IRC log of miniapp on 2022-02-24
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- Meeting: MiniApps WG Teleconference
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- present+
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- scribe: xfq
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- present+ Yulu_Chao
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- present+ QingAn
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- present+ Wenli_Zhang
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- present+ Dan_Zhou
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- present+ Zitao_Wang
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- present+ martin
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- chair: QingAn
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- present+ Canfeng
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- Topic: White paper maintenance
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- present+ tomayac
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- present+ bingqing
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- qing: github @@
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- xfq: @@
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- qing: update?
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- dan: i haven't updated this yet
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- ... will do it this week
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- qing: previously the TAG asked the origin question
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- ... we haven't defined origin in the white paper
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- ... do you think we need to add something about origin in the white paper?
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- ... it's more related to the security and privacy section
- 12:06:13 [QingAn]
- When a Miniapp is launched what origin can it be said to have, with regard to the web's security model? That would seem to be important from a lifecycle point of view.
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- dan: i don't know what origin means in your description
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- https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/Headers/Origin
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- present+ xiaoqian
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- qing: previously we wrote the hosting app or OS is responsible for the security, but I'm not sure it's enough to answer the question from the TAG
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- s/the security/the security of the miniapp/
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- zitao: i think the origin issue is a common question about our work
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- ... martin and i discussed this issue
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- ... in Addressing and Packaging we also need to consider this issue
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- ... I agree with you that we need to reflect this idea in the white paper
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- ... I volunteer to work with Dan to work on the security part
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- dan: I think the 'origin' concept is like our domain check in the network request API
- 12:12:27 [martin_alvarez]
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- qing: maybe you could take the action to update this section?
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- dan: ok
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- xfq: we have some comments in Tencent Docs
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- [discuss the comments in tencent docs]
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- qing: my suggestion is we finish the update next week
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- ... hope to have a rough consensus to publish this in our next meeting
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- [discuss the MiniApp in the Globe section]
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- qing: we can rename MiniApp in the Globe to MiniApp Standardization in the Globe
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- qing: lifecycle
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- https://github.com/w3c/miniapp-lifecycle/pull/18
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- Related TAG issue -> https://github.com/w3c/miniapp-lifecycle/issues/15
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- qing: added two sentences about service workers and page visibility
- 12:30:35 [xiaoqian]
- xfq: this is not normative text, shall we point to the explainer in the White Paper?
- 12:30:55 [xiaoqian]
- zitao: agree, it shall be good enough
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- https://github.com/w3c/miniapp-lifecycle/pull/21
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- qing: any comments?
- 12:35:09 [xiaoqian]
- xfq: I see that this is a read-only value? can it be changed? is it still by default?
- 12:35:20 [xiaoqian]
- QingAn: oh, it can be deleted
- 12:35:36 [xiaoqian]
- martin: if you want to keep it, we can add a note for clarification
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- ... there are many examples there
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- QingAn: it will be useful for the developers
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- s/QingAn: it/Martin: it
- 12:37:14 [xiaoqian]
- QingAn: thank you for the suggestion, maybe I should add a note
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- https://github.com/w3c/miniapp-lifecycle/pull/19
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- [qing describes the PR]
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- qing: we can keep this open and give people time to think about it
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- qing: manifest
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- https://github.com/w3c/miniapp-manifest/pull/40
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- martin: wording fixes
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- https://github.com/w3c/miniapp-manifest/pull/41
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- martin: split the Privacy and Security sections
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- https://raw.githack.com/espinr/miniapp-manifest/priv-sec-sections/index.html#security-considerations
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- [martin introduces the changes in the PR]
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- martin: saw questions from xfq
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- ... haven't replied yet
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- xfq: is changing the UI more for security or for privacy?
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- martin: shall we move it to the Sec Consideration section?
- 12:50:20 [xiaoqian]
- xfq: maybe?
- 12:50:53 [xiaoqian]
- martin: it's more about security. If you want, I can move it to the Sec section?
- 12:51:01 [xiaoqian]
- xfq: yes...
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- QingAn: what's the plan to do a CfC in the group?
- 12:52:29 [xiaoqian]
- martin: it's ready to review when I finish some minor updates today
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- qing: packaging
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- https://github.com/w3c/miniapp-packaging/pull/45
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- martin: Fixed ReSpec warning
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- ... unless you have any objection I plan to merge it
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- https://github.com/w3c/miniapp-packaging/pull/47
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- martin: will update this PR today
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- ... after merging this we can discuss the CSP issue
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- qing: addressing and widget requirements?
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- dan: two editorial PR from xfq
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- ... i have merged them
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- xfq: will send transition request for widget req
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- Topic: TPAC 2022 hybrid meeting
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- qing: survey from w3c
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- ... online or f2f?
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- ... survey is about whether we can meet in person
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- zitao: need some time to investigate
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- ... we can discuss this in the next meeting
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- https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/34786/tpac2022-fall-meetings/
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- https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/34786/tpac2022-fall-meetings/results
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- qing: xfq could you send the questions to the group?
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- xfq: ok
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- qing: next meeting
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- +1
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- (March 24)
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