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20:06:16 <cwilso> present+
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20:06:46 <yonet> scribe: Leonard
20:06:52 <ada> present+
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20:08:16 <ada> It looks like /facetoface
20:08:34 <Leonard> AyseguL: F2F in San Francisco on April 21-22 - https://github.com/immersive-web/administrivia/issues/177
20:08:39 <ada> q+ to mention t he community meetup
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20:09:29 <Leonard> ... attendance is limited, so please RSVP early if you are attending
20:09:59 <yonet> ack ada
20:09:59 <Zakim> ada, you wanted to mention t he community meetup
20:10:00 <Leonard> Ada: Developer meetup about the same time. Looking for a venue (outside)
20:10:52 <Leonard> Yonet: Location is Reactor. Will provide online connection too.
20:10:53 <yonet> agendum: https://github.com/immersive-web/administrivia/issues/177
20:12:05 <yonet> agendum: https://github.com/immersive-web/webxr-hand-input/issues/29
20:12:26 <Leonard> https://github.com/immersive-web/webxr-hand-input/issues/29
20:12:29 <atsushi> i|It looks like /facetoface|topic: face-to-face meeting/
20:13:09 <atsushi> s|agendum: https://github.com/immersive-web/administrivia/issues/177|f2f topics at https://github.com/immersive-web/administrivia/issues/177|
20:13:18 <atsushi> s/agendum: /topic: /
20:13:19 <ada> q-
20:13:19 <Leonard> Rik: Browser will only provide hands. Will OpenXR provide joint info? Are there alignment problems ?
20:13:27 <atsushi> rrsagent, make log public
20:13:32 <atsushi> rrsagent, publish minutes
20:13:32 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/03/08-immersive-web-minutes.html atsushi
20:13:34 <bajones> q+
20:13:49 <atsushi> meeting: IWWG call 2022/March/08
20:13:57 <Leonard> Lachlan: Low res joint-less hands for Mixed Reality.
20:14:05 <ada> q+ to ask about pose detection
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20:14:32 <ada> ack bajones
20:14:35 <Nick-8thWall> q+
20:14:36 <Leonard> Alex: Generic hand select uses OpenXR
20:14:39 <atsushi> agenda: https://github.com/immersive-web/administrivia/blob/main/meetings/wg/2022-03-08-Immersive_Web_Working_Group_Teleconference-agenda.md
20:15:06 <atsushi> rrsagent, publish minutes
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20:15:42 <ada> ack ada
20:15:42 <Zakim> ada, you wanted to ask about pose detection
20:15:43 <Leonard> Brandon: Alex & Lachlan answered question. Everything seems acceptable.
20:16:06 <yonet> Face to face meeting on April 21-22nd, San Francisco: https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/49c83780-eb0d-4d0a-a619-4d8f0637f7dd
20:16:17 <Leonard> Ada: Does it have a "squeeze"?
20:18:05 <ada> q?
20:18:08 <Leonard> Lachlan: Depends on target mapping.
20:18:09 <ada> ack Nick-8thWall
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20:18:56 <Leonard> Nick: Q to Rik: When does this (OpenXR) happen?
20:19:00 <alexturn> present+
20:19:09 <Leonard> Rik: Need to change settings to enable OpenXR.
20:19:47 <bajones> q+
20:19:54 <ada> ack bajones
20:20:08 <alexturn> q+ to ask if enabling hand tracking would cause you to not enumerate an XRInputSource for hands
20:20:13 <Leonard> Brandon: Does it handle hand-off between controllers & hands?
20:20:14 <Leonard> Rik: Yes
20:20:36 <Leonard> Brandon: Any known issues (feature regressions) in the OpenXR path?
20:20:58 <Leonard> Rik: Some lingering (fatal) bugs. Current release is pretty stable
20:21:45 <ada> q?
20:21:50 <ada> ack alexturn
20:21:50 <Zakim> alexturn, you wanted to ask if enabling hand tracking would cause you to not enumerate an XRInputSource for hands
20:22:19 <Leonard> Alex: If hand tracking is enabled, does the user get hands + joints or just one.
20:22:32 <Leonard> Rik: Joints are extra data to go with hands
20:22:50 <ada> q?
20:24:05 <Leonard> Rik: Confirmed Aysegul will do testing.
20:24:09 <Leonard> Yonet: Agrees
20:24:20 <atsushi> topic: webxr-hand-input#112 add flag to relay validity of target ray space requested by cabanier
20:24:22 <Leonard> https://github.com/immersive-web/webxr-hand-input/issues/112
20:24:23 <atsushi> rrsagent, publish minutes
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20:25:15 <ada> q+ to ask about why since no system action happens
20:25:18 <Leonard> Rik: Previously discussed. Suggest postponement. This happens when the hands are "palms-up", which indicates a system gesture.
20:25:35 <ada> ack ada
20:25:35 <Zakim> ada, you wanted to ask about why since no system action happens
20:27:13 <alexturn> q+ to talk about still giving out target rays but capturing select
20:27:25 <Leonard> Ada: Discussion with Rik to determine about an unusual feature. Determined that it was a bug. Details to be provided.
20:27:27 <ada> ack alexturn
20:27:27 <Zakim> alexturn, you wanted to talk about still giving out target rays but capturing select
20:28:38 <Leonard> Alex: Expose the target ray, but with a flag indicating that it was a system gesture.
20:28:44 <ada> q?
20:29:16 <Leonard> Rik: Oculus does not pass out system gestures.
20:30:10 <Leonard> Rik: Confirmed information for #112
20:30:19 <Leonard> Ada: Recap of F2F in SF.
20:30:34 <Leonard> https://github.com/immersive-web/administrivia/issues/177
20:31:06 <Leonard> ... Apr 21-22 (Th/Fr -- Earth Day!) Remote access will be provided
20:31:21 <yonet> q?
20:31:25 <yonet> q+
20:31:35 <Leonard> Use /FaceToFace to put something on the discussion list
20:31:59 <cabanier> q+
20:32:05 <atsushi> i|Ada: Recap of F2F in SF.|topic: administrivia#177 Face 2 face meeting in April in San Francisco
20:32:07 <Leonard> ... Add the reason to the tag so there is some understanding. See example in issue #177
20:32:07 <ada> ack yonet
20:32:32 <Leonard> Yonet & Ada: Tag needs to at the beginning of a line
20:32:56 <ada> ack cabanier
20:32:58 <Leonard> ... If it doesn't work, ping a Chair or Editor
20:33:10 <Leonard> Rik: Looking for signup page
20:33:19 <Leonard> Ada: Not yet, will make form for distribution
20:33:42 <Leonard> Yonet: All attendees must register before hand (Reactor's request)
20:34:00 <Leonard> ... Currently no testing requirements for entrance
20:34:28 <ada> q?
20:35:05 <Leonard> Nick: (to Ada) Maybe interest in WebXR Developer Meetup support from 8th Wall
20:35:29 <Leonard> Yonet: Requests inclusion for timezone purposes
20:40:59 <atsushi> rrsagent, publish minutes
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