IRC log of immersive-web on 2022-03-08
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- present+
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- scribe: Leonard
- 20:06:52 [ada]
- present+
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- 20:08:16 [ada]
- It looks like /facetoface
- 20:08:34 [Leonard]
- AyseguL: F2F in San Francisco on April 21-22 - https://github.com/immersive-web/administrivia/issues/177
- 20:08:39 [ada]
- q+ to mention t he community meetup
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- 20:09:29 [Leonard]
- ... attendance is limited, so please RSVP early if you are attending
- 20:09:59 [yonet]
- ack ada
- 20:09:59 [Zakim]
- ada, you wanted to mention t he community meetup
- 20:10:00 [Leonard]
- Ada: Developer meetup about the same time. Looking for a venue (outside)
- 20:10:52 [Leonard]
- Yonet: Location is Reactor. Will provide online connection too.
- 20:10:53 [yonet]
- agendum: https://github.com/immersive-web/administrivia/issues/177
- 20:12:05 [yonet]
- agendum: https://github.com/immersive-web/webxr-hand-input/issues/29
- 20:12:26 [Leonard]
- https://github.com/immersive-web/webxr-hand-input/issues/29
- 20:12:29 [atsushi]
- i|It looks like /facetoface|topic: face-to-face meeting/
- 20:13:09 [atsushi]
- s|agendum: https://github.com/immersive-web/administrivia/issues/177|f2f">https://github.com/immersive-web/administrivia/issues/177|f2f topics at https://github.com/immersive-web/administrivia/issues/177|
- 20:13:18 [atsushi]
- s/agendum: /topic: /
- 20:13:19 [ada]
- q-
- 20:13:19 [Leonard]
- Rik: Browser will only provide hands. Will OpenXR provide joint info? Are there alignment problems ?
- 20:13:27 [atsushi]
- rrsagent, make log public
- 20:13:32 [atsushi]
- rrsagent, publish minutes
- 20:13:32 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/03/08-immersive-web-minutes.html atsushi
- 20:13:34 [bajones]
- q+
- 20:13:49 [atsushi]
- meeting: IWWG call 2022/March/08
- 20:13:57 [Leonard]
- Lachlan: Low res joint-less hands for Mixed Reality.
- 20:14:05 [ada]
- q+ to ask about pose detection
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- 20:14:32 [ada]
- ack bajones
- 20:14:35 [Nick-8thWall]
- q+
- 20:14:36 [Leonard]
- Alex: Generic hand select uses OpenXR
- 20:14:39 [atsushi]
- agenda: https://github.com/immersive-web/administrivia/blob/main/meetings/wg/2022-03-08-Immersive_Web_Working_Group_Teleconference-agenda.md
- 20:15:06 [atsushi]
- rrsagent, publish minutes
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/03/08-immersive-web-minutes.html atsushi
- 20:15:42 [ada]
- ack ada
- 20:15:42 [Zakim]
- ada, you wanted to ask about pose detection
- 20:15:43 [Leonard]
- Brandon: Alex & Lachlan answered question. Everything seems acceptable.
- 20:16:06 [yonet]
- Face to face meeting on April 21-22nd, San Francisco: https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/49c83780-eb0d-4d0a-a619-4d8f0637f7dd
- 20:16:17 [Leonard]
- Ada: Does it have a "squeeze"?
- 20:18:05 [ada]
- q?
- 20:18:08 [Leonard]
- Lachlan: Depends on target mapping.
- 20:18:09 [ada]
- ack Nick-8thWall
- 20:18:27 [alexturn]
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- 20:18:56 [Leonard]
- Nick: Q to Rik: When does this (OpenXR) happen?
- 20:19:00 [alexturn]
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- 20:19:09 [Leonard]
- Rik: Need to change settings to enable OpenXR.
- 20:19:47 [bajones]
- q+
- 20:19:54 [ada]
- ack bajones
- 20:20:08 [alexturn]
- q+ to ask if enabling hand tracking would cause you to not enumerate an XRInputSource for hands
- 20:20:13 [Leonard]
- Brandon: Does it handle hand-off between controllers & hands?
- 20:20:14 [Leonard]
- Rik: Yes
- 20:20:36 [Leonard]
- Brandon: Any known issues (feature regressions) in the OpenXR path?
- 20:20:58 [Leonard]
- Rik: Some lingering (fatal) bugs. Current release is pretty stable
- 20:21:45 [ada]
- q?
- 20:21:50 [ada]
- ack alexturn
- 20:21:50 [Zakim]
- alexturn, you wanted to ask if enabling hand tracking would cause you to not enumerate an XRInputSource for hands
- 20:22:19 [Leonard]
- Alex: If hand tracking is enabled, does the user get hands + joints or just one.
- 20:22:32 [Leonard]
- Rik: Joints are extra data to go with hands
- 20:22:50 [ada]
- q?
- 20:24:05 [Leonard]
- Rik: Confirmed Aysegul will do testing.
- 20:24:09 [Leonard]
- Yonet: Agrees
- 20:24:20 [atsushi]
- topic: webxr-hand-input#112 add flag to relay validity of target ray space requested by cabanier
- 20:24:22 [Leonard]
- https://github.com/immersive-web/webxr-hand-input/issues/112
- 20:24:23 [atsushi]
- rrsagent, publish minutes
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/03/08-immersive-web-minutes.html atsushi
- 20:25:15 [ada]
- q+ to ask about why since no system action happens
- 20:25:18 [Leonard]
- Rik: Previously discussed. Suggest postponement. This happens when the hands are "palms-up", which indicates a system gesture.
- 20:25:35 [ada]
- ack ada
- 20:25:35 [Zakim]
- ada, you wanted to ask about why since no system action happens
- 20:27:13 [alexturn]
- q+ to talk about still giving out target rays but capturing select
- 20:27:25 [Leonard]
- Ada: Discussion with Rik to determine about an unusual feature. Determined that it was a bug. Details to be provided.
- 20:27:27 [ada]
- ack alexturn
- 20:27:27 [Zakim]
- alexturn, you wanted to talk about still giving out target rays but capturing select
- 20:28:38 [Leonard]
- Alex: Expose the target ray, but with a flag indicating that it was a system gesture.
- 20:28:44 [ada]
- q?
- 20:29:16 [Leonard]
- Rik: Oculus does not pass out system gestures.
- 20:30:10 [Leonard]
- Rik: Confirmed information for #112
- 20:30:19 [Leonard]
- Ada: Recap of F2F in SF.
- 20:30:34 [Leonard]
- https://github.com/immersive-web/administrivia/issues/177
- 20:31:06 [Leonard]
- ... Apr 21-22 (Th/Fr -- Earth Day!) Remote access will be provided
- 20:31:21 [yonet]
- q?
- 20:31:25 [yonet]
- q+
- 20:31:35 [Leonard]
- Use /FaceToFace to put something on the discussion list
- 20:31:59 [cabanier]
- q+
- 20:32:05 [atsushi]
- i|Ada: Recap of F2F in SF.|topic: administrivia#177 Face 2 face meeting in April in San Francisco
- 20:32:07 [Leonard]
- ... Add the reason to the tag so there is some understanding. See example in issue #177
- 20:32:07 [ada]
- ack yonet
- 20:32:32 [Leonard]
- Yonet & Ada: Tag needs to at the beginning of a line
- 20:32:56 [ada]
- ack cabanier
- 20:32:58 [Leonard]
- ... If it doesn't work, ping a Chair or Editor
- 20:33:10 [Leonard]
- Rik: Looking for signup page
- 20:33:19 [Leonard]
- Ada: Not yet, will make form for distribution
- 20:33:42 [Leonard]
- Yonet: All attendees must register before hand (Reactor's request)
- 20:34:00 [Leonard]
- ... Currently no testing requirements for entrance
- 20:34:28 [ada]
- q?
- 20:35:05 [Leonard]
- Nick: (to Ada) Maybe interest in WebXR Developer Meetup support from 8th Wall
- 20:35:29 [Leonard]
- Yonet: Requests inclusion for timezone purposes
- 20:40:59 [atsushi]
- rrsagent, publish minutes
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