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14:04:32 <Wilco> present+
14:04:33 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), Wilco
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14:06:59 <Wilco> Francis: No action items from last week.
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14:08:01 <dmontalvo> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1onytB133NRc1EXEOVPizcOqeTi70r2JUcba-LgUyKEY/edit#heading=h.y5p1v6vmgi1x
14:09:35 <Wilco> ... Sent an e-mail to WAI IG about language. Had a few replies, including one from Janina on pronunciation.
14:09:45 <Wilco> ... Don't think there is much we can use now.
14:10:18 <Wilco> ... Got a private response with some points, but more or less where we ended up. There isn't much solid research. It's more individual preferences.
14:10:50 <Wilco> ... The list of edge cases is still something to work though.
14:12:14 <jeanne> +1
14:13:15 <Wilco> Wilco: This takes me back to ensuring blocks have languages indicated, and not worry about individual words. If we get pushback, that's the feedback we need.
14:14:46 <Wilco> Jeanne: Suggest we then separate the edge cases based on blocks and individual words.
14:27:35 <Wilco> Francis: ... Working to sort the edge cases.
14:31:03 <jeanne> "A block-level element always starts on a new line and takes up the full width available (stretches out to the left and right as far as it can)." MDN
14:34:21 <Wilco> Wilco: How about isolated links, like a link in the top-right corner to a different language version
14:35:59 <dmontalvo> He said bonjour, and everybody realized he was not French.
14:37:55 <Wilco> Wilco: I think anything that starts a new line after it is a block. Paragraphs, list items, etc.
14:38:15 <Wilco> Francis: Happy enough to put that out there and get the feedback
14:38:31 <Wilco> Daniel: Every screen reader user will give a different answer
14:40:46 <Wilco> Daniel: Maybe we need to dive a bit more into the paragraph structure. You have sentences, words, characters.
14:42:55 <Wilco> Francis: Are too many language changes actually a problem?
14:43:21 <Wilco> Jeanne: It's anicdata. Being conservative means not requiring anything we don't have good data about.
14:45:06 <Wilco> Wilco: I wonder if we should check in with AG, let them know the direction we're thinking of and ask what they feel about that.
14:46:05 <Wilco> Jeanne: Suggest we bring this to AG.
14:46:12 <Wilco> s/AG/Silver
14:48:15 <Wilco> Wilco: I can bring the question up in Silver
14:48:34 <Wilco> Francis: Do we want to show examples?
14:49:08 <Wilco> Wilco: I have the document, I can read from that, don't think we need to share that.
14:53:09 <jeanne> rrsagent, make minutes
14:53:09 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/01/11-silver-reliability-minutes.html jeanne
14:53:10 <Wilco> Francis: For next week I'll go through the document and figure out where we need to make changes
14:53:30 <Wilco> zakim, end meeting
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14:53:32 <Zakim> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
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14:53:36 <Zakim> I am happy to have been of service, Wilco; please remember to excuse RRSAgent.  Goodbye
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