Meeting minutes
minutes from VF2F
<McCool> proposal: publish TPAC 2021 WoT F2F and OpenDay minutes
RESOLUTION: publish TPAC 2021 WoT F2F and OpenDay minutes
McCool: objections?
resolution is approved
review minutes
<kaz> Nov-10
McCool: small corrections noted
Kaz: fixed
McCool: any objections to publish?
McCool: no objections
quick updates
McCool: talk about security on the 23rd
… going to talk about security in general and will add a blurb about WoT
McCool: review editors call discussion about publication schedule for the normative specs
McCool: won't be able to attend the calls early AM in North America but will defer to the rest of the participants
Lagally: the 10:00 UTC is only for this week, and we will look for a new time slot
Kaz: will allocate a new Webex now
McCool: need to update the WoT events on the web page
… need to discuss in the Marketing call
mm, ege: discussion on some proposals for the update
McCool: any objections to the discussed update?
Kaz: I'm OK with removing or shrinking the information if everybody agrees. However, those the links have been useful, maybe we can condense the list to comma-separated to reduce the scrolling problem
McCool: needs to be better navigation bar also
<McCool> proposal: restructure top of wiki pages to reduce space used for links to TF in every wiki; remove obsolete tfs
Lagally: there are other issues with navigation; the main page has a lot of confusion
… maybe we can move the links to old stuff to the bottom
McCool: moving to the bottom might make things harder to find
… but we can first remove the old content
… and make the list smaller
Kaz: let's create another issue to track what we're doing
McCool: let's break it down to single pieces
RESOLUTION: restructure top of wiki pages to reduce space used for links to TF in every wiki; remove obsolete tfs
McCool: any objections?
… approved
<McCool> mm: kaz will implement...
ACTION: kaz to work on the restructuring of links on the TF wikis
McCool: updates from Japan CG?
<Zakim> kaz, you wanted to react to kaz
Mizushima-san: completed the discussion (?)
McCool: prefer to add upcoming meeting to the W3C calendar, even if not an English-speaking event
LAGALLY: what is the status of the WoT CG?
Kaz: it's complicated; we can discuss next time
McCool: marketing group should be part of the CG, maybe could lead the CG
McCool: CG includes outreach and other overlap with marketing
Ege: second this
Kaz: one issue is web page maintenance being done outside the WG
IG charter
Kaz: current status is reviewing 2 comments from W3C management, and there are 2 issues to address these
McCool: I fixed some of these already, must have missed some instances
McCool: any objections to merging PR 1008?
McCool: there are some typos remaining, I can fix them
… we can merge on the next call
Lagally: should we talk about plans separately from past activities
Kaz: we should keep the description of past activities
McCool: PR 1006, we need to create an issue about descriptions on TF wiki pages
issue #231
WG extension and rechartering
McCool: not super critical due to the extension
… the issue is collecting topics on things to worry about
… please propose new topics for the new charter
… we're running out of time on the current charter, don't know if we have to do anything to resolve things
… we do need to finalize the proposal
Sebastian: we all agree on the proposal
Kaz: we are already submitting by email
McCool: no update on Smart Cities
… Joint call with ITU-T on Feb. 3rd
McCool: opc-ua waiting for follow-up meeting
TF reports
McCool: scripting
Daniel: discussing next charter, approved PRs and created new issues
… also scrip management
McCool: security - discussed best practices document and adding sections on onboarding and local networks, needs to relax TLS requirement for local networks
… reviewed a lot of specs, we should use IETF guidance around this
… discovery - main discussion is JSON path and leaning toward making JSON path informative
… currently missing regex so we can't even subset now
… leaves only Xpath and SPARQL
… the current proposal is no mandatory query mechanism
McCool: looking to JSON path in 2.0
… marketing
Ege: discussed PRs to update the web page
… navigation bar improvements and a context tab
Ege: talked about charter
… closed some superficial issues
Daniel: update events and time zone information
Ege: there is an issue about navigation to Events, currently it's not intuitive
Daniel: need a dedicated navigation item
McCool: use case TF
Lagally: had a call with Conexxus and will follow up next week
… common theme emerging is orchestration - may need a TD mechanism to describe orchestration
McCool: TD
Sebastian: working on issues around compatibility with TD 1.0
… optimistic about completing by end of November
… discussion about the new namespace and have a proposal for today's meeting
… remaining items like IANA registration, file extension
McCool: also need to update discovery for the new TD
McCool: architecture
Lagally: reviewed the extension plan, long discussion
… reviewing proposals for discovery in the profile
… open issue about missing information in the discovery spec
… 17 PRs and 20 issues, need to see which are blocking
McCool: want to remind everyone that there is a proposal from Ben about asynchronous decision process
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Kaz: we should wait until the next charter period to make changes
McCool: there needs to be a better writeup in the charter
… please review and comment on the PR
Lagally: there seems to be a recent change in expectations around the decision process
Lagally: some proposed changes are too big to review, etc.
McCool: need to put this on the agenda for next week priority
… please review the PR and prepare to discuss
… plugfest call at :13
… adjourned
<kaz> [main call adjourned; PlugFest call starts at :13 on this WebEx and #wot-pf IRC channel]