16:58:27 RRSAgent has joined #auto 16:58:27 logging to https://www.w3.org/2022/03/08-auto-irc 16:58:29 RRSAgent, make logs Public 16:58:31 Meeting: Automotive Working Group Teleconference 16:58:38 scribenick: ted_ 16:58:41 Scribe: Ted 16:58:44 Chair: Peter, Ted 16:58:45 Present+ Ted 17:02:06 Present+ Carine, Ulf, Erik 17:03:49 Topic: Publications 17:05:24 VSSo - published 17:05:25 https://www.w3.org/TR/2022/WD-vsso-core-20220303/ 17:05:36 https://www.w3.org/TR/2022/WD-vsso-20220303/ 17:06:25 VISSv1 - Discontinued Spec should be done this week 17:06:55 VISSv2 - should be setup with Echidna so on next commit it should go through, haven't tested 17:07:46 Topic: Issues and Pull Requests 17:08:58 https://github.com/w3c/automotive/pull/449 17:09:30 Ulf: I thought we had a sentence stating that sensors were read-only but couldn't find it so I found a place within the data model chapter to include it 17:10:35 Ted: I couldn't find it either and gave up 17:10:46 Ulf: I'm inclined to accept the pull request 17:12:59 https://github.com/w3c/automotive/issues/443 17:14:42 Ulf: handled with the last pull request 17:14:53 Carine: build process failed due to a markup error 17:15:01 (re Echidna) 17:16:52 … only Core was triggered by the commit. if you look at github actions you can see the details of the attempted build 17:16:55 … I'll look into it 17:19:36 Ted: we can send an email of the various checkers so we can verify before commits - markup validator, linkchecker and pubrules if we can get it working on dynamic Respec from github.io 17:20:09 Carine: you can use pubrules on github.io but need to supply parameters for the spec status for instance 17:20:30 https://github.com/w3c/automotive/issues/450 17:21:08 Ulf: we can add a range filter, >=, <=, <, =... and boundary 17:21:34 … a filter is met for instance if signal X > 5 reaches 6 17:23:18 … it is unbounded, no upper bound but if you have two expressions they are logically ANDed together 17:23:55 … what I was thinking about is you might the inverse to a bound range 17:27:05 … my thought was to be able to select AND or OR and my proposal is to add another parameter to this object, boundary-op 17:27:37 … you should only add this parameter when you have two complimentary expressions 17:30:11 Ted: it makes sense, is there a limit to the number of compound statement segments you can have, have speed for instance between 20 and 50 km/h and windshield wipers are on 17:31:13 Ulf: no, haven't but I can see a use case for it 17:32:05 Erik: a filter is mostly focused on a single signal. we have discussed more advanced rules but they come with challenges 17:33:35 … I could subscribe to speed and seatbelt or other individually but only want notification on the combination of filters instead of multitude if either condition met 17:34:45 … we might want to support something like this in the future. you will need your client to have access to all related signals and these filter rules could get quite complex 17:35:06 Ulf: we would have to wait and think this out fully, perhaps wait for VISSv3 17:35:23 … decide how big a step we need to take to support such functionality 17:36:03 … by that convention, we might want to wait on this proposal 17:36:38 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/03/08-auto-minutes.html ted_ 17:37:00 … let's let this wait until next week 17:39:51 Ted: we have concept of mandatory and optional filters, mandatory for what was supported in v1. does that include range and then should this feature be optional 17:40:22 Ulf: good question, yes range was supported 17:45:07 ted_ has joined #auto 17:45:11 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/03/08-auto-minutes.html ted_ 17:45:42 … let's let this wait until next week 17:46:05 Ted: we have concept of mandatory and optional filters, mandatory for what was supported in v1. does that include range and then should this feature be optional 17:46:19 Ulf: good question, yes range was supported in v1 17:46:30 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/03/08-auto-minutes.html ted_ 17:46:36 https://github.com/w3c/automotive/issues/321 17:46:44 Ulf: this is an old one we should settle 17:47:31 Ted: I'll respond to Wonsuk, don't believe we need to maintain a test suite for a discontinued spec and see if he is interested in porting to v2 and helping us there 17:47:33 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/03/08-auto-minutes.html ted_ 17:50:26 leaving. As of this point the attendees have been Ted, Ulf, Peter, Adnan, Carine, Erik, Paul 17:50:26 Zakim has left #auto 17:50:27 I see no action items 17:50:42 RRSAgent has joined #auto 17:50:42 logging to https://www.w3.org/2022/03/08-auto-irc 17:50:52 present- Peter 17:50:55 present- Adnan 17:51:01 present- Paul 17:51:05 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/03/08-auto-minutes.html ted_ 17:51:21 Chair: Ted 17:51:22 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/03/08-auto-minutes.html ted_ 17:51:45 Chair- Peter 17:51:47 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/03/08-auto-minutes.html ted_