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13:01:25 <kaz> meeting: WoT-WG/IG
13:02:03 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, Ege_Korkan, Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_Koster
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13:06:09 <Ege> topic: minutes
13:06:20 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2021/12/01-wot-minutes.html Dec-1
13:06:49 <kaz> present+ Michael_Lagally, Sebastian_Kaebisch, Tetsushi_Matsuda, Tomoaki_Mizushima
13:08:02 <Ege> mm: any changes to the minutes?
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13:11:51 <kaz> topic: New Architecture/Profile slot
13:12:10 <kaz> -> https://doodle.com/poll/ht5q6rbzs7xcbtna?utm_source=poll&utm_medium=link Doodle for Architecture
13:12:20 <kaz> -> https://doodle.com/poll/ce9gh5zkqg6miiya?utm_source=poll&utm_medium=link Doodle for Profile
13:13:13 <Ege> Topic: Architecture Doodle Poll
13:13:30 <Ege> mm: not many overlaps even with not many people participating
13:13:45 <Ege> ege: in one of the polls, the yellow checkbox option does not work
13:13:46 <kaz> s/Topic: Architecture Doodle Poll//
13:14:37 <kaz> s|topic: New Architecture/Profile slot|Topic: Architecture Doodle Poll|
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13:16:04 <Ege> topic: Chartering
13:16:14 <Ege> mm: no w3m meeting last week but there will be one today
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13:17:34 <Ege> kaz: w3m can give us some short time to bridge any gaps
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13:17:42 <kaz> present+ Zoltan_Kis
13:17:55 <kaz> zakim, who is on the call?
13:17:55 <Zakim> Present: Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, Ege_Korkan, Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_Koster, Michael_Lagally, Sebastian_Kaebisch, Tetsushi_Matsuda, Tomoaki_Mizushima, Zoltan_Kis
13:18:42 <kaz> present+ Fady_Salama
13:18:49 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
13:18:55 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:18:55 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/12/08-wot-minutes.html kaz
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13:19:16 <mlagally__> q?
13:19:43 <Ege> mm: please update your wiki pages to have a short intro. There is an issue about it in the marketing repo
13:20:06 <Ege> mm: we will talk about the testing but I have removed canonicalization and thus updated the report
13:20:31 <Ege> fs: we have agreed on a plugfest date as well
13:21:19 <Ege> mm: if you have a conflict please notify us, we can change the date
13:21:23 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:21:23 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/12/08-wot-minutes.html kaz
13:22:03 <kaz> chair: McCool/Sebastian
13:22:20 <kaz> i/any changes to/scribenick: Ege/
13:22:22 <Ege> mm: the ITU-T webinar has a public url now
13:22:36 <Ege> ... 3rd of February
13:22:48 <kaz> i/please update/topic: Marketing/
13:23:02 <kaz> i/we will/topic: Testing/
13:23:05 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:23:05 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/12/08-wot-minutes.html kaz
13:23:42 <kaz> s/date as well/date (7-11 Feb 2021) as well/
13:24:21 <kaz> i/the ITU/topic: Liaison/
13:24:26 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:24:26 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/12/08-wot-minutes.html kaz
13:24:57 <kaz> i/ITU/subtopic: ITU-T/
13:25:01 <kaz> subtopic: ECHONET
13:25:20 <kaz> kaz: we're requested to provide a summary report from the TPAC Plugfest
13:25:34 <kaz> mm: let's talk about that during the Plugfest call today
13:25:38 <kaz> subtopic: OPC-UA
13:25:52 <kaz> i/we're/scribenick: kaz/
13:26:01 <Ege> sk: we wanted to talk about this (OPCUA) in the use case call but had no time
13:26:13 <kaz> i/we wanted/scribenick: Ege/
13:26:27 <Ege> mm: as you know, farshid has joined edgex as an employee
13:26:27 <mlagally__> q+
13:26:30 <kaz> q+
13:27:33 <kaz> ack ml
13:27:45 <kaz> present+ Ryuichi_Matsukura
13:28:30 <Ege> ml: we have look at your MR but saw that you are waiting for feedback
13:28:32 <Ege> q+
13:28:45 <Ege> ... please respect the deadlines though
13:28:48 <kaz> s/look/looked/
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13:29:45 <dezell> present+ David_Ezell
13:30:11 <Ege> mm: I hadnt looked at it for a while so I am not sure if I am still aligned
13:30:37 <kaz> s/hadnt/hadn't/
13:32:07 <mlagally__> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/pull/158
13:32:26 <Ege> mm: we should get representatives of the liaisons to review it
13:32:38 <kaz> s/your MR/your MR on EdgeX use case/
13:33:32 <Ege> kaz: we need to clarify the edgex liaison
13:34:08 <Ege> mm: the general question is how WoT can be used in specific scenarios
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13:35:42 <Ege> ege: what is the deadline 20.12 for?
13:35:52 <Ege> ml: anything substantial should come by then?
13:37:01 <kaz> s/we need to clarify the edgex liaison/first note that I've just added a clarification to the minutes that Lagally's comment was about McCool's MR on EdgeX use case. And my own comment is that I sincerely would request we clarify the objectives for the OPC-UA liaison./
13:37:19 <Ege> ml: everything is ready for review right now
13:37:39 <kaz> q?
13:37:41 <kaz> ack k
13:37:42 <kaz> ack e
13:38:24 <kaz> s/substantial/substantial for the Use Cases and Requirements document/
13:38:26 <Ege> ml: the document is about the requirements of others
13:38:37 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:38:37 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/12/08-wot-minutes.html kaz
13:39:17 <kaz> i/farshid/subtopic: EdgeX/
13:39:48 <Ege> Topic: TF reports
13:40:13 <Ege> zk: cristiano did a PR about how to handle multiple subscriptions
13:40:23 <kaz> i/what is the deadline/topic: Use Cases document review/
13:40:37 <Ege> mm: we looked at oauth2 flows
13:40:39 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:40:39 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/12/08-wot-minutes.html kaz
13:40:54 <kaz> i/cristiano/subtopic: Scripting API/
13:41:05 <kaz> i/we looked at/subtopic: Security/
13:41:11 <Ege> mm: we have decided to not have official context extensions. so you are on your own
13:41:52 <kaz> i/we have/subtopic: Discovery/
13:42:01 <Ege> ... in discovery: we have made xpath informative
13:42:18 <Ege> ege: marketing: there was no one in the call, I have adjourned
13:42:56 <kaz> i/marketing/subtopic: Marketing
13:43:06 <kaz> s/no one/only Kaz and myself/
13:43:35 <Ege> subtopic: use cases
13:43:45 <Ege> ml: dave ezell presented the use cases
13:46:13 <kaz> s/use cases/Use cases/
13:46:35 <kaz> s/dave ezell/David Ezell/
13:46:43 <Ege> ml: they have an interesting use case with a virtual thing that combines physical devices
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13:47:25 <Ege> mm: we need two weeks of time between spec freeze and testing
13:49:40 <kaz> i/we need/subtopic: Plugfest/
13:49:52 <Ege> subtopic: TD
13:50:09 <Ege> sk: we will reach resolution to publish WD
13:50:30 <Ege> ... also a PR for the newspace
13:50:53 <kaz> i/we need/mm: got request from ECHONET to provide summary report from the TPAC Plugfest. We'll talk about that the Plugfest call later today./
13:52:02 <kaz> i/request/scribenick: kaz/
13:52:15 <kaz> i/need two/scribenick: Ege/
13:54:11 <kaz> q+
13:54:25 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/Guide/documentreview/ Wide review guide
13:55:33 <kaz> kaz: please read the guideline for wide review above again
13:55:42 <kaz> i/please/scribenick: kaz/
13:55:50 <kaz> ack k
13:56:07 <Ege> subtopic: architecture
13:56:27 <Ege> ml: we have decided to split the calls into 2
13:56:30 <kaz> s/arch/Arch/
13:57:11 <kaz> -> https://doodle.com/poll/ht5q6rbzs7xcbtna?utm_source=poll&utm_medium=link doodle for Architecture
13:57:16 <kaz> -> https://doodle.com/poll/ce9gh5zkqg6miiya?utm_source=poll&utm_medium=link doodle for Profile
13:57:29 <Ege> ... we have agreed on informative and normative parts
13:58:11 <mlagally__> https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/issues/152
13:58:18 <kaz> s/... we have agreed on informative and normative parts/ml: we're identifying which sections are normative and which are informative./
13:58:23 <Ege> ... please comment on the issue 152
13:59:16 <kaz> s/... please/ml: please
13:59:29 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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14:00:08 <kaz> [main call adjourned; Plugfest call starts in 10 mins.]
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