IRC log of wot on 2021-12-08

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13:01:25 [kaz]
meeting: WoT-WG/IG
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present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, Ege_Korkan, Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_Koster
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topic: minutes
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-> https://www.w3.org/2021/12/01-wot-minutes.html Dec-1
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present+ Michael_Lagally, Sebastian_Kaebisch, Tetsushi_Matsuda, Tomoaki_Mizushima
13:08:02 [Ege]
mm: any changes to the minutes?
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topic: New Architecture/Profile slot
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-> https://doodle.com/poll/ht5q6rbzs7xcbtna?utm_source=poll&utm_medium=link Doodle for Architecture
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-> https://doodle.com/poll/ce9gh5zkqg6miiya?utm_source=poll&utm_medium=link Doodle for Profile
13:13:13 [Ege]
Topic: Architecture Doodle Poll
13:13:30 [Ege]
mm: not many overlaps even with not many people participating
13:13:45 [Ege]
ege: in one of the polls, the yellow checkbox option does not work
13:13:46 [kaz]
s/Topic: Architecture Doodle Poll//
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s|topic: New Architecture/Profile slot|Topic: Architecture Doodle Poll|
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topic: Chartering
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mm: no w3m meeting last week but there will be one today
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kaz: w3m can give us some short time to bridge any gaps
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present+ Zoltan_Kis
13:17:55 [kaz]
zakim, who is on the call?
13:17:55 [Zakim]
Present: Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, Ege_Korkan, Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_Koster, Michael_Lagally, Sebastian_Kaebisch, Tetsushi_Matsuda, Tomoaki_Mizushima, Zoltan_Kis
13:18:42 [kaz]
present+ Fady_Salama
13:18:49 [kaz]
rrsagent, make log public
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rrsagent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/12/08-wot-minutes.html kaz
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q?
13:19:43 [Ege]
mm: please update your wiki pages to have a short intro. There is an issue about it in the marketing repo
13:20:06 [Ege]
mm: we will talk about the testing but I have removed canonicalization and thus updated the report
13:20:31 [Ege]
fs: we have agreed on a plugfest date as well
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mm: if you have a conflict please notify us, we can change the date
13:21:23 [kaz]
rrsagent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/12/08-wot-minutes.html kaz
13:22:03 [kaz]
chair: McCool/Sebastian
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i/any changes to/scribenick: Ege/
13:22:22 [Ege]
mm: the ITU-T webinar has a public url now
13:22:36 [Ege]
... 3rd of February
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i/please update/topic: Marketing/
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i/we will/topic: Testing/
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rrsagent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/12/08-wot-minutes.html kaz
13:23:42 [kaz]
s/date as well/date (7-11 Feb 2021) as well/
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i/the ITU/topic: Liaison/
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rrsagent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/12/08-wot-minutes.html kaz
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i/ITU/subtopic: ITU-T/
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subtopic: ECHONET
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kaz: we're requested to provide a summary report from the TPAC Plugfest
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mm: let's talk about that during the Plugfest call today
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subtopic: OPC-UA
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i/we're/scribenick: kaz/
13:26:01 [Ege]
sk: we wanted to talk about this (OPCUA) in the use case call but had no time
13:26:13 [kaz]
i/we wanted/scribenick: Ege/
13:26:27 [Ege]
mm: as you know, farshid has joined edgex as an employee
13:26:27 [mlagally__]
q+
13:26:30 [kaz]
q+
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ack ml
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present+ Ryuichi_Matsukura
13:28:30 [Ege]
ml: we have look at your MR but saw that you are waiting for feedback
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q+
13:28:45 [Ege]
... please respect the deadlines though
13:28:48 [kaz]
s/look/looked/
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present+ David_Ezell
13:30:11 [Ege]
mm: I hadnt looked at it for a while so I am not sure if I am still aligned
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s/hadnt/hadn't/
13:32:07 [mlagally__]
https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/pull/158
13:32:26 [Ege]
mm: we should get representatives of the liaisons to review it
13:32:38 [kaz]
s/your MR/your MR on EdgeX use case/
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kaz: we need to clarify the edgex liaison
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mm: the general question is how WoT can be used in specific scenarios
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ege: what is the deadline 20.12 for?
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ml: anything substantial should come by then?
13:37:01 [kaz]
s/we need to clarify the edgex liaison/first note that I've just added a clarification to the minutes that Lagally's comment was about McCool's MR on EdgeX use case. And my own comment is that I sincerely would request we clarify the objectives for the OPC-UA liaison./
13:37:19 [Ege]
ml: everything is ready for review right now
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q?
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ack k
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ack e
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s/substantial/substantial for the Use Cases and Requirements document/
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ml: the document is about the requirements of others
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rrsagent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/12/08-wot-minutes.html kaz
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i/farshid/subtopic: EdgeX/
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Topic: TF reports
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zk: cristiano did a PR about how to handle multiple subscriptions
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i/what is the deadline/topic: Use Cases document review/
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mm: we looked at oauth2 flows
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rrsagent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/12/08-wot-minutes.html kaz
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i/cristiano/subtopic: Scripting API/
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i/we looked at/subtopic: Security/
13:41:11 [Ege]
mm: we have decided to not have official context extensions. so you are on your own
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i/we have/subtopic: Discovery/
13:42:01 [Ege]
... in discovery: we have made xpath informative
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ege: marketing: there was no one in the call, I have adjourned
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i/marketing/subtopic: Marketing
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s/no one/only Kaz and myself/
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subtopic: use cases
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ml: dave ezell presented the use cases
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s/use cases/Use cases/
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s/dave ezell/David Ezell/
13:46:43 [Ege]
ml: they have an interesting use case with a virtual thing that combines physical devices
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mm: we need two weeks of time between spec freeze and testing
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i/we need/subtopic: Plugfest/
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subtopic: TD
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sk: we will reach resolution to publish WD
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... also a PR for the newspace
13:50:53 [kaz]
i/we need/mm: got request from ECHONET to provide summary report from the TPAC Plugfest. We'll talk about that the Plugfest call later today./
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i/request/scribenick: kaz/
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i/need two/scribenick: Ege/
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q+
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-> https://www.w3.org/Guide/documentreview/ Wide review guide
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kaz: please read the guideline for wide review above again
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i/please/scribenick: kaz/
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ack k
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subtopic: architecture
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ml: we have decided to split the calls into 2
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s/arch/Arch/
13:57:11 [kaz]
-> https://doodle.com/poll/ht5q6rbzs7xcbtna?utm_source=poll&utm_medium=link doodle for Architecture
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-> https://doodle.com/poll/ce9gh5zkqg6miiya?utm_source=poll&utm_medium=link doodle for Profile
13:57:29 [Ege]
... we have agreed on informative and normative parts
13:58:11 [mlagally__]
https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/issues/152
13:58:18 [kaz]
s/... we have agreed on informative and normative parts/ml: we're identifying which sections are normative and which are informative./
13:58:23 [Ege]
... please comment on the issue 152
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s/... please/ml: please
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[main call adjourned; Plugfest call starts in 10 mins.]
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rrsagent, draft minutes
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