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14:58:10 <trackbot> Meeting: Spoken Pronunciation Task Force Teleconference
14:58:10 <trackbot> Date: 02 February 2022
14:58:25 <PaulG> Agenda+ Agenda Review & Announcements
14:58:34 <PaulG> Agenda+ Action Items
14:58:40 <PaulG> Agenda+ Github Issues
14:58:45 <PaulG> Agenda+ Other Business
14:58:55 <PaulG> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/task-forces/pronunciation/track/actions/open
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14:59:24 <trackbot> Meeting: Spoken Pronunciation Task Force Teleconference
14:59:24 <trackbot> Date: 02 February 2022
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14:59:38 <Irfan> agenda?
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15:04:13 <Irfan> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/110437/PronunciationNewTime
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15:08:31 <PaulG> Please complete the survey for our new meeting time.
15:08:44 <PaulG> zakim, take up next item
15:08:44 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Agenda Review & Announcements -- taken up [from PaulG]
15:09:58 <PaulG> mhakkinen: while at ATIA and doing our presentation I learned that college board will join W3C in the near future and officially join this TF
15:10:08 <PaulG> janina: awesome!
15:11:27 <PaulG> mhakkinen: and we may also be hearing from Sara Wood as an invited expert. She also presented at ATIA.
15:12:16 <PaulG> Irfan: While in Colorado, we met Patrick Sullivan who has inquired about joining the TF as an invited expert.
15:13:30 <PaulG> janina: Roy won't be around to advance those applications until he's back from vacation.
15:15:00 <PaulG> janina: TPAC dates have been published. It will be Sept 12-16 in Vanouver, BC (hybrid).
15:16:57 <PaulG> mhakkinen: my experience going to an in-person conference was underwhelming. The attendance wasn't great at ATIA. We had four participants in the meeting room and there was no equipment for streaming or recording.
15:17:11 <PaulG> mhakkinen: "not all the rooms were equipped"
15:17:46 <PaulG> mhakkinen: this information wasn't available to the speakers or the attendees. I did record it on my iPhone.
15:18:55 <PaulG> janina: re: TPAC it's purpose is for cross-group meetings to remove blockers. For instance, in this group if we're still discussing the ARIA proposal, we could have that conversation.
15:19:34 <PaulG> janina: sometimes we can also try to work through a lot of work of our own.
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15:21:29 <PaulG> Irfan: I've completed the survey but I'm still working on the markdown page in Github
15:21:53 <PaulG> https://github.com/w3c/pronunciation/issues/101
15:32:06 <PaulG> janina: isn't this just a way to deal with ambiguous language/content?
15:34:32 <PaulG> https://github.com/github/time-elements
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15:38:26 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- Github Issues -- taken up [from PaulG]
15:39:13 <PaulG> zakim, close this item
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15:39:14 <Zakim> I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:
15:39:14 <Zakim> 4. Other Business [from PaulG]
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15:39:59 <PaulG> SteveNoble_: I have been tasked with finding a research base to support SSML for comprehension.
15:40:26 <PaulG> SteveNoble_: if you have a TTS application and it has better pronunciation it increases user comprehension.
15:40:39 <PaulG> SteveNoble_: this is very different from assessment content.
15:41:00 <PaulG> SteveNoble_: if anyone is aware of scientific research like this please share.
15:41:31 <PaulG> mhakkinen: I would look forward to hearing from Sara Wood who has talked about the lack of research on TTS>
15:42:38 <PaulG> mhakkinen: attention demands may be higher when there's less than perfect speech
15:44:56 <PaulG> I would expect user familiarity and cognitive or neurological disability to have large effect on speed and comprehension.
15:47:20 <PaulG> janina: on list I've heard younger TTS users preferring a TTS engine over a voice actor. Which surprised me. I've always preferred a human reader.
15:49:14 <PaulG> https://chinese.yabla.com/chinese-english-pinyin-dictionary.php?define=%E4%BA%91&limit=1000
15:49:22 <PaulG> https://www.trainchinese.com/v2/wordDetails.php?rAp=0&wordId=38970&tcLanguage=en
15:49:55 <PaulG> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calque
15:51:03 <PaulG> https://www.getblend.com/blog/calque-loan-translation/
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