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12:03:12 <xfq> present+ qing, xfq, zitao, tengyuan, Xiangyang_Yao, martin, Xiaoping_Zhao, Changrong_Ju
12:03:49 <xfq> zitao: lifecycle
12:04:26 <xfq> qing: propose that we merge https://github.com/w3c/miniapp-lifecycle/pull/21
12:04:33 <xfq> ... any objections?
12:04:43 <xfq> zitao: +1 to merge
12:04:48 <xfq> scribe: xfq
12:04:51 <xfq> chair: zitao
12:04:56 <xfq> rrsagent, make log public
12:04:58 <xfq> rrsagent, make minutes
12:04:58 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/03/24-miniapp-minutes.html xfq
12:05:26 <xfq> https://github.com/w3c/miniapp-lifecycle/pull/19
12:05:30 <xfq> qing: not urgent
12:05:37 <xfq> ... we can keep it for another month
12:05:38 <xiaoqian> present+
12:06:01 <xfq> ... I just added some privacy considerations
12:06:14 <xfq> zitao: i agree privacy is important
12:06:19 <xfq> ... not just lifecycle
12:06:25 <xfq> ... also for other WG documents
12:06:59 <xfq> https://github.com/w3c/miniapp-lifecycle/pull/20
12:07:11 <xfq> qing: we haven't talked to mobile a11y tf
12:07:26 <xfq> https://github.com/w3c/miniapp-lifecycle/issues/22
12:08:17 <xfq> qing: define a unified interface between miniapp and native
12:08:27 <xfq> ... i want to hear your opinions
12:08:51 <xfq> zitao: i reviewed this issue
12:08:58 <xfq> ... I think it makes sense
12:09:36 <xfq> ... if some developer develops a miniapp but does not have a standardized lifecycle
12:09:52 <xfq> ... it's not good for wide deployment of miniapp standards
12:10:43 <xfq> ... I also want to hear the comments from people who are familiar with existing Web technologies
12:11:02 <xfq> qing: miniapp is not just for "super apps", it's also for operating systems
12:11:47 <xfq> ... I'm not sure this unified interface is for miniapp developers or miniapp vendors
12:12:35 <xfq> zitao: yeah, we need to further discuss this
12:12:43 <xfq> qing: I will further keep this open
12:13:12 <xfq> zitao: manifest
12:13:52 <xfq> martin: no new PRs
12:14:11 <xfq> ... if there's no objection I think we can merge https://github.com/w3c/miniapp-manifest/pull/40
12:14:33 <xfq> q?
12:14:47 <xfq> martin: next is https://github.com/w3c/miniapp-manifest/pull/41
12:14:57 <xfq> ... xfq added a comment
12:15:02 <xfq> ... I made some changes
12:15:39 <xfq> ... unless you have objections I think we can merge this PR
12:16:10 <xfq> [silence]
12:16:23 <xfq> martin: we can keep iterate these sections
12:18:09 <xfq> https://github.com/w3c/miniapp-manifest/issues/43
12:18:13 <xfq> martin: i think it's important
12:18:47 <xfq> ... it's something we can explore
12:19:35 <xfq> ... imo we can do it
12:19:52 <xfq> zitao: i think this comment makes sense
12:20:02 <xfq> ... since our goal is to harmonize with PWA
12:20:18 <xfq> ... we can also solicit comments from miniapp vendors
12:20:23 <xfq> ... to see if they agree
12:20:38 <xfq> martin: if there's no objection we can explore this
12:22:04 <xfq> zitao: packaging
12:22:06 <xfq> martin: https://github.com/w3c/miniapp-packaging/pull/45
12:22:10 <xfq> ... editorial changes
12:22:14 <xfq> ... approved by xfq
12:22:31 <xfq> ... unless there are objections we can merge it
12:22:40 <xfq> https://github.com/w3c/miniapp-packaging/pull/47
12:22:55 <xfq> martin: comments from xfq
12:23:04 <xfq> ... I made the changes
12:23:55 <xfq> ... unless there are objections we can merge it
12:24:37 <xfq> https://github.com/w3c/miniapp-packaging/issues/51
12:24:42 <xfq> martin: I assigned it to me
12:24:49 <xfq> ... will propose a new PR
12:26:12 <xfq> zitao: addressing
12:26:20 <xfq> dan: it's a note now
12:26:27 <xfq> ... we need more public review
12:27:59 <xfq> xfq: @@
12:28:05 <xfq> zitao: languages @@
12:31:38 <xfq> xfq: we should either add content or remove the ack section
12:32:09 <xfq> ... @@
12:33:05 <xfq> zitao: white paper
12:33:15 <xfq> martin: i added some text
12:33:44 <xfq> ... will add some input
12:33:57 <xfq> ... but we'd better do it when it's in html
12:34:12 <xfq> zitao: the image looks better now
12:35:54 <xfq> ... i added a Implementation, converting tool section
12:36:31 <xfq> ... xfq, do you think it's ready to be converted to html?
12:36:34 <xfq> xfq: i think so
12:36:56 <xfq> zitao: tpac
12:37:07 <xfq> ... we also discussed this in the CG meeting
12:37:59 <xfq> ... i hope we can find a place in China to have an offline meeting
12:38:17 <xfq> qing: the deadline of the tpac survey is soon
12:38:21 <xfq> ... we need to decide
12:38:46 <xfq> ... before next week
12:39:17 <xfq> ... i think we're unlikely to go to Vancouver
12:39:20 <xfq> ... do you agree?
12:39:24 <xfq> zitao: i agree
12:40:22 <xfq> qing: any other comments?
12:40:34 <xfq> zitao: agree with qing's comments
12:41:08 <xfq> qing: if there's no objections i'll fill in the form on behalf of the WG
12:42:33 <xiaoqian> xfq: we need to find a way to test the implementation of our specs
12:42:52 <xiaoqian> zitao: agree with xfq, we need to make a plan
12:43:01 <xiaoqian> xfq: I'll file an issue later
12:43:06 <xfq> scribe+ xiaoqian
12:43:20 <xiaoqian> zitao: yes, that will help us move forward
12:43:25 <martin> +1 to test suite discussion
12:43:50 <xfq> canfeng: i wonder if there's any examples from other WGs for testing
12:45:14 <xiaoqian> xfq: yes, the WPT project
12:45:26 <xiaoqian> canfeng: who maintains this project?
12:45:35 <xiaoqian> xfq: browser vendors, the W3C members
12:47:42 <xfq> xiaoqian: xfq can give a 5-10 min talk to introduce wpt next month
12:48:14 <xfq> zitao: next meeting, Apr 28
12:48:15 <martin> +1 Apr 28
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