IRC log of dxwgdcat on 2022-04-05

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meeting: DXWG DCAT subgroup
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zakim, start meeting
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meeting: DXWG DCAT subgroup
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present+
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21:11:46 [riccardoAlbertoni]
PROPOSED: approve last meeting minutes https://www.w3.org/2022/03/22-dxwgdcat-minutes
21:11:47 [DaveBrowning]
scribe: DaveBrowning
21:11:55 [AndreaPerego]
chair: riccardoAlbertoni
21:11:59 [riccardoAlbertoni]
chair: riccardoAlbertoni
21:11:59 [DaveBrowning]
scribenick: DaveBrowning
21:12:01 [AndreaPerego]
present+
21:12:06 [DaveBrowning]
present+
21:12:20 [riccardoAlbertoni]
PROPOSED: approve last meeting minutes https://www.w3.org/2022/03/22-dxwgdcat-minutes
21:12:23 [riccardoAlbertoni]
+1
21:12:32 [AndreaPerego]
topic: approve last meeting minutes
21:12:33 [AndreaPerego]
+1
21:12:34 [DaveBrowning]
0 (not there)
21:12:46 [riccardoAlbertoni]
RESOLVED: approve last meeting minutes https://www.w3.org/2022/03/22-dxwgdcat-minutes
21:12:58 [AndreaPerego]
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21:13:18 [AndreaPerego]
topic: Pending PRs
21:13:23 [AndreaPerego]
agenda: https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2022.04.05
21:13:25 [riccardoAlbertoni]
https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/pull/1487,
21:13:27 [AndreaPerego]
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21:14:22 [DaveBrowning]
riccardoAlbertoni: Some conflict/inconsistencies have come up in this PR
21:14:39 [DaveBrowning]
...due to multiple PRs active at same time
21:15:00 [DaveBrowning]
... Not clear what the root of the problem is
21:15:20 [riccardoAlbertoni]
https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/pull/1500
21:15:42 [DaveBrowning]
... Further work to day has produced a new branch that seems to address the problem
21:16:32 [DaveBrowning]
riccardoAlbertoni: On the substance of the changes, the aim was to harmonize the use of example name spaces
21:18:07 [DaveBrowning]
... Looks like RDF is now consistent. Fixing the html to save the changes in the main branch is a bit harder. Not sure of Alejandra's plan (did try to contact a couple of days ago)
21:19:21 [DaveBrowning]
... We could publish now as is and address inconsistencies after publication
21:19:28 [AndreaPerego]
+1 from me.
21:20:11 [DaveBrowning]
... or try to address the clashes now (and delay publication).
21:20:25 [riccardoAlbertoni]
Q?
21:20:25 [DaveBrowning]
... or followup with Alejandra
21:20:25 [AndreaPerego]
q+
21:20:29 [DaveBrowning]
q+
21:20:40 [riccardoAlbertoni]
ack AndreaPerego
21:21:17 [DaveBrowning]
AndreaPerego: This shouldn't block publication - if we can address in time then okay, but it isn't urgent
21:21:25 [riccardoAlbertoni]
ack DaveBrowning
21:21:49 [AndreaPerego]
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21:22:47 [DaveBrowning]
DaveBrowning: Rather publish and address any tidying up afterword
21:25:10 [DaveBrowning]
riccardoAlbertoni: we should do a resolution...
21:25:58 [DaveBrowning]
proposed: Recommend publication of existing ED as last WD as is
21:26:15 [AndreaPerego]
+1
21:26:19 [riccardoAlbertoni]
+1
21:26:28 [DaveBrowning]
proposed: Recommend publication of existing ED as last WD as is, with some tidying up to be done in parallel to review
21:26:40 [AndreaPerego]
+1
21:26:42 [DaveBrowning]
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21:26:43 [DaveBrowning]
+1
21:27:39 [DaveBrowning]
resolved: Recommend publication of existing ED as last WD as is, with some tidying up to be done later
21:28:26 [riccardoAlbertoni]
+1
21:28:30 [AndreaPerego]
+1
21:28:34 [DaveBrowning]
+1
21:28:42 [DaveBrowning]
riccardoAlbertoni: I'll contact Alejandra and also liaise with Peter/Caroline
21:28:56 [DaveBrowning]
resolved: Recommend publication of existing ED as last WD as is, with some tidying up to be done later
21:29:01 [AndreaPerego]
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21:29:05 [riccardoAlbertoni]
https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/1322
21:31:08 [DaveBrowning]
AndreaPerego: this originally raised a year ago, but subsequently became more active very recently
21:32:59 [DaveBrowning]
... Originally we weren't sure if this was a broad requirement but there now seems to be more interest. Not a candidate for the WD, but higher priority after this
21:33:06 [riccardoAlbertoni]
q+
21:33:14 [riccardoAlbertoni]
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21:35:03 [DaveBrowning]
AndreaPerego: Issue raises again the relationship between DCAT and CSVW or DataCube (e.g.)
21:35:52 [DaveBrowning]
... should DXWG take a position on how we align with other standards (esp W3C ones)
21:36:52 [DaveBrowning]
riccardoAlbertoni: Interesting when we have technical constraints in related standards and how much we help out
21:38:35 [DaveBrowning]
AndreaPerego: Raises some questions whether DCAT datasets and (e.g.) RDF DataCube datasets are the same. Datacube and CSVW quite close to the actual data
21:39:05 [DaveBrowning]
... Perhaps closer to distributions.... Needs some wider discussion.
21:40:44 [DaveBrowning]
riccardoAlbertoni: Not sure we are in the position where we can say e.g. all RDF DataCube are DCAT distributions...
21:42:23 [DaveBrowning]
AndreaPerego: May be some more natural alignment with dataseries and slices in DataCube but not straightforward
21:47:52 [DaveBrowning]
AndreaPerego: This is difficult to generalise and unclear quite what it would mean in other examples.
21:48:13 [DaveBrowning]
... It does feel that we should make some clearer statement
21:48:27 [DaveBrowning]
... but we need to decide what that is
21:49:30 [DaveBrowning]
riccardoAlbertoni: Agreed. It is difficult to separate the metadata from data in a general way....
21:49:51 [riccardoAlbertoni]
q?
21:50:03 [AndreaPerego]
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21:50:20 [DaveBrowning]
riccardoAlbertoni: Enough for tonight
21:50:21 [DaveBrowning]
+2
21:51:08 [AndreaPerego]
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21:51:09 [DaveBrowning]
+2