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16:59:24 <Ian> Meeting: SPC Task Force
16:59:42 <Ian> Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-payments-wg/2022Feb/0009.html
16:59:47 <Ian> Chair: Ian
16:59:49 <Ian> Scribe: Ian
16:59:50 <Ian> present+
16:59:54 <Ian> present+ Steve_Cole
17:00:39 <Ian> agenda+ SPC task force scheduling
17:00:46 <Ian> agenda+ Issue triage and prioritization
17:01:47 <Ian> present+ Nick_Burris
17:01:50 <Ian> present+ Stephen_McGruer
17:02:05 <Ian> present+ John_Bradley
17:02:11 <Ian> present+ Sameer_Tare
17:02:47 <Ian> regrets+ Carey
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17:03:08 <Ian> zakim, take up item 1
17:03:08 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- SPC task force scheduling -- taken up [from Ian]
17:03:32 <Ian> present+ Doug_Fisher
17:03:42 <Ian> Proposed: Move SPC task force discussions to the Thursday WPWG cal
17:03:51 <smcgruer_[EST]> +1
17:03:56 <Ian> +1
17:04:21 <Ian> John: +1
17:04:27 <Ian> SteveC: +1
17:04:34 <Ian> (No objections)
17:04:48 <Ian> ACTION: Ian to announce to WG that SPC discussions will move to main meeting.
17:04:56 <Ian> ...and to end the Monday meeting series.
17:05:09 <Ian> [Anne said +1 to this]
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17:05:17 <Ian> zakim, close item 1
17:05:17 <Zakim> agendum 1, SPC task force scheduling, closed
17:05:18 <Zakim> I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:
17:05:18 <Zakim> 2. Issue triage and prioritization [from Ian]
17:05:20 <Ian> zakim, take up item 2
17:05:20 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- Issue triage and prioritization -- taken up [from Ian]
17:06:17 <Ian> * Experiment feedback
17:06:31 <Ian> * Issue management
17:06:33 <Ian> * Horizontal review
17:07:09 <Ian> * Test suite (later)
17:07:30 <Ian> * Implementation stability
17:08:37 <Ian> present+ Clinton_Allen
17:09:36 <Ian> Stephen: We've already done v1 from our perspective.
17:09:56 <Ian> ...we think it's stable, but we are planning to make a breaking change (RPID)
17:10:19 <Ian> Ian: Any other breaking changes envisioned?
17:10:24 <Ian> Stephen: Not that I'm aware of.
17:10:31 <Ian> Stephen: Here's what we are thinking about:
17:11:07 <Ian> 1) Experimental feedback. We hope to have something from Adyen/Airbnb. We've heard from Stripe that they are depending on the opt-out.
17:11:45 <Ian> 2) For issue management, I think that our biggest concerns from Chrome perspective are (1) opt-out and (2) web authentication integration
17:11:58 <Ian> ...until we have those, I don't think we can consider SPC a v1 API ready to advance
17:12:36 <Ian> 3) Regarding test suite; WPT has pretty good coverage for that which we consider testable.
17:12:43 <Ian> ...we could imagine a manual test suite as well
17:13:34 <Ian> Ian: what does "web auth integration" mean here?
17:14:21 <Ian> Stephen: Want to get rid of in-browser cache and get to something that has cross browser and synched support.
17:16:07 <Ian> ...we have two dependencies today on the platform.
17:16:51 <smcgruer_[EST]> https://w3c.github.io/secure-payment-confirmation/#steps-to-determine-if-a-credential-is-spc-enabled
17:16:56 <smcgruer_[EST]> https://w3c.github.io/secure-payment-confirmation/#steps-to-silently-determine-if-a-credential-is-available-for-the-current-device
17:17:40 <smcgruer_[EST]> s/dependencies/unmet dependencies
17:17:41 <Ian> Ian: Any other pieces that are critical to resolve?
17:17:59 <Ian> John_Bradley: I agree that the most critical thing to resolve is what we are asking WebAuthn/CTAP to store
17:18:23 <Ian> Ian: Is there an active thread in CTAP?
17:18:43 <smcgruer_[EST]> q+
17:18:45 <Ian> John: No. The threads in the WebAuthn WG are mostly going to come down to "we need a clear request from the Web Payments WG."
17:18:49 <Ian> ack sm
17:19:12 <Ian> smcgruer_[EST]: My takeaway was that WebAuthn folks said "not our problem; figure out CTAP and then come back to us."
17:19:39 <Ian> ...we have not yet figured out how to get progress in CTAP
17:19:56 <Ian> John: Google and CABLE will need CTAP support in addition to others
17:21:00 <Ian> q+
17:21:15 <Ian> ack me
17:21:16 <Ian> https://github.com/w3c/secure-payment-confirmation/issues/157#issuecomment-993877775
17:23:56 <Ian> John: This looks like it's come down to a single bit for "cross-origin" and all WebAuthn credentials can be used for payments.
17:24:05 <Ian> ...in a 1p context
17:25:09 <Ian> Stephen: An RP can use subdomains to control usage
17:25:42 <Ian> (Ian notes that is captured in the write-up; whew.)
17:26:06 <Ian> John: We are working on multi-device passkey stuff, and flags to indicate whether a credential is multi-device.
17:26:18 <Ian> ...this could potentially fit into that work
17:26:28 <Ian> ...the flags are defined in WebAuthn and implemented in CTAP.
17:27:55 <smcgruer_[EST]> q?
17:27:58 <smcgruer_[EST]> q+
17:28:14 <Ian> Ian: Should we add to issue WebAuthn 1695?
17:28:28 <Ian> John: We have one extra bit
17:28:38 <Ian> ack sm
17:29:06 <Ian> smcgruer_[EST]: Are you asking for us to post our summary (157) into 1667?
17:29:08 <Ian> John: +1
17:30:34 <Ian> ACTION: Stephen to point out our "proposal" on WebAuthn issue 1667
17:31:02 <Ian> Topic: Next meeting
17:31:07 <Ian> 3 March WPWG call
17:31:16 <Ian> ...no further monday meetings until further notice
17:31:45 <Ian> ACTION: Ian to work with Stephen on triaging issues list for WPWG consideration
17:31:52 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/02/28-wpwg-spc-minutes.html Ian
17:34:25 <Ian> RRSAGENT, bye
17:34:25 <RRSAgent> I see 3 open action items saved in https://www.w3.org/2022/02/28-wpwg-spc-actions.rdf :
17:34:25 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Ian to announce to WG that SPC discussions will move to main meeting. [1]
17:34:25 <RRSAgent>   recorded in https://www.w3.org/2022/02/28-wpwg-spc-irc#T17-04-48
17:34:25 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Stephen to point out our "proposal" on WebAuthn issue 1667 [2]
17:34:25 <RRSAgent>   recorded in https://www.w3.org/2022/02/28-wpwg-spc-irc#T17-30-34
17:34:25 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Ian to work with Stephen on triaging issues list for WPWG consideration [3]
17:34:25 <RRSAgent>   recorded in https://www.w3.org/2022/02/28-wpwg-spc-irc#T17-31-45
17:34:27 <Ian> zakim, bye
17:34:27 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees have been Ian, Steve_Cole, Nick_Burris, Stephen_McGruer, John_Bradley, Sameer_Tare, Doug_Fisher, Clinton_Allen
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