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11:54:32 <xfq> Meeting: MiniApps WG Teleconference
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11:58:58 <xfq> present+ edmond_c_liang
11:59:06 <xfq> present+ wenli_zhang
12:00:37 <xfq> present+ tengyuan
12:00:39 <xfq> present+ zitao
12:02:39 <xfq> present+ canfeng
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12:06:14 <xfq> wenli: from last month's discussion we agreed to use web for ui components
12:06:22 <xfq> ... any update?
12:06:46 <xfq> zitao: this is work from the CG
12:06:53 <xfq> ... it's the WG meeting now
12:07:28 <xfq> wenli: ok
12:11:15 <xfq> @@white paper@@
12:12:05 <xfq> present+ yanyumeng, dan
12:12:22 <xfq> zitao: @@
12:12:25 <xfq> ... it's just early work
12:12:36 <xfq> ... would like to invite the WG to review this part
12:12:57 <martin> s/@@white paper@@/xfq: There is a draft in Tencent docs [sharing screen]. I'll do a pull request with the changes proposed.
12:13:49 <xfq> dan: i added some core features
12:14:02 <martin> s/zitao: @@/zitao: [Presenting the new changes on the comparison between PWA and MiniApps]
12:15:21 <martin> scribe+ martin
12:15:47 <martin> xfq: Do you want to review this now?
12:16:21 <martin> dan: Later. We can use the comments on the document.
12:17:28 <martin> ... [Overview of authentication, authorization and audit review]
12:18:03 <xfq> canfeng: super app vs. user agent
12:18:34 <xfq> martin: user agent is defined in packaging
12:19:06 <martin> s/canfeng: super app vs. user agent/canfeng: We need to use the same terms. Like 'user agent' instead of 'super app'
12:20:12 <martin> canfeng: Good to have this comparison, because we usually have problems to explain the difference.
12:20:29 <martin> ... I'll read it after the call.
12:21:11 <martin> zitao: Please colleagues, help us review this part (PWA Vs MiniApp).
12:21:52 <martin> dan: A suggestion: we need a brief conclusion about why not using PWA
12:22:06 <martin> ... Still no conclusion.
12:22:47 <martin> zitao: We are only listing the scenarios, we are not recommending non using PWA.
12:23:08 <martin> ... So there will be some cases for each technology.
12:23:11 <xfq> present+ Yulu_Chao
12:23:58 <martin> canfeng: [Comments on the Widget part]
12:24:44 <martin> ... Section is short, so please share your comments.
12:25:39 <martin> ... When we can have it?
12:26:19 <martin> xfq: There is no PR ready. We need another topic in today's meeting because the group needs to agree on this publication.
12:26:19 <xfq> present+ qing
12:26:39 <martin> ... We can discuss it in the widget item, later
12:27:07 <martin> ... An Qing is in the call, would you introduce the changes in lifecycle?
12:27:35 <martin> anqing: No big changes from last time, when I presented it.
12:28:49 <xfq> zitao: martin added parts for manifest, packaging, ui components
12:28:59 <xfq> martin: very brief, a couple of paragraphs
12:30:16 <martin> xfq: How we should proceed?
12:30:33 <martin> ... Should we move the document to github?
12:30:54 <martin> dan: Comments on the Tencent document are okay.
12:31:14 <martin> zitao: I agree, we can have one-two weeks of review.
12:31:52 <martin> xfq: So we will have more time to read/comment on the document before the call next month.
12:32:02 <martin> ... Comments?
12:32:31 <martin> ... We skipped the lifecycle spec
12:33:15 <martin> anqing: No updates. Just considering the 'privacy consideration' section, but still working on it.
12:33:23 <martin> xfq: Timeline for this?
12:33:37 <martin> anqing: Maybe next month.
12:34:09 <martin> ... We received comments on some specifications.
12:34:42 <martin> xfq: We can ask TAG review at any time on the current specs.
12:35:38 <xfq> wenli: packaging
12:36:06 <xfq> martin: we need to include at least an a11y section
12:36:11 <xfq> https://github.com/w3c/miniapp-packaging/pull/44
12:37:02 <xfq> martin: working on security and privacy sections
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12:39:30 <xfq_> martin: if you agree we can merge this PR
12:39:38 <xfq_> ... any comments?
12:40:12 <xfq_> zitao: thank you, martin
12:40:22 <xfq_> ... most documents need to have these sections
12:41:54 <xfq_> martin: for the next meeting i'll provide the privacy and security sections
12:42:41 <xfq_> xfq: if there's no objection we can merge this PR
12:42:45 <xfq_> wenli: addressing
12:42:50 <xfq_> dan: no update
12:42:55 <xfq_> ... any comments?
12:43:12 <xfq_> qing: for me https://github.com/w3c/miniapp-addressing/pull/4 looks good
12:43:20 <xfq_> ... we can ask TAG review
12:43:28 <xfq_> zitao: i have reviewed this last month
12:43:36 <xfq_> ... this is clear enough
12:43:41 <xfq_> ... i agree we can merge it
12:46:43 <martin> xfq: We can publish a Draft CG Note and ask for TAG review
12:46:53 <martin> ... We should convert it to a WG Note
12:47:15 <martin> ... If no objections, I can start the process after the meeting
12:47:30 <martin> ... thanks for your great work.
12:48:35 <martin> item: Widget Requirements
12:49:02 <martin> xfq: 1. Should we merge the PR?
12:49:59 <martin> s/merge the PR?/merge the explainer's PR?
12:50:25 <martin> ... 2. Should we publish the Widget spec as WG Note?
12:53:26 <xfq_> dan: Addressing sample code needs updateing
12:53:30 <xfq_> canfeng: will do
12:55:41 <xfq_> martin: manifest
12:55:54 <xfq_> ... working on privacy and security
12:56:02 <xfq_> ... will send a PR in this or next week
12:56:21 <xfq_> ... for the wide review
12:56:51 <xfq_> ... i will open a new issue about how to deal different domains
12:59:43 <xfq_> xfq: i see martin added an a11y section
12:59:46 <xfq_> https://github.com/w3c/miniapp-manifest/pull/37
13:01:16 <martin> +1 to approve the PR for template
13:01:41 <martin> topic: AOB
13:01:53 <martin> xfq: Next meeting?
13:02:08 <martin> ... 24th Feb (12.00 UTC)?
13:02:18 <martin> zitao: ok
13:02:23 <martin> anqing: ok
13:02:26 <martin> dan: ok
13:02:42 <martin> xfq: 24th Feb (12.00 UTC)
13:02:56 <martin> zitao: Happy lunar new year!
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