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14:46:38 <trackbot> Meeting: Internationalization Working Group Teleconference
14:46:38 <trackbot> Date: 10 February 2022
14:46:41 <agendabot> agenda: https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/5e4758ba-3e80-4e71-b333-5f2c4fd95abd/20220210T150000
14:46:41 <agendabot> clear agenda
14:46:41 <agendabot> agenda+ Agenda Review
14:46:41 <agendabot> agenda+ Action Items
14:46:44 <agendabot> agenda+ Info Share
14:46:46 <agendabot> agenda+ RADAR Review
14:46:48 <agendabot> agenda+ Review 'Pending' issues
14:46:51 <agendabot> agenda+ Explainer for TAG and ES-402
14:46:53 <agendabot> agenda+ AOB?
14:46:53 <addison> Chair: Addison Phillips
14:47:07 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/02/10-i18n-minutes.html addison
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14:57:20 <addison> present+
14:57:48 <addison> present+ Atsushi
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15:01:00 <addison> present+ Eemeli
15:02:15 <addison> present+ Bert
15:02:41 <addison> present+ Richard
15:04:06 <Bert> scribe+
15:04:23 <addison> agenda?
15:04:40 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 1
15:04:40 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Agenda Review -- taken up [from agendabot]
15:04:58 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 2
15:04:58 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- Action Items -- taken up [from agendabot]
15:05:07 <addison> https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open
15:05:32 <Bert> action-925?
15:05:32 <trackbot> action-925 -- Addison Phillips to Update string-meta to include json-ld changes, etc. -- due 2020-07-09 -- OPEN
15:05:32 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/925
15:06:14 <Bert> addison: Fixing links in string meta. Could merge soon.
15:06:42 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/string-meta/pull/56
15:07:13 <Bert> ... building up in the pull request ^^, some edits that r12a and I reviewed.
15:07:13 <JcK> present+ JcK
15:07:23 <Bert> ... merge it after this call?
15:07:49 <addison> action: addison: ping felix
15:07:49 <trackbot> Created ACTION-1114 - Ping felix [on Addison Phillips - due 2022-02-17].
15:08:11 <Bert> action-1094?
15:08:11 <trackbot> action-1094 -- Addison Phillips to Start conversation with ecma-402 et al about webidl work -- due 2021-11-11 -- OPEN
15:08:11 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/1094
15:08:32 <Bert> addison: Getting closer.
15:08:43 <Bert> action-1104?
15:08:43 <trackbot> action-1104 -- Addison Phillips to Respond to dom's thread after xfq forwards note -- due 2021-12-09 -- OPEN
15:08:43 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/1104
15:09:07 <Bert> r12a: plh asked me to connect Addison and Dom.
15:09:21 <Bert> action-1109?
15:09:21 <trackbot> action-1109 -- Addison Phillips to Remind shepherds to tend to their awaiting comment resolutions -- due 2022-01-27 -- OPEN
15:09:21 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/1109
15:09:46 <Bert> action-1113?
15:09:46 <trackbot> action-1113 -- Addison Phillips to Clean up linking on specdev -- due 2022-02-10 -- OPEN
15:09:46 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/1113
15:10:02 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 3
15:10:02 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- Info Share -- taken up [from agendabot]
15:10:59 <Bert> JcK: With new systems, if you say we should look at string meta explainer, where do I find it?
15:11:24 <Bert> addison: I should have added the link...
15:11:42 <Bert> JcK: And in the general case?
15:12:31 <Bert> eemeli: I'm going to present in ECMA forum.
15:13:06 <Bert> addison: Glad to see that.
15:13:23 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 4
15:13:23 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- RADAR Review -- taken up [from agendabot]
15:13:32 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/projects/1
15:13:38 <Bert> i/eemeli/subtopic: ECMA
15:13:56 <Bert> addison: New request for css-variables. Anybody?
15:14:38 <Bert> addison: I'll take it myself.
15:15:21 <Bert> addison: NAUR?
15:15:28 <Bert> Bert: not yet
15:15:34 <Bert> addison: font transfer?
15:15:53 <Bert> atsushi: Can move to completed.
15:16:09 <Bert> addison: Can you edit a comment to say there are ni issues?
15:16:56 <Bert> addison: IMSC-HRM: I filed comments.
15:17:01 <Bert> r1
15:17:06 <Bert> s/r1//
15:18:42 <Bert> addison: Anybody apart form Behdad we can talk to?
15:18:48 <Bert> f/form/from/
15:19:10 <addison> agenda?
15:19:19 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 5
15:19:19 <Zakim> agendum 5 -- Review 'Pending' issues -- taken up [from agendabot]
15:19:34 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3Apending
15:20:47 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/607
15:21:02 <Bert> addison: Starting from the oldest...
15:21:37 <Bert> ... is this stale? I think they did some work on it.
15:21:56 <Bert> r12a: Can't remember, but why don't we close it.
15:22:11 <Bert> addison: Contact them?
15:22:14 <addison> action: addison: investigate input type=email status
15:22:14 <trackbot> Created ACTION-1115 - Investigate input type=email status [on Addison Phillips - due 2022-02-17].
15:22:59 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/1021
15:23:34 <Bert> addison: Seems to have an issue already, so shouldn't be "pending".
15:23:46 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/1358
15:24:36 <Bert> addison: Not in the right repo?
15:24:52 <Bert> r12a: I remember was looking for a place.
15:25:05 <addison> action: richard: follow up on issue 1358
15:25:05 <trackbot> Created ACTION-1116 - Follow up on issue 1358 [on Richard Ishida - due 2022-02-17].
15:25:16 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/1370
15:25:48 <Bert> addison: Appears to have an issue, so not "pending" anymore.
15:26:52 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/1371
15:27:22 <Bert> addison: Does have an issue as well.
15:27:41 <Bert> r12a: But not an i18n label on that issue.
15:28:09 <Bert> ... So we should ask plh why that repo is not enabled for i18n labels.
15:28:21 <addison> action: richard: contact plh to add horizontal review labels et al in a11y-discov-vocab
15:28:22 <trackbot> Created ACTION-1117 - Contact plh to add horizontal review labels et al in a11y-discov-vocab [on Richard Ishida - due 2022-02-17].
15:29:38 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/1411
15:30:35 <Bert> r12a: Looks like one we didn't send yet.
15:30:53 <Bert> addison: Objection to sending the comment?
15:31:11 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/1412
15:31:19 <Bert> r12a: If we know there is something else going on, we should maybe mention that to them.
15:31:44 <atsushi> related issue to #1411? -> https://github.com/w3c/secure-payment-confirmation/issues/93
15:32:23 <Bert> addison: If only there were a message format in JS that was localizable...
15:33:02 <Bert> ... Send this?
15:33:09 <Bert> r12a: Yes.
15:33:29 <Bert> atsushi: I wonder if @@
15:34:02 <Bert> addison: Also related to next issue.
15:34:31 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/1413
15:35:49 <Bert> addison: Send this?
15:35:52 <atsushi> total dictionaly is defined as PaymentItem which has DOMString as label: https://w3c.github.io/payment-request/#dom-paymentitem
15:35:58 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/1418
15:36:28 <Bert> addison: I will send the issues to payment.
15:37:31 <Bert> r12a: This (#1418) was raised by the w3cbot.
15:38:04 <Bert> ... Just remove the "pending" label.
15:38:59 <Bert> addison: There was a comment from Travis, but not sure he is right.
15:39:23 <Bert> ... Fuqiao not here today, but shall we ask him to follow up?
15:39:38 <addison> action: xfq: follow up on https://github.com/WICG/canvas-formatted-text/issues/36 (ask addison for details)
15:39:39 <trackbot> Created ACTION-1118 - Follow up on https://github.com/wicg/canvas-formatted-text/issues/36 (ask addison for details) [on Fuqiao Xue - due 2022-02-17].
15:39:54 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/1428
15:40:02 <atsushi> s/@@/label 'total' is not defined in SRC spec but something other/
15:40:34 <Bert> addison: Just remove "pending"?
15:40:37 <Bert> r12a: yes
15:40:41 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/1445
15:41:27 <Bert> addison: Same status as one before: it has an issue. I'll remove "pending".
15:42:12 <addison> action: richard: issue 1445 links to wrong spec, talk to plh about it
15:42:12 <trackbot> Created ACTION-1119 - Issue 1445 links to wrong spec, talk to plh about it [on Richard Ishida - due 2022-02-17].
15:42:26 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/1458
15:43:19 <Bert> addison: I reacted to that one, so we can remove "pending".
15:43:27 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/1462
15:44:42 <Bert> r12a: I wasn't sure what the commenter was asking for. Probably just wait, remove the labels and track it as normal.
15:44:53 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/1463
15:45:21 <Bert> s/commenter/commenter on 1462/7587/
15:45:50 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/1464
15:46:31 <Bert> r12a: Same as previous one.
15:46:55 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/1413
15:46:56 <Bert> atsushi: about #1413
15:47:13 <Bert> ... no, #1412
15:48:21 <Bert> addison: The comment is that there is a label, in English, without metadata.
15:49:22 <Bert> ... or should we just deprectae this comment (on payment-confirmation) and work on payment-request instead?
15:49:37 <Bert> s/deprectae/deprecate/
15:49:54 <Bert> ... Do you want to suggest some wording?
15:50:03 <Bert> atsushi: No.
15:50:41 <Bert> r12a: Going back to the <rb> element
15:51:13 <Bert> ... Fantasai and Florian are working on i18n stuff
15:51:28 <Bert> ... They may have to deal with this.
15:52:01 <Bert> addison: I heard that all browsers support ruby, so the fallback to plaintext not needed. And can style with CSS.
15:52:56 <Bert> r12a: I'm not intervening until those guys come with something.
15:53:21 <addison> zakim, take up agtendum 6
15:53:21 <Zakim> I don't understand 'take up agtendum 6', addison
15:53:26 <addison> https://github.com/aphillips/i18n-discuss/blob/gh-pages/explainers/string-meta-explainer.md
15:53:43 <Bert> zakim, take up agendum 6
15:53:43 <Zakim> agendum 6 -- Explainer for TAG and ES-402 -- taken up [from agendabot]
15:54:21 <Bert> addison: I welcome contributions. I added the comments we made last time.
15:55:01 <Bert> r12a: How much are you still going to change it? So I don't read it too early.
15:55:26 <Bert> addison: Let's target next Thursday, so Thursday in 2 weeks we can discuss.
15:56:47 <Bert> Discussion about readability of agenda in calendar.
15:58:01 <Bert> r12a: Maybe put the non-ordinary items at the top...
15:58:17 <Bert> addison: I'll make it useful and beautiful :-)
15:58:48 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 7
15:58:48 <Zakim> agendum 7 -- AOB? -- taken up [from agendabot]
15:59:07 <Bert> No other business.
15:59:24 <Bert> Zakim, end meeting
15:59:24 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been Addison, Atsushi, JcK, Richard, Bert, David, Erik, Nordin, Eemeli
15:59:26 <Zakim> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
15:59:26 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/02/10-i18n-minutes.html Zakim
15:59:29 <Zakim> I am happy to have been of service, Bert; please remember to excuse RRSAgent.  Goodbye
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