IRC log of dxwgdcat on 2022-04-05
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- logging to https://www.w3.org/2022/04/05-dxwgdcat-irc
- 20:48:05 [riccardoAlbertoni]
- RRSAgent, make logs public
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- RRSAgent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/04/05-dxwgdcat-minutes.html riccardoAlbertoni
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- RRSAgent, make logs public
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- meeting: DXWG DCAT subgroup
- 20:48:30 [riccardoAlbertoni]
- zakim, start meeting
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- RRSAgent, make logs Public
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- please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), riccardoAlbertoni
- 20:48:41 [riccardoAlbertoni]
- meeting: DXWG DCAT subgroup
- 20:48:50 [riccardoAlbertoni]
- RRSAgent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/04/05-dxwgdcat-minutes.html riccardoAlbertoni
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- present+
- 21:02:25 [DaveBrowning]
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- 21:03:16 [AndreaPerego]
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- 21:11:46 [riccardoAlbertoni]
- PROPOSED: approve last meeting minutes https://www.w3.org/2022/03/22-dxwgdcat-minutes
- 21:11:47 [DaveBrowning]
- scribe: DaveBrowning
- 21:11:55 [AndreaPerego]
- chair: riccardoAlbertoni
- 21:11:59 [riccardoAlbertoni]
- chair: riccardoAlbertoni
- 21:11:59 [DaveBrowning]
- scribenick: DaveBrowning
- 21:12:01 [AndreaPerego]
- present+
- 21:12:06 [DaveBrowning]
- present+
- 21:12:20 [riccardoAlbertoni]
- PROPOSED: approve last meeting minutes https://www.w3.org/2022/03/22-dxwgdcat-minutes
- 21:12:23 [riccardoAlbertoni]
- +1
- 21:12:32 [AndreaPerego]
- topic: approve last meeting minutes
- 21:12:33 [AndreaPerego]
- +1
- 21:12:34 [DaveBrowning]
- 0 (not there)
- 21:12:46 [riccardoAlbertoni]
- RESOLVED: approve last meeting minutes https://www.w3.org/2022/03/22-dxwgdcat-minutes
- 21:12:58 [AndreaPerego]
- RRSAgent, draft minutes
- 21:12:58 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/04/05-dxwgdcat-minutes.html AndreaPerego
- 21:13:18 [AndreaPerego]
- topic: Pending PRs
- 21:13:23 [AndreaPerego]
- agenda: https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2022.04.05
- 21:13:25 [riccardoAlbertoni]
- https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/pull/1487,
- 21:13:27 [AndreaPerego]
- RRSAgent, draft minutes
- 21:13:27 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/04/05-dxwgdcat-minutes.html AndreaPerego
- 21:14:22 [DaveBrowning]
- riccardoAlbertoni: Some conflict/inconsistencies have come up in this PR
- 21:14:39 [DaveBrowning]
- ...due to multiple PRs active at same time
- 21:15:00 [DaveBrowning]
- ... Not clear what the root of the problem is
- 21:15:20 [riccardoAlbertoni]
- https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/pull/1500
- 21:15:42 [DaveBrowning]
- ... Further work to day has produced a new branch that seems to address the problem
- 21:16:32 [DaveBrowning]
- riccardoAlbertoni: On the substance of the changes, the aim was to harmonize the use of example name spaces
- 21:18:07 [DaveBrowning]
- ... Looks like RDF is now consistent. Fixing the html to save the changes in the main branch is a bit harder. Not sure of Alejandra's plan (did try to contact a couple of days ago)
- 21:19:21 [DaveBrowning]
- ... We could publish now as is and address inconsistencies after publication
- 21:19:28 [AndreaPerego]
- +1 from me.
- 21:20:11 [DaveBrowning]
- ... or try to address the clashes now (and delay publication).
- 21:20:25 [riccardoAlbertoni]
- Q?
- 21:20:25 [DaveBrowning]
- ... or followup with Alejandra
- 21:20:25 [AndreaPerego]
- q+
- 21:20:29 [DaveBrowning]
- q+
- 21:20:40 [riccardoAlbertoni]
- ack AndreaPerego
- 21:21:17 [DaveBrowning]
- AndreaPerego: This shouldn't block publication - if we can address in time then okay, but it isn't urgent
- 21:21:25 [riccardoAlbertoni]
- ack DaveBrowning
- 21:21:49 [AndreaPerego]
- RRSAgent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/04/05-dxwgdcat-minutes.html AndreaPerego
- 21:22:47 [DaveBrowning]
- DaveBrowning: Rather publish and address any tidying up afterword
- 21:25:10 [DaveBrowning]
- riccardoAlbertoni: we should do a resolution...
- 21:25:58 [DaveBrowning]
- proposed: Recommend publication of existing ED as last WD as is
- 21:26:15 [AndreaPerego]
- +1
- 21:26:19 [riccardoAlbertoni]
- +1
- 21:26:28 [DaveBrowning]
- proposed: Recommend publication of existing ED as last WD as is, with some tidying up to be done in parallel to review
- 21:26:40 [AndreaPerego]
- +1
- 21:26:42 [DaveBrowning]
- +
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- +1
- 21:27:39 [DaveBrowning]
- resolved: Recommend publication of existing ED as last WD as is, with some tidying up to be done later
- 21:28:26 [riccardoAlbertoni]
- +1
- 21:28:30 [AndreaPerego]
- +1
- 21:28:34 [DaveBrowning]
- +1
- 21:28:42 [DaveBrowning]
- riccardoAlbertoni: I'll contact Alejandra and also liaise with Peter/Caroline
- 21:28:56 [DaveBrowning]
- resolved: Recommend publication of existing ED as last WD as is, with some tidying up to be done later
- 21:29:01 [AndreaPerego]
- RRSAgent, draft minutes
- 21:29:01 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/04/05-dxwgdcat-minutes.html AndreaPerego
- 21:29:05 [riccardoAlbertoni]
- https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/1322
- 21:31:08 [DaveBrowning]
- AndreaPerego: this originally raised a year ago, but subsequently became more active very recently
- 21:32:59 [DaveBrowning]
- ... Originally we weren't sure if this was a broad requirement but there now seems to be more interest. Not a candidate for the WD, but higher priority after this
- 21:33:06 [riccardoAlbertoni]
- q+
- 21:33:14 [riccardoAlbertoni]
- ack riccardoAlbertoni
- 21:35:03 [DaveBrowning]
- AndreaPerego: Issue raises again the relationship between DCAT and CSVW or DataCube (e.g.)
- 21:35:52 [DaveBrowning]
- ... should DXWG take a position on how we align with other standards (esp W3C ones)
- 21:36:52 [DaveBrowning]
- riccardoAlbertoni: Interesting when we have technical constraints in related standards and how much we help out
- 21:38:35 [DaveBrowning]
- AndreaPerego: Raises some questions whether DCAT datasets and (e.g.) RDF DataCube datasets are the same. Datacube and CSVW quite close to the actual data
- 21:39:05 [DaveBrowning]
- ... Perhaps closer to distributions.... Needs some wider discussion.
- 21:40:44 [DaveBrowning]
- riccardoAlbertoni: Not sure we are in the position where we can say e.g. all RDF DataCube are DCAT distributions...
- 21:42:23 [DaveBrowning]
- AndreaPerego: May be some more natural alignment with dataseries and slices in DataCube but not straightforward
- 21:47:52 [DaveBrowning]
- AndreaPerego: This is difficult to generalise and unclear quite what it would mean in other examples.
- 21:48:13 [DaveBrowning]
- ... It does feel that we should make some clearer statement
- 21:48:27 [DaveBrowning]
- ... but we need to decide what that is
- 21:49:30 [DaveBrowning]
- riccardoAlbertoni: Agreed. It is difficult to separate the metadata from data in a general way....
- 21:49:51 [riccardoAlbertoni]
- q?
- 21:50:03 [AndreaPerego]
- RRSAgent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/04/05-dxwgdcat-minutes.html AndreaPerego
- 21:50:20 [DaveBrowning]
- riccardoAlbertoni: Enough for tonight
- 21:50:21 [DaveBrowning]
- +2
- 21:51:08 [AndreaPerego]
- RRSAgent, draft minutes
- 21:51:08 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/04/05-dxwgdcat-minutes.html AndreaPerego
- 21:51:09 [DaveBrowning]
- +2