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11:04:19 <kaz> meeting: WoT Marketing
11:05:12 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Ege_Korkan, Michael_McCool
11:05:45 <kaz> present+ Tomoaki_Mizushima
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11:06:20 <kaz> present+ Fady_Salama
11:06:46 <kaz> present+ Philipp_Blum
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11:08:25 <kaz> scribenick: McCool
11:08:38 <McCool> topic: Minutes Review
11:08:59 <McCool> review Oct 19 minutes
11:09:14 <McCool> kaz: would also be useful to review Oct 27 and Oct 29 minutes from the F2F
11:09:32 <kaz> https://www.w3.org/2021/10/27-wot-minutes.html
11:09:33 <McCool> s/Oct 29/Oct 28/
11:09:40 <kaz> https://www.w3.org/2021/10/28-wot-minutes.html
11:10:22 <kaz> and https://www.w3.org/2021/10/19-wot-marketing-minutes.html
11:10:30 <McCool> ege: (reviews Oct 19 minutes)
11:13:11 <McCool> ege: PRs, explainer video still, logos on repos (asking Coralie), tooling/process to update calendar
11:13:36 <McCool> ... regarding calendars, if someone new joins they don't get the invites automatically
11:13:59 <McCool> ege: (reviews F2F minutes)
11:14:06 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2021/10/27-wot-minutes.html Oct-27
11:14:14 <McCool> ... for Oct 27, look at marketing session
11:14:27 <kaz> s/and ht/-> ht/
11:14:33 <McCool> ... agreed on splitting marketing call, discussed change in moderator
11:14:46 <kaz> s/19-wot-marketing-minutes.html/19-wot-marketing-minutes.html Oct-19/
11:14:56 <McCool> ... review of stats from twitter, etc
11:15:10 <McCool> ... but discussion of how to resolve lack of stats from web page visits
11:16:02 <McCool> ege: reviews oct 28 minutes
11:16:13 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2021/10/28-wot-minutes.html Oct-28
11:16:18 <McCool> ... how to communicate better with people outside IG/WG
11:16:28 <McCool> ... reviewed tools used by other organizations
11:16:53 <McCool> ... Lagally proposed adding email, cristiano proposed reddit
11:17:05 <McCool> ... Ege updated the slides to include these
11:17:27 <McCool> ... (see wot/PRESENTATIONS)
11:17:37 <McCool> ege: any objections to any of these?
11:17:47 <McCool> ... no objections, all approved
11:17:59 <McCool> topic: Chair Change
11:18:15 <kaz> q+
11:18:59 <McCool> proposal: Change the chair of Marketing TF from Fady Salama to Ege Korkan
11:19:20 <McCool> kaz: so why?
11:19:33 <kaz> ack k
11:19:46 <McCool> ege: needed someone for testing; fady is more technical now, so
11:20:43 <McCool> kaz: note that both are technically representing Siemens
11:22:26 <McCool> resolution: Change the chair of Marketing TF from Fady Salama to Ege Korkan (tentative; to be confirmed in main call)
11:22:34 <McCool> topic: PRs
11:22:43 <McCool> ege: see PR1004
11:23:14 <Ege> https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/1004/files
11:23:32 <McCool> ... in wot repo, updates to presentation, to fix names and update marketing slides
11:23:36 <McCool> ... (merged)
11:23:51 <kaz> s/... in wot/ege: in wot
11:24:03 <McCool> ege: in wot-marketing, have several more PRs
11:24:13 <McCool> ege: PR 212
11:24:26 <McCool> ... remove links when there is no detail page to avoid 404 errors
11:24:29 <kaz> agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Marketing_WebConf#Nov._2.2C_2021
11:24:56 <kaz> i/see PR1004/subtopic: wot repo PR 1004/
11:25:16 <kaz> i/PR 212/subtopic: PR 212/
11:26:31 <Ege> https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/pull/212
11:26:32 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
11:26:37 <McCool> mm: what we really should do is create detail pages, but this is ok for now
11:26:37 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
11:26:39 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/11/02-wot-marketing-minutes.html kaz
11:26:42 <McCool> ege: ok, merging
11:26:51 <Ege> https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/issues/208
11:26:54 <McCool> ... closes issue 208
11:27:09 <McCool> eg: now PR213
11:27:26 <kaz> Chair: Fady, Ege
11:27:35 <McCool> ... fixing DR's contact info with a proper link
11:27:50 <kaz> q?
11:28:05 <McCool> ege: merged
11:28:12 <Ege> https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/issues/209
11:28:15 <Ege> https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/pull/213
11:28:17 <McCool> ... closing isse 209
11:28:55 <McCool> ege: PR 214, but TDD implementations in a different section
11:29:05 <McCool> mm: concur, good idea
11:29:11 <McCool> ege: merging
11:29:11 <kaz> i/now PR213/subtopic: PR 213 and Issue 209/
11:29:14 <Ege> https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/pull/214
11:29:19 <Ege> https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/issues/210
11:29:22 <McCool> ... closing issue 210
11:29:32 <kaz> i/PR 214/subtopic: PR 214 and Issue 210/
11:29:33 <McCool> ege: PR215
11:29:46 <kaz> i/PR215/subtopic: PR 215/
11:29:49 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
11:29:49 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/11/02-wot-marketing-minutes.html kaz
11:29:57 <McCool> ... daniel changed nav bar, WG/IG/CG titles only make sense to W3C, also long
11:30:26 <McCool> ... changed to put WG, IG, CG under "Standards"
11:32:14 <kaz> q+
11:32:34 <McCool> mm: reorg is fine, but we should discuss the name "Standards", sounds like it links to documents
11:32:44 <McCool> ... perhaps should be "Groups"
11:32:51 <McCool> kaz: maybe put CG under there too
11:33:04 <kaz> ack k
11:35:00 <McCool> kaz: Activities is also a problem, sounds like an event, but currently links to TFs
11:35:21 <McCool> mm: agree, TFs should probably be linked from WG pages, etc.
11:36:17 <McCool> ... Activities -> Events would be clearer also
11:36:21 <Ege> https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/issues/216
11:36:32 <McCool> ege: creates issue 216 with these considerations
11:36:42 <McCool> ege: let
11:36:55 <McCool> ege: let's postpone this PR until we make those updates
11:37:43 <McCool> ege: another issue is explainer video did not link to the player without refreshing the page
11:38:05 <McCool> ... was an actual problem with streamfizz platform, fixed
11:38:11 <kaz> i/another/subtopic: Issue 211/
11:38:11 <Ege> https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/issues/211
11:38:16 <McCool> ... issue 211, now fixed, can be closed
11:38:34 <kaz> s/... issue 211/ege: issue 211/
11:38:46 <McCool> ege: issue 206,twitter, if go to profile, empty background
11:39:02 <McCool> ... what image can we put here?
11:39:11 <kaz> i/issue 206/subtopic: issue 206/
11:39:18 <McCool> ... did a little poll for some images
11:39:56 <McCool> ... need something wide, if square gets cropped in an annoying way
11:43:28 <McCool> mm: since there are new images, and cropping is needed, so we probably should redo the poll
11:44:06 <McCool> ege: ok, let's try them all now
11:45:42 <McCool> ... going to do another poll, see following issue
11:45:57 <Ege> https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/issues/206
11:49:13 <McCool> ege: issue 203, restructuring of website; still need to fix nav bar
11:49:20 <McCool> ege: issue 190
11:49:31 <McCool> ... wot logo on repo READMEs
11:49:34 <kaz> i/203/subtopic: Issue 203/
11:50:01 <kaz> i|203|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/issues/203 [website] Possible restructuring of website #203|
11:50:03 <McCool> ... Coralie asked what href to use for it...
11:50:11 <kaz> i/190/subtopic: Issue 190/
11:50:12 <McCool> mm: would be nice to link to the main web site
11:50:31 <kaz> q+
11:50:55 <kaz> i|190|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/issues/190 WoT logo on repository READMEs|
11:51:24 <McCool> ege: have to decide on alignment
11:51:56 <McCool> ... also, I think the aligned version is a little small, and if it's going to be small we should drop the text
11:52:53 <kaz> q?
11:52:54 <McCool> mm: normally I prefer aligned, but it has to be big to be readable, and if it's big centered makes more sense
11:53:08 <McCool> pb: I do like the larger centered one
11:53:49 <McCool> kaz: have a little different opinion, not excited about logo; even W3C logo is not very big on those pages
11:54:10 <McCool> ... sometimes people use smartphones to access pages, large logos are a nuisance
11:54:37 <McCool> ... small logo would be better, if small characters are a problem, can use logo without text
11:54:53 <McCool> ege: if used with phone, have to click to open
11:55:03 <McCool> ... and readmes mostly useless for many people
11:55:11 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org e.g., W3C top page
11:56:36 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/WoT/ and the WoT Welcome page
11:57:22 <McCool> mm: should look at phone, see if there are controls we can use, and also create an official logo without text if we want to make it small
11:58:43 <McCool> mm: another option is to make it large and wide, drop the text; then on phone, will be full width, but easy to scroll past
12:00:41 <McCool> ... or move the text to the right, rather than top and bottom
12:01:08 <McCool> ege: don't think it will look good on mobile
12:01:18 <McCool> mm: suggest we prototype
12:01:42 <kaz> [adjourned]
12:01:47 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:01:47 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/11/02-wot-marketing-minutes.html kaz