12:59:19 RRSAgent has joined #wot 12:59:19 logging to https://www.w3.org/2022/02/09-wot-irc 12:59:34 meeting: WoT-IG/WG 13:01:09 Mizushima has joined #wot 13:01:50 ktoumura has joined #wot 13:04:53 cris has joined #wot 13:06:09 dape has joined #wot 13:08:32 matsuda has joined #wot 13:09:12 topic: minute review 13:13:17 -> https://www.w3.org/2022/02/02-wot-minutes.html Feb-2 13:13:35 agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#9_February_2022 13:13:45 chair: McCool 13:13:51 regrets+ Sebastian 13:14:31 present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, Cristiano_Aguzzi, Daniel_Peintner, Ege_Korkan 13:14:36 (minutes approved) 13:14:46 topic: Editors call 13:14:59 -> https://www.w3.org/2022/02/08-wot-ed-minutes.html Feb-8 minutes 13:15:06 mm: discussion on terminology, etc. 13:15:19 ... more discussion during the Architecture call tomorrow 13:15:25 topic: WoT-JP CG 13:15:36 mizu: will organize outreach events 13:15:44 mm: concrete dates? 13:15:52 mlagally_ has joined #wot 13:15:52 mizu: will let you know once decided 13:16:30 topic: tpac 2022 13:16:46 i/approved/scribenick: kaz/ 13:16:50 scribenick: Ege 13:17:01 mm: the main question is whether to do hybrid or virtual 13:17:11 q+ 13:17:32 present+ Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_Lagally, Michael_Koster, Ryuichi_Matsukura, Tetsushi_Matsuda, Tomoaki_Mizushima 13:18:15 q- 13:18:17 ... we need to think about plugfest and f2f 13:18:41 q+ 13:19:00 mm: I want to say yes if there is no quarantine at entry 13:19:28 q+ 13:19:44 ack e 13:21:57 ege: I would like to attend physically if enough people show up so that we can have longer meetings and talks 13:22:14 mm: do not forget that preparing for travel and travelling takes time 13:22:34 q+ 13:22:41 q- 13:23:46 kaz: as w3c, we want to have your honest opinion, not only meeting but also socializing, fees etc. 13:23:51 ack k 13:24:15 q+ 13:25:29 ack m 13:25:30 s/have/get/ 13:25:37 s/opinion/opinions/ 13:26:15 ml: I am a big fan of physical meetings but a physical event this year this year seems not feasible due to covid, just a stomach feeling 13:26:40 mm: we have 4 months charter extension 13:28:18 s/extension/extension to finalize the one year extension procedure/ 13:28:24 mm: any further comments on the charter extension? 13:28:42 rrsagent, make log public 13:28:47 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:28:47 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/02/09-wot-minutes.html kaz 13:29:16 topic: publications 13:29:45 i/publications/(none)/ 13:30:11 mm: my understanding is that we are adding dataresponse and get WD out the door 13:30:20 ml: yes but keeping it open for the notify operation 13:31:25 mm: discovery: we do not have a normative content on what the consumer should do with discovery 13:32:28 mm: so that needs to be written, which pushes our feature freeze date 13:33:21 mm: also somehow we have duplicate text in the schedule, will fix it 13:34:51 ml: the last dates should be PRs 13:34:59 mm: that is probably why there are the duplicates 13:36:25 mm: another ongoing thing is the wide review 13:37:50 mm: I am doing the security and privacy questionnaire for td but I am now wondering if we should do one but link to multiple specs we are working on since there are lots of duplications 13:38:42 mm: there are some small changes in the questionnaire 13:39:25 mm: in the PR I also have the old questionnaire in the same readme 13:39:59 present+ Fady_Salama 13:40:50 mm: I think one document makes more sense 13:41:02 ege: do you mean all deliverables or only the ones in the rec track? 13:41:06 mm: only in the rec track 13:41:09 q+ 13:41:15 mm: I will have a draft ready this week 13:41:45 ack dape 13:42:44 q+ 13:43:49 dp: would this mean that one issue would block all documents? 13:43:58 mm: if structured well, I hope it does not 13:44:37 kaz: I think it would be good to have a template written by you 13:45:54 s/I think it would be good/That's a possible approach, but I think it might be easier/ 13:46:25 s/by you/by you, and the other Editors extend that template for their specs./ 13:46:29 ack k 13:46:32 q? 13:46:32 topic: WoT CG 13:46:41 stevelee has joined #wot 13:47:15 -> https://www.w3.org/community/about/tool/#choose-chair guide for CG Chair selection 13:47:17 q+ 13:47:40 [[ 13:47:41 When a group has already chosen its Chair(s), only the Chair(s) themselves see the checkboxes. Only Chairs may add or remove Chairs. Chairs may remove themselves. 13:47:41 ]] 13:48:29 mm: dr has made ege and cristiano chairs of the CG, which does not follow the process 13:48:41 mm: now we have to remove them as chairs, start voting procedure 13:49:23 q+ 13:49:28 ack k 13:49:29 kaz: I am talking with Dave 13:51:33 s/Dave/Dave, and would suggest (1) we once remove the update Chairs candidates wrongly nominated, and (2) we start over the official Chair selection procedure. I'll send a reminder about that to the CG mailing list about the procedure responding to Dave's message./ 13:51:51 -> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-web-of-things/2022Jan/0000.html Dave's message 13:53:11 mm: I will run my tools to update the template 13:53:38 mm: we also have the recordings of the ITU-T webinarr 13:53:51 i/I will run/topic: Testing/ 13:54:00 i/we also/topic: Liaisons/ 13:54:11 i/we also/subtopic: ITU-T Webinar/ 13:54:16 mm: of interest, Long Rong from China Telecom has presented what she called Thing Models but actually it is digital twins 13:54:36 i|of in|-> https://www.itu.int/en/ITU-T/webinars/20220203/Pages/default.aspx Webinar page| 13:54:52 s/China Telecom/China Mobile/ 13:55:42 mm: so we should get into touch with china telecom 13:56:36 q? 13:56:44 ack c 13:56:54 mm: we also had some geospatial discussions in the use case call 13:56:57 q+ 13:57:00 mm: anything new from Echonet? 13:57:28 kaz: yes I have worked with them for further discussion 13:57:51 s/yes I have worked/yes, I've been working with them/ 13:57:51 ... they will have a joint event with japanese CG and X (kaz I could not catch the other participant) 13:58:01 s/they/FYI, they/ 13:58:41 mm: they also asked us to speak in the IETF, should be soon 13:58:47 https://github.com/t2trg/2022-03-summary 13:59:02 mm: we have a 15 mins slot to give updates 13:59:02 s/ they will have a joint event with japanese CG and X (kaz I could not catch the other participant)/they're talking with the WoT-JP CG as well, and (as Mizushima-san mentioned) there is a plan to have a joint event in March./ 13:59:35 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:59:35 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/02/09-wot-minutes.html kaz 14:00:12 mm: a bit late for japan. they are also doing some work on iot security that is of interest 14:00:19 mm: aob? 14:01:27 s/china telecom/China Mobile/ 14:01:45 i/anything new from/subtopic: ECHONET/ 14:02:00 i/they also/subtopic: IRTF T2TRG/ 14:02:14 s/they also/T2TRG also/ 14:02:29 [adjourned] 14:02:33 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:02:33 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/02/09-wot-minutes.html kaz 14:10:04 Fady has joined #wot 14:12:54 topic: previous minutes 14:14:11 fady: we discussed about a possible test suite for discovery 14:14:54 dezell has joined #wot 14:15:06 present+ David_Ezell 14:37:06 Mizushima has left #wot 16:16:12 Zakim has left #wot 16:23:59 dsr_ has joined #wot 18:56:43 stevelee has joined #wot