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14:52:05 <tzviya> Chair: Tzviya
14:52:10 <tzviya> Meeting: PWe
14:52:14 <tzviya> s/PWe/PWE
14:52:22 <tzviya> Date: 2022-03-01
14:52:44 <tzviya> Agenda+ Housekeeping: clock change
14:52:44 <tzviya> Agenda+ Proposed Training (Wendy) [1]
14:52:44 <tzviya> Agenda+ TPAC Inclusion Fund (Liz) [2]
14:52:44 <tzviya> Agenda+ AOB
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15:02:10 <cwilso> present+
15:02:17 <wendyreid> present+
15:02:20 <tzviya> present+
15:02:59 <tzviya> regrets+ ralph
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15:03:58 <cwilso> scribenick:
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15:04:01 <cwilso> scribenick: cwilso
15:04:12 <Jem> present+ JaeunJemmaKu
15:04:53 <cwilso> Tzviya: housekeeping: timezone changes in the US before next meeting.  We've generally kept this in sync with Europe/US, not UTC.
15:05:11 <Jem> +1 keeping it as it is
15:05:21 <wendyreid> +1
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15:05:22 <Judy> +1 to keeping it as is, conflicts with fewer meetings
15:05:56 <cwilso> ... resolved, keep this meeting at same relative time to US.
15:06:28 <cwilso> Barbara: the Media Entertainment group is this time slot, so if we can stagger that would be good.
15:07:09 <tzviya> zakim, take up next
15:07:09 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Housekeeping: clock change -- taken up [from tzviya]
15:07:12 <cwilso> Tzviya: will see what we can do
15:07:15 <tzviya> zakim, take up next
15:07:15 <Zakim> agendum 1 was just opened, tzviya
15:07:22 <tzviya> zakim, close 1
15:07:22 <Zakim> I don't understand 'close 1', tzviya
15:07:29 <cwilso> ...zakim, close agenda 1
15:07:32 <wseltzer> agenda?
15:07:33 <cwilso> zakim, close agenda 1
15:07:35 <Zakim> agendum 1, Housekeeping: clock change, closed
15:07:35 <Zakim> I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
15:07:36 <Zakim> 2. Proposed Training (Wendy) [from 1 via tzviya]
15:07:37 <Jem> zakim, cloase agenda item1
15:07:37 <Zakim> I don't understand 'cloase agenda item1', Jem
15:07:40 <cwilso> zakim, take up agenda 2
15:07:40 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- Proposed Training (Wendy) -- taken up [from 1 via tzviya]
15:07:57 <cwilso> tzviya: wendy is looking for a little more feedback on this:
15:08:07 <tzviya> https://rak.app.box.com/s/mh0orlvf7ljv7h49g79ahzfil0y9zu3r
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15:09:24 <cwilso> wendy: this is the outline; made some changes based on last meeting's feedback.  Logistically: less than two hours.  Instructive+collaborative.
15:09:50 <cwilso> ...will do a recording of the instructive section, followed by live collaborative
15:10:13 <cwilso> ...no minuting of collab/Q&A sections (may cover those topics in future sessions)
15:10:55 <cwilso> ...topics to cover: effective meeting facilitation, tipcs and tricks, CEPC, managing conflict, fostering discussion
15:12:44 <cwilso> ... open discussion of techniques for handling heated discussions, etc.
15:13:02 <tzviya> q+ to add coaching techniques
15:13:15 <tzviya> ack me
15:13:15 <Zakim> tzviya, you wanted to add coaching techniques
15:13:49 <cwilso> tzviya: this is really good, would it be good to add some coaching techniques?  (e.g. saying "why")
15:14:23 <cwilso> ... any other thoughts?
15:15:12 <cwilso> Jemma: love this.  Does this cover CG chairs as well as WG chairs?  Does it include hands-on work/instruction?
15:15:52 <BarbH> Media and Entertainment IC is 21 March 2022 at 16:00 UTC.  If we can avoid conflict?
15:16:00 <cwilso> wendy: I'll see if I can add that - hands-on discussion.
15:16:23 <BarbH> +Q
15:16:38 <tzviya> s/Media and Entertainment IC is 21 March 2022 at 16:00 UTC.  If we can avoid conflict?//
15:16:49 <Jem> may be case study discussion?
15:16:54 <sheila> q+
15:16:57 <tzviya> ack bar
15:17:02 <annette_g> q+
15:18:03 <cwilso> barb: agenda is great.  I'd like to see some stronger "inclusion and diversity is valued at W3C" messaging.  We're not always crisp and clear about that.  Is there a simple way to add that?
15:18:48 <cwilso> barb: yes.  I haven't written the actual modules yet.  This should be explicit, too.
15:18:49 <tzviya> ack sheila
15:19:49 <sheila> http://www.dismantlingracism.org/uploads/4/3/5/7/43579015/okun_-_white_sup_culture.pdf
15:20:02 <cwilso> sheila: love the agenda.  I've been working on inserting antidotes to white supremacy culture.
15:20:24 <cwilso> wendy: love it, will find a way to include.
15:20:54 <cwilso> tzviya: this is a great reference
15:20:54 <Jem> I also love that it uses difference approach such as instructional,  collaborative and so on.
15:20:54 <wseltzer> +1 great resource
15:21:05 <tzviya> ack annette_g
15:21:23 <cwilso> annette: question and a comment.  Is this meant to augment or replace the existing chairs training.
15:22:46 <cwilso> judy: the past chairs trainings have usually been run by PLH.  There was one we started on the CEPC, with a plan to run several and record it.  There was a meeting of PWE quite a few months ago where I re-raised that and was told we needed something fresh, so we've dropped that past training.
15:23:44 <cwilso> tzviya: this is a first step at replacing this.
15:23:50 <Jem> +100
15:23:55 <tzviya> q?
15:24:39 <cwilso> annette: this reads like a really nice presentation.  What I'm missing is the detail of "how do you start up Zakim," , setting agenda in advance, etc.
15:24:47 <cwilso> q+
15:24:50 <Jem> q+
15:25:23 <cwilso> ...we should be clear about what we're proposing here.
15:25:39 <tzviya> ack cw
15:25:53 <wseltzer> scribe+
15:25:54 <cwilso> https://github.com/immersive-web/administrivia/blob/main/IRC.md
15:26:04 <wseltzer> cwilso: I put together some details for the Immersive Web chairs when they began
15:26:13 <wseltzer> ... see ^
15:26:19 <wseltzer> ... refers to the Guide, which has more detail
15:26:41 <tzviya> https://www.w3.org/Guide/
15:26:44 <Jem> aria onboarding issue I worked on - https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/1401
15:26:47 <wseltzer> ... I'll also note that there's more variation among groups of late
15:26:52 <wseltzer> ... in tooling
15:27:02 <tzviya> ack je
15:27:03 <cwilso> scribe+
15:27:10 <wseltzer> tzviya: added a link to the Guid ^
15:27:19 <wseltzer> s/Guid/Guide/
15:27:20 <cwilso> jemma: I also created an onboarding document for the ARIA WG.
15:27:57 <cwilso> ...it might be good to separate these resources into one pile
15:29:23 <BarbH> +1
15:29:41 <cwilso> wendy: Yes; I need to re-organize the prerecorded sessions vs Q&A/collaborative sessions.
15:30:05 <cwilso> ... will probably record these as small chunks, rather than one long recording
15:30:09 <tzviya> q?
15:30:53 <cwilso> tzviya: judy referred to another session Jory Burson did on conflict resolution/de-escalation, maybe a slide or two from that would go well here.
15:31:09 <cwilso> jemma: I love the Guide for Busy Peope
15:31:14 <cwilso> s/Peope/People
15:31:16 <tzviya> https://github.com/w3c/wg-effectiveness/blob/main/process.md
15:32:19 <wseltzer> q+
15:32:19 <sheila> I'd be happy to help, as needed
15:32:19 <cwilso> tzviya: we should talk about timelines if Wendy is ready
15:32:23 <cwilso> I'm happy to help
15:32:32 <tzviya> ack ws
15:32:42 <cwilso> q+
15:32:52 <cwilso> wseltzer: terrific work, happy to help
15:33:23 <cwilso> q-
15:33:29 <Jem> agenda?
15:33:34 <cwilso> tzviya: tpac inclusion
15:33:41 <cwilso> zakim, close agenda 2
15:33:41 <Zakim> agendum 2, Proposed Training (Wendy), closed
15:33:42 <Zakim> I see 2 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
15:33:42 <Zakim> 3. TPAC Inclusion Fund (Liz) [from 2 via tzviya]
15:33:46 <cwilso> zakim, take up next
15:33:46 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- TPAC Inclusion Fund (Liz) -- taken up [from 2]
15:34:00 <tzviya> https://github.com/w3c/PWETF/issues/174
15:34:43 <wseltzer> q+
15:34:47 <tzviya> ack ws
15:35:22 <cwilso> wseltzer: wasn't at the Chairs meeting this morning; not clear if hybrid meeting or purely virtual
15:35:38 <tzviya> here is the communication we wrote for last year https://github.com/w3c/PWETF/blob/main/TPACDiversityFundProposalComms.md#tpac-fellows-stipend
15:35:50 <cwilso> ...in whatever form TPAC takes, we'd like to help inclusion
15:36:10 <cwilso> ...as we know more about what the meeting will look like, we can figure out what kind of outreach to have.
15:36:18 <Jem> +q
15:36:54 <tzviya> ack je
15:38:05 <cwilso> jemma: we will need to clarify the goals of the fund to make sure we're getting appropriate requests.
15:38:33 <cwilso> tzviya: AC meeting is coming up in just a few weeks, so it would be good to get a call out then.
15:39:02 <wseltzer> https://github.com/w3c/PWETF/blob/main/TPACDiversityFundProposalComms.md#tpac-fellows-stipend
15:39:19 <wseltzer> q+
15:39:33 <wseltzer> q-
15:39:55 <BarbH> +Q
15:40:10 <tzviya> ack bar
15:40:54 <cwilso> barb: what was the AC/TAG's feedback on the funds?
15:41:44 <cwilso> tzviya: in the years that we're remote, people are pleased we're doing it, but there's not that much advocacy.
15:41:52 <cwilso> ...positive feeling.
15:41:56 <cwilso> +1
15:42:41 <cwilso> barb: inclusion and diversity only came up in the W3C's strategic update in the context of accessibility
15:42:47 <wseltzer> q+
15:43:01 <cwilso> ....it seems we need to get Jeff (and the AC) more on board...
15:43:06 <tzviya> ack ws
15:43:09 <cwilso> q+
15:43:36 <cwilso> wseltzer: thank you for mentioning while we're planning/closing in on the AC meeting.  We should highlight that commitment.
15:43:37 <cwilso> +1
15:43:42 <cwilso> q-
15:43:59 <cwilso> barb: happy to help
15:44:48 <cwilso> tzviya: it's important to follow through , not just talk
15:44:56 <cwilso> barb: need to give tools to be successful.
15:45:41 <Jem> agenda?
15:45:42 <cwilso> zakim, agenda?
15:45:43 <Zakim> I see 2 items remaining on the agenda:
15:45:43 <Zakim> 3. TPAC Inclusion Fund (Liz) [from 2 via tzviya]
15:45:43 <Zakim> 4. AOB [from tzviya]
15:45:50 <cwilso> zakim, close agenda 3
15:45:50 <Zakim> agendum 3, TPAC Inclusion Fund (Liz), closed
15:45:51 <Zakim> I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:
15:45:51 <Zakim> 4. AOB [from tzviya]
15:45:55 <cwilso> zakim, take up agenda 4
15:45:55 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- AOB -- taken up [from tzviya]
15:46:00 <tzviya> https://zoom.us/webinar/register/WN_1SWwhv3kShOx4_pEv0N4gw
15:46:06 <cwilso> tzviya: upcoming bystander training
15:46:28 <cwilso> ... this is an excellent training I recommend, for free
15:46:33 <tzviya> q?
15:46:57 <BarbH> Thank you for the recommendation
15:47:02 <cwilso> wendy: +1 this is an excellent training.  It's also occasionally offered in French.
15:47:21 <annette_g> +1 that StandUp training is great
15:47:33 <cwilso> tzviya: adjourned
15:47:40 <cwilso> RRSagent, make minutes
15:47:40 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/03/01-pwe-minutes.html cwilso
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