10:59:14 RRSAgent has joined #wot-arch 10:59:14 logging to https://www.w3.org/2022/03/10-wot-arch-irc 11:02:46 Meeting: WoT Architecture 11:03:13 ktoumura has joined #wot-arch 11:03:57 mlagally_ has joined #wot-arch 11:03:57 chair: Lagally 11:04:15 present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_Lagally 11:05:25 Mizushima has joined #wot-arch 11:06:58 present+ Tomoaki_Mizushima 11:07:10 agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/WG_WoT_Architecture_WebConf#Architecture_March_10th.2C_2022 11:07:15 topic: Agenda 11:07:23 ml: (goes through the agenda) 11:07:31 i|go|-> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/WG_WoT_Architecture_WebConf#Architecture_March_10th.2C_2022 Agenda for today| 11:07:40 ... anything else? 11:07:42 (none) 11:07:45 topic: Minutes 11:07:57 -> https://www.w3.org/2022/03/03-wot-arch-minutes.html Mar-3 11:08:09 ml: (goes through the minutes) 11:11:00 approved 11:11:58 topic: Testing / Implementation report 11:12:29 present+ Ryuichi_Matsukura 11:12:41 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/tree/main/testing Architecture repo - Testing area 11:13:03 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/pull/707 PR 707 - Draft Implementation Report 11:13:14 ml: (shows the content of the PR) 11:13:26 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/pull/707/files Files changed 11:16:54 ... README.md, assertion.csv, atrisk.cs, atrisk.csv, categories.csv, depends.cs, extra-asserts.html, imple.csv, SmartThings.hmtl, ercim.html, fujitsu.html, huawei.html, oracle.html, panasonic.html, hitachi.csv 11:16:56 q+ 11:18:00 s/hitachi.csv/hitachi.csv, .../ 11:18:27 ml: wondering if all the contents are up-to-date 11:18:45 kaz: the contents from each contributor should be reviewed by the original submitter 11:19:03 ml: or once merge this PR and ask people to review the contents 11:19:39 https://cdn.statically.io/gh/w3c/wot-architecture/aeae0b90e29a01aae6500e63785c3b6c0f86eab5/testing/inputs/templates/report.html 11:19:42 s/https/-> https/ 11:20:00 s/html/html rendered HTML by statically/ 11:21:53 ml: hesitant to merge this now 11:22:00 kaz: don't need to merge this today 11:22:13 ... the checklist on the PR itself is not completed 11:22:34 ... probably this is a template and directory structure proposal for further updates at the moment 11:22:41 ml: ok. let's wait then 11:22:52 topic: PR 704 11:23:13 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/pull/704 PR 704 - restructuring lifecycle section 11:23:21 ml: (shows the preview) 11:23:28 ... should be OK to merge this 11:23:39 (but got some conflicts) 11:23:49 ml: (fix the conflicts) 11:25:15 regrets+ Sebastian 11:25:40 s/ml: (fix the conflicts)// 11:25:46 topic: PR 717 11:26:11 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/pull/717 PR 717 - Terminology diagram 11:26:23 ml: tx for your contribution, Toumura-san! 11:26:26 ... would merge this 11:26:29 (merged) 11:27:09 topic: PR 696 11:27:26 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/pull/696 PR 696 - New section on "virtual things", clarifying terminology 11:27:51 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues/682 related Issue 682 - clarify virtual thing 11:27:56 ml: would merge this PR 11:29:17 s/ml: would merge this PR/ml: would avoid confusion/ 11:29:21 (closed) 11:29:39 topic: PR 603 11:30:03 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/pull/603 PR 603 - WIP: Define and Discuss "Hubs" 11:30:18 ml: (goes through the proposed changes) 11:30:29 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/pull/603/files Files changed 11:31:22 -> https://pr-preview.s3.amazonaws.com/w3c/wot-architecture/603/af1a8df...mmccool:432a5cd.html#terminology diff - 3. Terminology 11:31:39 ml: would not be harmful to merge this 11:32:32 kaz: maybe you can ask McCool if it's OK to merge this just to make sure? 11:32:44 ml: ok 11:32:45 q? 11:32:48 ack k 11:32:59 q+ 11:33:24 ack k 11:33:56 ... (adds a comment about that) 11:34:28 kaz: btw, we should check the Editors list at the beginning of the draft and make it up-to-date 11:34:36 ml: (creates an issue about that) 11:36:51 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues/719 Issue 719 - Update list of editors to reflect current WoT members 11:37:02 ml: who will take the edit for Issue 719? 11:37:09 tou: will do 11:37:31 topic: Issue 716 11:37:43 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues/716 Issue 716 - change "Thing directory" to "Thing description directory" 11:37:51 ml: this is editorial 11:37:58 ... (adds "editorial" label) 11:38:52 q+ 11:39:50 kaz: btw, just to make sure, "Thing description directory" should be "Thing Description directory" 11:40:20 ... meaning "D" at the beginning of "Directory" should be a capital letter 11:40:23 ml: yes 11:40:36 tou: will take this too 11:40:48 ml: tx! 11:41:11 topic: Issue 715 11:41:15 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues/715 Issue 715 11:41:58 s/Issue 715/Issue 715 - Verify note on TD Fragment 11:42:11 ml: what is the current status? 11:42:17 kaz: we should check it again 11:42:35 ml: (see the repos of wot-scripting-api first) 11:42:43 ... don't find any information there 11:43:17 ... need to check 11:43:43 topic: Issue 714 11:43:56 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues/714 Issue 714 - Outdated note on partial TD ? 11:44:58 -> https://w3c.github.io/wot-architecture/#terminology 3. Terminology (for "Partial TD") 11:45:16 ml: there is still an Editors Note about "Partial TD" 11:45:23 ... to be removed 11:47:11 -> https://w3c.github.io/wot-scripting-api/#terminology-and-conventions Scripting API - 4. Terminology and conventions 11:47:28 ml: Scripting API refers to Architecture for "Partial TD" too 11:47:34 preset+ Ege_Korkan 11:47:38 Ege has joined #wot-arch 11:47:46 I have audio problems, I will rejoin 11:48:01 s/I have audio problems, I will rejoin// 11:50:52 https://w3c.github.io/wot-scripting-api/#the-produce-method 11:50:52 ... would remove the Editor's note for "Partial TD" 11:51:08 s|https://w3c.github.io/wot-scripting-api/#the-produce-method|| 11:52:13 -> https://w3c.github.io/wot-scripting-api/#the-produce-method Scripting API - 6.2 The produce() method 11:52:36 ek: Scripting API mentions "Partial TD" at section 6.2 11:52:57 ml: Ege, you proposed to remove the Editor's note 11:53:18 [[ 11:53:19 NOTE 11:53:19 An example usage of a Partial TD is in WoT Scripting API as an input for the creation of Exposed Things. See the produce method for more details. 11:53:22 ]] 11:54:18 q+ 11:54:50 ack k 11:55:55 kaz: Ege, what was your actual intention? 11:56:28 ... 1. keep the Editor's note and update the URL for Scripting API, e.g., using the Edtor's Draft URL 11:56:54 ... 2. make the Editor's note an official text of the "Partial TD" and then maintain the URL? 11:57:11 ... 3. as Lagally mentioned, simply remove the Editor's note 11:57:20 ek: would go for the 2nd option 11:58:10 ml: the link in the note is wrong and points to the published version which doesn't mention "Partial TD" 11:59:00 kaz: in that case, what would be the conclusion? 11:59:09 ml: we should remove the Editor's note 11:59:13 kaz: ok 11:59:28 ml: will mention that explicitly within the comment for Issue 714 11:59:35 (adds another comment about that) 11:59:49 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues/714#issuecomment-1063979500 Lagally's comment 12:00:09 [adjourned] 12:00:14 rrsagent, make log public 12:00:19 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:00:19 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/03/10-wot-arch-minutes.html kaz 12:00:54 i/adjourned/ml: please think about which Issue you could take if you're one of the Editors :)/ 12:00:56 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:00:56 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/03/10-wot-arch-minutes.html kaz 14:26:54 Zakim has left #wot-arch 14:30:53 kaz has joined #wot-arch 14:37:16 kaz has joined #wot-arch