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12:01:55 <kaz> meeting: WoT Scripting API
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12:02:42 <kaz> Chair: Daniel
12:02:53 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Jan_Romann
12:03:48 <kaz> present+ Daniel_Peintner
12:03:52 <kaz> chair: Daniel
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12:05:21 <kaz> present+ Cristiano_Aguzzi
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12:07:41 <cris> topic: previous minutes
12:07:45 <dape> -> https://www.w3.org/2021/12/13-wot-script-minutes.html
12:07:58 <kaz> present+ Tomoaki_Mizushima
12:08:11 <cris> dp: there were two minor typos
12:10:15 <cris> kaz: fixed
12:10:16 <kaz> present+ Zoltan_Kis
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12:11:16 <kaz> i/there were/scribenick: cris/
12:11:22 <cris> zkis: this time slot is a little bit difficult to me
12:11:36 <cris> dp: we could change it
12:12:08 <kaz> zakim, who is on the call?
12:12:08 <Zakim> Present: Kaz_Ashimura, Jan_Romann, Daniel_Peintner, Cristiano_Aguzzi, Tomoaki_Mizushima, Zoltan_Kis
12:12:32 <kaz> q+
12:12:50 <cris> zkis: we could move the call between sec and discovery
12:12:55 <kaz> q-
12:12:58 <cris> cris: it is ok for me
12:13:08 <cris> kaz: I have another meeting in that slot
12:13:18 <cris> dp: ok then
12:13:20 <kaz> s/in that/at that/
12:13:44 <cris> dp: let's discuss this offline first
12:13:56 <cris> topic: Issues
12:14:08 <cris> subtopic: issue 219
12:14:17 <dape>  --> https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/issues/219
12:15:09 <cris> dp: we discussed about the convience of having readMultipleProperties operations in scripting
12:16:44 <kaz> s|219|219 Issue 219 - Discussion about read- write-/multipleproperties|
12:16:50 <kaz> s/-->/-> /
12:17:03 <cris> zoltan: we should support protocol features and simulate them when we can
12:17:43 <zkis> s/and simulate/and not simulate
12:18:19 <cris> dp: I had an use case for retrieving only a small set of properties
12:18:34 <cris> ... not sure if there are other use cases
12:18:52 <cris> jan: yeah retrieve multiple sensor data might be another
12:19:23 <cris> ... the problem is that there's already an example about how to indicate which properties you are looking form
12:19:36 <cris> q+
12:20:07 <cris> dp: the
12:20:25 <cris> s/the/the td spec might be a little bit not clear /
12:23:28 <JKRhb> q+
12:23:35 <cris> ack cris
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12:28:52 <cris_> cris: it might be a non-issue right now
12:29:01 <cris_> dp: there is no issue on the TD
12:29:50 <cris_> cris: why do we have the issue open?
12:29:58 <cris_> dp: we drop the operation a while ago
12:30:07 <cris_> ... we are missing something
12:31:20 <cris_> ... what is happing when we don't pass any property name?
12:32:01 <cris_> jan: in the scripting API are we interating through the properties?
12:32:12 <cris_> dp: no we retrive all with one request
12:32:57 <cris_> zoltan: we want to give devs the opportunity to optimize network interaction
12:33:26 <dape> q?
12:33:37 <JKRhb> ack JK
12:36:22 <cris_> dp: what I think is missing is also a writeAll reference in WriteMultiple
12:37:15 <cris_> zoltan: having writeAll in scripting API might be difficult cause we might need to check if the input contains really all the properties
12:40:00 <cris_> ... we should pick a clear semantic in the TD spec
12:42:13 <cris_> subtopic: issue 354
12:42:22 <cris_> dp: any news about the conformance section?
12:42:29 <cris_> kaz: I'm waiting
12:42:50 <cris_> subtopic: issue 360
12:43:08 <dape> --> https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/issues/360
12:44:51 <cris_> zoltan: Michael wants to move Interaction to the Architecture document
12:45:09 <cris_> ... we use it as a colloquial term to refer to Interaction Affordance
12:45:21 <kaz> i|any news|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/issues/354 Issue 354 - Conformance section necessity|
12:45:31 <kaz> i/-->/->/
12:45:47 <cris_> zoltan: probably we need more discussion with him
12:46:06 <kaz> s/360/360 Issue 360 - Consider moving terminology definition to WoT Architecture/
12:46:22 <cris_> subtopic: issue 355
12:46:26 <dape> -> Rename Use Cases section, https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/issues/355
12:47:01 <cris_> dp: long discussion, maybe we talked about renaming the Use Case section
12:47:40 <cris_> ... Michael's opinion is that this section is conflicting with the Use Case document
12:48:39 <cris_> ... we look at different options
12:48:48 <cris_> ... but now I'm a little bit lost
12:49:07 <cris_> jan: it doesn't seem to really conflict
12:49:31 <cris_> zoltan: they are from different contexts
12:49:38 <cris_> ... IMO is not a problem
12:49:38 <kaz> q+
12:49:52 <cris_> ... if it might confuse people we can use Scripting Use Cases
12:50:30 <cris_> dp: we resolved to put a text and link to the main document
12:50:48 <cris_> kaz: I'm asking to Philipp about these issues, I'll ping him again
12:50:52 <cris_> ... let's wait
12:50:57 <kaz> s/Philipp/Phiippe/
12:51:10 <kaz> s/to //
12:51:19 <cris_> subtopic: issue 361
12:51:21 <dape> -> Should we publish TS types also for ThingModel?, https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/issues/361
12:51:48 <cris_> dp: we are publishing types for scripting api and td types
12:52:50 <cris_> ... it is not real work from our side is just pushing the types to npm
12:53:11 <cris_> ... at the moment we are ignoring TM completely in the APIs
12:53:11 <cris_> ... any feedback
12:54:42 <cris_> cris: I would appreciate to have the types
12:54:52 <cris_> dp: I'm ok of having this
12:55:53 <cris_> zoltan: we might need an explainer to clarify why we have this folder
12:56:04 <cris_> ... it can be a md file
12:58:14 <cris_> ... it should contain a developer friendly explanation about it
13:00:02 <cris_> dp: please head over issue 352 if you have any idea about next charter topics
13:00:19 <cris_> ... should I put TMs there?
13:01:17 <kaz> [adjourned]
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