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18:04:29 <Matt_King> MEETING: ARIA ad Assistive Tech Community Group
18:04:42 <Matt_King> CAIR: Seth
18:04:49 <Matt_King> CHAIR: Seth
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18:06:05 <Matt_King> TOPIC: App development sprint update
18:07:10 <Matt_King> Seth: Status of recent deploy?
18:07:47 <Matt_King> Rich: Updates in sandbox only at this time. Deploy sometime after this meeting
18:08:26 <Matt_King> Seth: Reports updated with disclaimer
18:08:28 <s3ththompson> https://aria-at-app-sandbox.bocoup.com/reports/1
18:10:34 <Matt_King> mk: implementation looks great!
18:10:43 <Matt_King> Seth: also have public test queue
18:11:05 <Matt_King> queue is slightly modified compared to logged-in user
18:11:23 <Matt_King> Reduced actions.
18:11:33 <Matt_King> Can open any test plan n runner.
18:12:01 <Matt_King> Can interact with form, but submit is disabled, and start over is disabled.
18:12:28 <Matt_King> Haven't yet added copy about how to get involved, explaining why the buttons are disabled.
18:13:41 <Matt_King> Also made progress on AX issues.
18:14:19 <Matt_King> Have fixed 26 issues raised by PAC.
18:15:03 <Matt_King> Plan to collaborate with PAC on verification of quality of fixes.
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18:16:54 <Matt_King> Seth: we have fixed the filters on the test listing page
18:22:32 <Matt_King> MK: When sandbox deployed, we will then move 4 cards to done in the project.
18:22:49 <Matt_King> TOPIC: Plan for days remaining in app development in 2021
18:22:56 <s3ththompson> https://github.com/w3c/aria-at-app/issues/331
18:22:59 <Matt_King> Seth: 11 days remaining
18:23:57 <Matt_King> Rich: Remaining work: AX validation, copy for public viewers of runner, update home page copy
18:48:03 <Matt_King> Discussion of how to provide copy to public viewers of runner; Matt and Seth collaborate on copy.
18:48:35 <Matt_King> Protect most of 11 dqays for responding to user feedback.
18:50:30 <Matt_King> TOPIC: Home puage updat
18:51:05 <Matt_King> Matt working on copy; will review structure with Seth on Monday.
18:51:27 <Matt_King> Have copy ready for review on Mon Nov 1.
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19:00:34 <Matt_King> TOPIC: Community Group Meeting Agenda
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19:00:43 <Matt_King> CHAIR: Matt King
19:05:11 <Matt_King> TOPIC: Running tests
19:07:53 <s3ththompson> scribe: s3ththompson
19:07:57 <s3ththompson> present+
19:09:35 <s3ththompson> Matt: is anyone else available to do select-only combobox? on nvda with firefox?
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19:10:57 <s3ththompson> Matt: want to have test plans tested for sitetech global
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19:12:58 <s3ththompson> Matt: before sitetech global we might even add more test plans to the queue, but in the interim, we'd like to at least get these 4 added to the reports page
19:14:08 <s3ththompson> JoeHumbert: i can do additional select-only combobox
19:19:48 <s3ththompson> Matt: we also want to save a bit of time to be able to fix conflicts before publishing
19:20:46 <s3ththompson> Matt: John is signed up for a number of tests and has made a lot of progress
19:20:53 <JoeHumbert> present+
19:21:22 <s3ththompson> Matt: in future weeks, we'll keep checking in and as we get multiple results for a single plan we can discuss issues and resolve.
19:35:43 <s3ththompson> Hadi: I sent some feedback over email to the mailing list.
19:37:12 <s3ththompson> James: We need to update test plan instructions to reference the fact that there is no longer an automatic setup script. i can look into this
19:37:33 <s3ththompson> Michael Fairchild: i have a question: how do i view test plans without ARIA-AT App? homepage link was broken
19:37:45 <s3ththompson> James: link is https://w3c.github.io/aria-at/build/
19:37:51 <s3ththompson> Matt: we will fix homepage link
19:38:04 <s3ththompson> TOPIC: Sitetech Global
19:38:22 <s3ththompson> Matt: happy to announce that we will present at Sitetech Global on December 1 and 2
19:39:01 <s3ththompson> Matt: we will have a keynote presentation that will include me and michael fairchild as co-chairs of this CG group and my manager representing facebook (as sponsor)
19:39:16 <s3ththompson> Matt: we will have other sessions as well and a video trailer that will be about 4 minutes that we can share
19:39:44 <s3ththompson> Matt: sessions will be moderated by chancey fleet
19:42:13 <Matt_King> project for app update: https://github.com/w3c/aria-at-app/projects/1
19:42:51 <s3ththompson> Matt: we will soon have public view of test queue and test runner
19:43:30 <s3ththompson> Matt: also have a disclaimer that we will publish, that says that published report data is unapproved because it is still in candidate phase
19:44:32 <s3ththompson> Matt: also a number of accessibility fixes
19:44:39 <s3ththompson> Matt: still working on updates to the homepage copy
19:45:59 <s3ththompson> Matt: PAC is working on a page with metrics that shares more data about our coverage of APG
19:48:59 <s3ththompson> TOPIC: raising issues in reports & new issue template
19:50:37 <s3ththompson> James: 1. can we change title to just "Feedback: <Issue>"
19:50:57 <s3ththompson> James: 2. i'd also like to know which plan and which test it's in, right near the top
19:52:21 <s3ththompson> James: "Feedback: Navigate to a list... (Test Plan Name, #5)"
19:53:56 <s3ththompson> Matt: can we make template more clear?
19:54:09 <s3ththompson> Jon: i feel like description should be first since people want to start typing at the top
19:55:04 <s3ththompson> Matt: maybe we need the words "describe your issue here"... do we need a prompt that stays as a header? or placeholder text that users would replace?
19:55:28 <s3ththompson> Jon: just moving description to the top would help
19:58:00 <s3ththompson> Matt: level 4 headings make it easier to skip to comments
19:58:56 <s3ththompson> James: let's add HTML comment so it doesn't get rendered with instructions to not modify below certain line
19:59:45 <s3ththompson> Matt: Heading "Describe the problem"
20:01:09 <s3ththompson> Matt: let's save form idea for after this, but we should look into it in the future as an opportunity
20:01:18 <s3ththompson> James: here's an example:
20:01:22 <s3ththompson> ```
20:01:32 <s3ththompson> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/KB62SIXd/
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