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18:59:59 <trackbot> Meeting: Mobile Accessibility Task Force Teleconference
18:59:59 <trackbot> Date: 11 April 2022
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19:04:46 <Kim_patch> present+
19:04:54 <JanJaapdeGroot> present+
19:12:03 <Kim_patch> TOPIC: introductions
19:12:40 <Kim_patch> Jan Jaap or JJ: android and iOS
19:13:05 <Kim_patch> JJ: last two years trying to apply WCAG to mobile apps – I focus on solutions
19:13:51 <Kim_patch> JJ: code examples for native apps – working on for the last two years trying to map between guidelines to solutions – how to fix issues, and that's why I decided to join this group to see if I can help with mobile apps and accessibility – also focusing lately on European accessibility
19:14:09 <Kim_patch> JJ: goal is to make apps more accessible good place to start is WCAG guidelines
19:15:35 <Kim_patch> Vicki-Jane or VJ: Work closely with advocacy organization supports 200 people with learning disabilities. Consult on ease of reading documents and Working on ways of providing the lived experience of all kinds of neuro- Divergent peopleConversations around what constitutes inclusion future all apps and guidelines with artistic and learning disabled people as a matter of standard practice.
19:16:37 <Kim_patch> VJ: Funded by Walsh government innovation arm project access statement creating apps so that we can do something about the marginalization and terrible employment rate of Neuro- divergent people. UK 80% unemployed neuro- diversion adults. Consult with other tech startups to help them design their products to be neuro- inclusive from the get-go. Hub of activity in the South Wales region. Naturally bilingual country
19:17:25 <Kim_patch> VJ: bilingual – all roadsigns etc. have to be bilingual there's a lot to be learned in ways Wales has had to adapt to bilingualism and in many cases trilingual with incorporation of UK sign language as well.
19:18:39 <JanJaapdeGroot> Kim: I use speech recognition and train people to use speech input, created add-on for Dragon to enhance user experience
19:19:50 <JanJaapdeGroot> Kim: I am also a journalist, and test out accessibility tools in various scenarios
19:20:27 <JanJaapdeGroot> Kim: Part of W3C mobile task force and other groups
19:21:12 <JanJaapdeGroot> Kim: introduced the other members of the team, folks who work at companies and public institutions
19:22:25 <JanJaapdeGroot> Kim: Check in status: all OK, reports there is one spreadsheet change
19:25:24 <JanJaapdeGroot> Kim, VJ: Discussing some of the spreadsheets which are mentioned in the Agenda doc
19:27:22 <JanJaapdeGroot> Kim, VJ: Discussion about voice recognition software - for people who are deaf and/or have muscle impairments
19:31:00 <JanJaapdeGroot> VJ: Future of Personal Computers are no personal computers but mobile phones which include assistive technologies
19:38:06 <JanJaapdeGroot> Kim: Voice Control on iOS should have the ability to edit commands and share with other people
19:56:08 <Kim_patch> Research spreadsheet https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zinXnFksB7Ur1RAJCoDjdEUfF7QX9n6J6xLUldzwKMo/edit#gid=0
19:56:31 <Kim_patch> Mobile device features spreadsheet  https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1j1-C7t4sHtJqLT4YKJqLfJIl28DET6gYBQPczDFDWpY/edit#gid=0
19:56:41 <Kim_patch> Dark mode
19:57:53 <Kim_patch> JJ: problem of not using European standard, just Using WCAG but for apps there are additional requirements but they're not being tested – mismatch between theory and practice
19:59:27 <Kim_patch> JJ: a lot of developers want to put in accessibility features, but funding, knowing what to do, direction to
20:03:33 <Kim_patch> JJ: problem with android is settings wordings are different with different flavors of android different manufacturers – not standard
20:08:49 <Kim_patch> Present+ VJ
20:09:07 <Kim_patch> Regrets+ Jennifer, Perrin
20:09:17 <Kim_patch> chair: Kimberly_Patch
20:09:24 <Kim_patch>  zakim, list participants
20:09:24 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been Kim_patch, JanJaapdeGroot, VJ
20:09:49 <Kim_patch>  zakim, list participants
20:09:49 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been Kim_patch, JanJaapdeGroot, VJ
20:10:10 <Kim_patch>  zakim, make minutes
20:10:10 <Zakim> I don't understand 'make minutes', Kim_patch
20:10:21 <Kim_patch>  rrsagent, make minutes
20:10:21 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/04/11-matf-minutes.html Kim_patch
20:11:35 <Kim_patch> Regrets+ Sukriti
20:11:39 <Kim_patch>  rrsagent, make minutes
20:11:39 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/04/11-matf-minutes.html Kim_patch
20:12:27 <Kim_patch> Regrets+ Sally
20:12:33 <Kim_patch>  rrsagent, make minutes
20:12:33 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/04/11-matf-minutes.html Kim_patch
20:28:45 <Kim_patch> rrsagent, bye
20:28:45 <RRSAgent> I see no action items