022Jan/0020
14:05:50 <Steven> Erik: Continues
14:06:00 <Steven> Topic: ACTION-2314: Compose text that matches the <control/> discussion for
14:06:00 <Steven> mirroring (Steven)
14:06:00 <Steven> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2022Feb/0001
14:06:14 <Steven> Steven: I'm a bit ashamed to say that I haven't finished this yet.
14:06:30 <Steven> Topic: ACTION-2319: Investigate the work required for a scheme registration
14:06:30 <Steven> (Steven)
14:06:30 <Steven> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2022Apr/0000
14:06:58 <Steven> Close ACTION-2319
14:06:58 <trackbot> Closed ACTION-2319.
14:07:14 <Steven> Steven: I did the work, we discussed last week, and moved it into ALain's action
14:07:39 <Steven> Topic:  ACTION-2320: Suggest a method of specifying a response for an echo
14:07:39 <Steven> (Alain)
14:07:39 <Steven> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2022Apr/0005
14:08:48 <Steven> Steven: Looks fine
14:09:32 <Steven> Alain: Should we allow the submission to continue
14:09:52 <Steven> Erik: DOM Events allows you to cancel the default action.
14:10:08 <Steven> ... XForms does it non-conditionally.
14:10:59 <Steven> Steven: Is it an AVT?
14:11:04 <Steven> Erik: Not sure...
14:11:20 <Steven> ... it could be, or is implicitly
14:11:53 <Steven> ... In Javascript, at some point you can say whether to cancel or not.
14:12:33 <Steven> Steven: Proposing an action <cancel/> ?
14:12:41 <Steven> Erik: Possible.
14:13:10 <Steven> ... it depends on our use cases.
14:13:56 <Steven> ACTION: Steven to propose text for a <cancel/> action
14:13:56 <trackbot> Created ACTION-2321 - Propose text for a <cancel/> action [on Steven Pemberton - due 2022-04-29].
14:14:12 <Steven> Erik: WRT thios new submission event
14:14:22 <Steven> s/thios/this/
14:16:09 <Steven> Alain: request-body is modelled on response-body that we get with a submit-done
14:16:46 <Steven> Steven: Does this cover our echo use case?
14:17:11 <Steven> Erik: It would allow an echo-style processing.
14:17:47 <Steven> Alain: I was thinking about adding a simulated server response.
14:18:22 <Steven> Erik: I see a difficulty. When you get an actual response, there is the replacement part.
14:18:35 <Steven> ... with this event you would have to do that by hand.
14:18:39 <Steven> Alain: Right.
14:20:15 <ebruchez> response-body (object (string or node-sequence))
14:20:15 <ebruchez> When the error response specifies an XML mediatype as defined by [RFC 3023], the response body is parsed into an XML document and the root element of the document is returned. If the parse fails, or if the error response specifies a text mediatype (starting with text/), then the response body is returned as a string. Otherwise, an empty string is returned.
14:20:19 <Steven> Erik: Looking at the text for response-body...
14:21:45 <Steven> ... we may have to work on that (for instance application/json)
14:23:35 <Steven> ... I was confused, this is for submit-error, but we (Orbeon) do this for submit-done as well.
14:23:46 <Steven> ... we should do that for submit-done as well.
14:24:54 <Steven> ACTION: Erik to summarise the submit/done/error response-body issues
14:24:55 <trackbot> Created ACTION-2322 - Summarise the submit/done/error response-body issues [on Erik Bruchez - due 2022-04-29].
14:26:07 <Steven> Steven: So to summarise, we are OK with the general approach, but need to clear up some issues
14:26:47 <Steven> Erik: The goal is for debugging submission, and for that this is a good solution, but I still need to wrap my head around it.
14:28:14 <Steven> Topic: ACTION-2313: Research the alternatives for 'dirty' data, and produce
14:28:14 <Steven> code in all of them for comparison (Steven)
14:28:14 <Steven> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2022Jan/0012
14:28:14 <Steven> (Was: Detecting/Ignoring unsaved data
14:28:15 <Steven> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2022Jan/0008)
14:28:21 <Steven> Steven: Continues
14:28:35 <Steven> Topic: State change events
14:28:35 <Steven> https://www.w3.org/2018/09/26-forms-minutes.html#item05
14:28:35 <Steven> https://www.w3.org/2022/03/25-forms-minutes#t06
14:28:44 <Steven> Steven: We still need to discuss this.
14:29:19 <Steven> ... discuss in the future
14:29:29 <Steven> Topic: Call next week
14:29:29 <Steven> [No link]
14:29:48 <Steven> Steven: I'm in Atlanta, so it will be a new experience for me.
14:30:11 <Steven> Topic: AOB
14:30:51 <Steven> Steven: XML Prague is going ahead, I have two submissions, but on ixml
14:31:03 <Steven> [ADJOURN]
14:31:29 <Steven> Present: Alain, Erik, Steven
14:31:35 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes
14:31:35 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/04/22-forms-minutes.html Steven
14:32:05 <Steven> Chair: Steven
14:32:34 <Steven> s/ALain/Alain/G
14:33:16 <Steven> s/that we get with a submit-done/that we get with a submit-error
14:34:02 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes
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