12:50:20 RRSAgent has joined #dpvcg 12:50:20 logging to https://www.w3.org/2022/02/02-dpvcg-irc 12:50:43 ScribeNick: harsh 12:50:46 Meeting: DPVCG Meeting Call 12:50:49 Chair: harsh 12:51:15 Date: 02 FEB 2022 12:51:24 Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dpvcg/2022Jan/0022.html 12:52:01 Previous minutes => https://www.w3.org/2022/01/26-dpvcg-minutes.html 13:01:07 Present: harsh, beatriz, jan, paul 13:01:30 Present+: georg 13:08:04 Topic: DPV Primer 14:09:13 We have comments from Georg and Piero. 14:09:24 No other comments or observations in the room. 14:09:43 Comments related to description of topics and typos have been resolved. 14:12:05 --- 14:13:42 Regarding expression of DPV using SKOS or OWL, there has been a discussion the mailing list. 14:14:12 Currently, the choice is to provide both within the Primer. We await Piero & Luigi's text/material for this. 14:14:24 Primer will be updated along with other documentation after this. 14:14:25 --- 14:14:47 For other examples (and expression of use-cases), Harsh can provide SKOS examples. 14:15:10 For OWL examples, we need a volunteer. If willing, email Harsh. 14:15:53 --- 14:16:25 georg: In Signatu, we use DPV. The CTO says that adoption rate will depend on approaches, and will be different for different ones. 14:16:53 georg: Our clients prefer natural language expressions, which we turn into a JSON structure. Nothing more. 14:17:07 Topic: Technology 14:17:23 In the previous meeting, we discussed `Technology` as a concept, and agreed on its necessity and inclusion. 14:17:37 Proposals related to specific forms of technology, e.g. database or algorithm, are being proposed. 14:17:59 jan: In these, does `algorithm` refer to, e.g. anonymisation algorithm? If so, how to express this? 14:19:06 harsh: We have anonymisation and pseudo-anonymisation as measures. It would be preferable to express concepts related to those under that e.g. specific types of anonymisation techniques. 14:19:33 harsh: That being said, there is no restriction to also declare those as types of algorithms if doing so is necessary or needed, e.g. in an implementation. 14:19:33 --- 14:20:07 Conclusion of discussion -> For now, we include `Technology` as a concept, and for the rest, we look towards sources from ENISA / ISO / NIST / etc. for categories and concepts. 14:20:34 We have the option to provide these as a separate extension if the concepts we collect and provide are _opinionated_ rather than formal/universal. 14:20:42 Topic: Entities and their Categorisation 14:21:15 Currently in DPV, we have the `DataController` and similar concepts sitting alongside proposed concepts of `NonProfitOrganisation` and `NonGovernmentalOrganisation`. 14:21:44 Proposal is to have concept `LegalRole` to provide a separation between concepts such as controller and processors from organisation types. 14:22:41 jan: `IndustryConsortium` as a broad categorisation of `Organisation` is okay as specific types of consortium could be extended if needed. 14:23:09 The source of concepts is the ADMS vocabulary, with additional concepts added to balance expression e.g. Profit and NonProfit. 14:23:16 Present+: julian 14:23:53 julian: In GDPR Art.91, there is "church and religious associations or communities" mentioned as an organisation. These should also be provided for completion. 14:24:21 Discussion on what term to use for this did not conclude with any agreement. For now, we consider `ReligiousAssociation` as a proposed term awaiting further discussion. 14:24:25 -- 14:24:27 --- 14:26:16 The following concepts are accepted in today's meeting: `LegalRole`, `JointDataControllers`, `Organisation`, `IndustryConsortium`, `GovernmentalOrganisation`, `NonGovernmentalOrganisation`, `ForProfitOrganisation`, `NonProfitOrganisation`, `AcademicScientificOrganisation`, `NationalAuthority`, `RegionalAuthority`, `SupraNationalAuthority` 14:26:42 Property `hasEntity` as parent property of entity-related properties. 14:28:13 Term `ThirdCountry` to represent countries outside applicable jurisdiction (within whatever context it is used in). 14:28:16 Topic: Next Meeting 14:28:31 We will meet again in +1 week on 09-FEB at 13:00 WET / 14:00 CET 14:28:43 Discussion will continue on resolving concepts proposed in spreadsheet, and other items on Agenda. 14:28:47 zakim, bye 14:28:47 leaving. As of this point the attendees have been harsh, beatriz, jan, paul, :, georg, julian 14:28:47 Zakim has left #dpvcg 14:28:59 rrsagent, publish minutes v2 14:28:59 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/02/02-dpvcg-minutes.html harsh 14:29:02 rrsagent, set logs world-visible