Meeting minutes
Scribe, rssagent, any agenda additions? (Please put present+ in IRC)
Updates: publication plans, announcements https://www.w3.org/WAI/cc/wiki/WAI_Announcement_Drafts
js: SAUR soon, possibly second Wide Review
exploring joint pub with Timed Text WG
jb: how would comments be handled?
mc: we can figure it out
jb: Were redesigns announced? Were they supposed to be?
slh: they´re not ready to announce, but we will announce
bb: just finished designer curricula, on to next
Checking: New work under development? And status on cross-WAI review requests.
<crickets/>
Questions on W3C LE
js: Léonie Watson requested to present AB thinking on LE
started with APA, they asked to include AG, so now it´s anycomers
it´s scheduled 9 March 2022 10:00 am Boston time
jb: just learned of this, find it unusual half of AB appears to be joining APA
for this meeting
appears to be targeting questions about WAI structure
for which there is background that appears not to have been considered
perhaps open to all groups? time slot maybe an issue
js: all I know is what they said, they want to introduce the plan and take questions
<Zakim> shawn, you wanted to ask background needed? and to ask --- also EO vs. lean-mean-standards org
slh: news to me as well
if targeting WAI groups, could explore
this call slot is for facilitators, would general group participants be welcome?
issue related to EOWG is lean-mean-standards machine vs. including education and outreach. not sure when and how to present that to EOWG?
rbm: +1 to invite AG directly, with context since we didn´t prime them
js: looking for a faq for background
jb: formation of LE has mainly been in Advisory Board (AB) and W3C Management (W3M)
there may be a FAQ being prepared, don´t know of a location yet
js: the invite is structured around existence of an FAQ
otherwise we´ll have to restructure and give people background only at the meeting
jb: how was this coming to others?
bb: picked up from Janina´s message, started to wonder
also wonder how would impact EO ability to produce deliverables
need to figure out what should your WG AC reps know about?
jb: also staff
mc: this thing kinda snowballed from a simple thing
jb: helpful to know it started casually; should have raised radar when half of AB joining a WG call
because of overlap with other efforts, it could unintentionally disrupt
we´ll need to be careful of use of the public channel in discussion
we do need people to have the info, trying to keep things stable through the transition
js: reinforcing the FAQ need, and also we plan to collect questions in advance
<abstract transparency irony joke/>
jb: funding is complex, need to avoid misunderstandings
working a lot to keep consistent through the transition
do most groups want to join this?
bb: it is difficult without background
if the chairs are sent some info, they could provide background in a WG meeting
js: I can share the draft message, which has most of the content
Calendaring: A few quick follow-ups from last meeting's input on accessibility issues
https://
jb: interesting discussion last time
also running into browser issues
please keep reporting, e.g., in github
any follow-ups to capture here?
<crickets/>
TPAC: Having useful discussions with your groups about this? Virtual & hybrid hallways?
jb: how are discussions going?
jb: <asks scribe a question, who stops scribing a while to answer>
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<shawn> shawn: something not right with this group. I think when adding people in DB, they are not getting added to e-mail, though I think e-mail should be DB-backed
jb: gonna talk to Ralph about that and other things soon
there´s a db-backed hack
<switch to Team jargon>
not scribed
<switch back to WAI jargon>
kp: <names/> examples of recent changes that didn´t work
jb: think there are separate related issues
will see if there is a better way to support wai-cc
kp: there seems to be one or more lists I´m not on that people think I´m on
jb: recent notice about hybrid meetings, did people pick that up?
js: saw it, didn´t prioritize
jb: axiom: APA thrives on intergroup contact
js: given
jb: this planning group is trying to figure out how to make that work well
across time zones, geography
etc.
we really want crosstalk among groups, APA is a perfect use case
js: sure; we´ve been burned in the past trying to accommodate everyone
jb: that sounds like relevant input to that meeting
js: examples of stuff we did at Fukuoka
jb: which groups have people wanting an in person component?
js: stronger yes than expected in APA and TFs
bb: EO 50 / 50
<shawn> EOWG survey https://
would rather meet 1 day FtF than a 2-day virtual meeting
at TPAC we typically take the other day to join other groups
would probably continue that pattern
<shawn> MC: ARIA want ot meet in person. AG Chairs checking. AG Chairs feel strongly to meet. We expect hybrid. Enough to meet in perons, and some not in person.
jb: TFs?
kp: probably won´t
<back to DB systems issues/>
jb: suggest file to sysreq@w3.org, copy MichaelC and me
wonder if inviting a Systems person here to collect issues would be helpful?
<brent> Generally have access to all tools and resources when needed. Shawn helps when access is an issue.
<Ryladog> is TPAC still planned for 12-16 September in Vancouver?
COGA: Updated work statement
jb: further discussion, any update?
rbm: not right now
jb: is there a window for comment still?
rbm: very short window, before going to AG and APA for approval
Findability: Highlighting work done -- AUR series? EO docs?
jb: reviewing materials over the past year
wonder if there should a batched highlight on the AURs
slh: to start, set up an overview page for them
think we should do something quick and simple
then come back to easier to find etc.
<Zakim> shawn, you wanted to say that's on my list
https://
<shawn> MC: maybe under quick and simple - TR page tagging
<shawn> ... could request tag for -AURs
jb: re categorization, think separating AUR from Pronunciation / Personalization specs important
slh: long on the todo list to create a resource for WAI current work
<Zakim> shawn, you wanted to say what WAi's working on
<Ryladog> Do we have a sitemap (nightmare, I know)?
aiming for before CSUN this year
js: note only 3 - 4 are completed, others in development
slh: note Low Vision and Mobile have similar content not yet in the AUR format
js: what about accessibility of remote meetings
jb: +1, circle back