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19:53:16 <Matt_King> MEETING: ARIA and Assistive Technologies Community Group
19:53:25 <Matt_King> CHAIR: Matt King
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20:24:55 <jongunderson> https://github.com/w3c/aria-at/wiki/Running-a-Test-Plan
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20:40:15 <Jemma> agenda?
20:46:41 <Jemma> can someone share the url we are currently looking at?
20:48:38 <Laurence-Lewis> Looking through the document linked in the chat, I am trolling through the linked pages and can't work out where to find the test case 4 currently being discussed.
20:50:25 <Jemma> can someone share the url we are currently looking at?
20:50:43 <Jemma> sorry for duplicate copy
20:50:49 <Jemma> https://w3c.github.io/aria-at/build/review/disclosure-navigation.html
20:51:00 <Jemma> I meant to copy above for Alyssa.
21:05:24 <Matt_King> TOPIC: test conflict resolution
21:06:33 <Matt_King> Today the group discussed conflicts in thest results in the disclosure nav test plan for VoiceOver in Safari.
21:06:59 <Matt_King> Joe and Jon ran the test; there were 8 ifferences between Jon and Joe's results.
21:07:35 <Matt_King> s/ ifferences/ differences/
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21:08:58 <Matt_King> In test 4, navigate backward to the expanded disclosure button , Joe had to press ctrl-shift-opt-cmd-j 4 times. Expectation is that you should only press 1 time.
21:09:25 <Matt_King> If pressing 1 time does not yield correct result, then assertions should fail.
21:10:05 <Matt_King> Joe is re-running to see if that behavior persists. If so, will fail the test. If prolem with setup script, will raise GitHub issue against the test.
21:10:46 <Matt_King> Tests 9 and 10, Joe marked the unexpected behavior of excess verbosity and Jon did not.
21:11:17 <Matt_King> There is some redundancy in the speech out, "List of 4 items" and "1 of 4"
21:12:04 <Matt_King> Group discussed and agreed that the redundancy in this scenario should not be called out out as an unexpected behavior. Joe changed result.
21:12:46 <Matt_King> Test 14, there was an error in the test assertion.
21:13:04 <Matt_King> The test is to move to the first link in the dropdown.
21:13:37 <Matt_King> The test said the name "Administration" should be conveyed. It should have said the name "Overview" is conveyed.
21:14:17 <Matt_King> When these kind of problems occur, the expectation is that the tester not run the test but instead raise a GitHub issue calling out the problem with the test.
21:14:29 <Matt_King> TOPIC: Next meeting date
21:14:53 <Matt_King> The group will next meet in January. Matt ill send announcement.
21:15:04 <Matt_King> s/ ill/will/
21:15:27 <Matt_King> Expect Jan 13 (second Thursday).
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