IRC log of miniapp on 2022-01-20

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Meeting: MiniApps WG Teleconference
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present+ edmond_c_liang
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present+ wenli_zhang
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present+ tengyuan
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present+ zitao
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present+ canfeng
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wenli: from last month's discussion we agreed to use web for ui components
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... any update?
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zitao: this is work from the CG
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... it's the WG meeting now
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wenli: ok
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@@white paper@@
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present+ yanyumeng, dan
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zitao: @@
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... it's just early work
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... would like to invite the WG to review this part
12:12:57 [martin]
s/@@white paper@@/xfq: There is a draft in Tencent docs [sharing screen]. I'll do a pull request with the changes proposed.
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dan: i added some core features
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s/zitao: @@/zitao: [Presenting the new changes on the comparison between PWA and MiniApps]
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xfq: Do you want to review this now?
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dan: Later. We can use the comments on the document.
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... [Overview of authentication, authorization and audit review]
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canfeng: super app vs. user agent
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martin: user agent is defined in packaging
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s/canfeng: super app vs. user agent/canfeng: We need to use the same terms. Like 'user agent' instead of 'super app'
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canfeng: Good to have this comparison, because we usually have problems to explain the difference.
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... I'll read it after the call.
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zitao: Please colleagues, help us review this part (PWA Vs MiniApp).
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dan: A suggestion: we need a brief conclusion about why not using PWA
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... Still no conclusion.
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zitao: We are only listing the scenarios, we are not recommending non using PWA.
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... So there will be some cases for each technology.
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present+ Yulu_Chao
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canfeng: [Comments on the Widget part]
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... Section is short, so please share your comments.
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... When we can have it?
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xfq: There is no PR ready. We need another topic in today's meeting because the group needs to agree on this publication.
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present+ qing
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... We can discuss it in the widget item, later
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... An Qing is in the call, would you introduce the changes in lifecycle?
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anqing: No big changes from last time, when I presented it.
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zitao: martin added parts for manifest, packaging, ui components
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martin: very brief, a couple of paragraphs
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xfq: How we should proceed?
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... Should we move the document to github?
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dan: Comments on the Tencent document are okay.
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zitao: I agree, we can have one-two weeks of review.
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xfq: So we will have more time to read/comment on the document before the call next month.
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... Comments?
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... We skipped the lifecycle spec
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anqing: No updates. Just considering the 'privacy consideration' section, but still working on it.
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xfq: Timeline for this?
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anqing: Maybe next month.
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... We received comments on some specifications.
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xfq: We can ask TAG review at any time on the current specs.
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wenli: packaging
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martin: we need to include at least an a11y section
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https://github.com/w3c/miniapp-packaging/pull/44
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martin: working on security and privacy sections
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martin: if you agree we can merge this PR
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... any comments?
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zitao: thank you, martin
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... most documents need to have these sections
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martin: for the next meeting i'll provide the privacy and security sections
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xfq: if there's no objection we can merge this PR
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wenli: addressing
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dan: no update
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... any comments?
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qing: for me https://github.com/w3c/miniapp-addressing/pull/4 looks good
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... we can ask TAG review
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zitao: i have reviewed this last month
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... this is clear enough
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... i agree we can merge it
12:46:43 [martin]
xfq: We can publish a Draft CG Note and ask for TAG review
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... We should convert it to a WG Note
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... If no objections, I can start the process after the meeting
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... thanks for your great work.
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item: Widget Requirements
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xfq: 1. Should we merge the PR?
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s/merge the PR?/merge the explainer's PR?
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... 2. Should we publish the Widget spec as WG Note?
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dan: Addressing sample code needs updateing
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canfeng: will do
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martin: manifest
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... working on privacy and security
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... will send a PR in this or next week
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... for the wide review
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... i will open a new issue about how to deal different domains
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xfq: i see martin added an a11y section
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https://github.com/w3c/miniapp-manifest/pull/37
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+1 to approve the PR for template
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topic: AOB
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xfq: Next meeting?
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... 24th Feb (12.00 UTC)?
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zitao: ok
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anqing: ok
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dan: ok
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xfq: 24th Feb (12.00 UTC)
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zitao: Happy lunar new year!
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