19:07:36 RRSAgent has joined #auto 19:07:36 logging to https://www.w3.org/2021/12/14-auto-irc 19:07:38 RRSAgent, make logs Public 19:07:38 scribenick: ted 19:07:39 Meeting: Automotive Working Group Teleconference 19:07:42 Chair: Peter, Ted 19:07:58 Topic: BP and RPC call schedule 19:08:29 Ted: people regularly on Best Practices call agree to cancel those calls and fold topics as they arise in the regular WG calls 19:08:58 … RPC ramping up, more on COVESA side so Gunnar will create a weekly Zoom for it. I will cancel both WebEx 19:09:19 Topic: Optional server capabilities 19:09:22 https://github.com/w3c/automotive/pull/437 19:09:42 Ulf: I addressed comments raised earlier and see Erik's feedback 19:10:27 … we decided HTTP should be mandatory and which filters are expected/required 19:10:44 … as subscriptions are WS, that should be mandatory as well 19:11:28 Erik: subscriptions could be done over WS or MQTT so I guess it is more that you support one or the other 19:11:50 Ulf: or we could say WS should be mandatory, it was in VISS version 1 19:14:21 Ted: agree we need a mandatory protocol to get server capabilities and WS was part of v1 but why is HTTP mandatory? 19:14:49 Ulf: that was just my proposal in PR, it is the most widely deployed and known protocol 19:15:27 Erik: I understand the desire to have at least one protocol to find capabilities but it is possible for a client to test the protocols at known ports to find out 19:15:51 Ulf: agree that is possible 19:16:31 Peter: I don't have a strong opinion but it seems natural to have HTTP as mandatory in addition to WS 19:16:35 Ulf: I share that view 19:18:09 … unless there is pushback, that is what I will proceed with 19:18:12 Ted: no strong opinion either 19:23:38 Present+ Ulf, Peter, Carine, Erik, Gunnar, Isaac, MagnusG, Ted 19:25:27 Ulf presents latest version with points raised before (full names instead of abbreviations from Peter and include mandatory in capabilites, not just optional from Gunnar) 19:25:32 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/12/14-auto-minutes.html ted 19:26:15 Ulf: I noticed the response wasn't clear so made clear we are using the same syntax as we do for signals 19:32:30 … I should perhaps add anchors to sections for features 19:32:43 Ted: agree that is convenient for the reader 19:32:54 Ulf: I"ll add and then ask you to merge the PR 19:33:04 … no other issues nor PR are open 19:33:43 … with no open issues we are feature complete. in the New Year want a fuller review and suggest moving on in the REC process 19:35:01 Ted: and encourage the implementers we know about to provide feedback 19:35:45 Ulf: we can also start collecting input for features on a v3 19:37:17 Next meeting: 4 January 2022 19:37:22 Happy Holidays! 19:37:23 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/12/14-auto-minutes.html ted 21:50:45 Zakim has left #auto