IRC log of wot on 2021-10-20

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meeting: WoT-IG/WG
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present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, Kunihiko_Toumura
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scribe: dape
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present+ Daniel_Peintner, Tomoaki_Mizushima, Cristiano_Aguzzi
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present+ Michael_Lagally, Tetsushi_Matsuda
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TOPIC: Minutes Review
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SUBTOPIC: Oct-13 main call
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-> https://www.w3.org/2021/10/13-wot-minutes.html
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MMC: minutes look good
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.. objection to publish?
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-> none -> approved
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SUBTOPIC: Oct-14 Open Day call
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-> https://www.w3.org/2021/10/14-wot-minutes.html
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MMC/Kaz: minor typo fixes
12:09:28 [cris_]
@kaz my surname was missplelled, is Aguzzi
12:10:31 [kaz]
fixed
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Kaz: fixing typos...
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s/objection to publish?/objections to publish?
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MMC: any objections?
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--> none -> minutes approved
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TOPIC: Editors call today
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... low turnout due to conflicts
12:16:39 [kaz]
i/Editors/link for the new TD issue 1251 initiated by the ECHONET discussion also added./
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MMC: discussed how to make progress
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present+ Ryuichi_Matsukura
12:16:52 [dape]
... Kaz's generated issue as the starting point
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-> https://github.com/w3c/wot/issues/996
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MMC: use this issue as central hub
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... link other smaller issues
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... Doodle poll for new timeslot
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-> https://doodle.com/poll/u6syz6yixk44hnak
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MMC: Could have special calls in smaller groups
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... need to work on coordination
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TOPIC: Events
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SUBTOPIC: IEEE Workshop on IoT Interoperability and the Web of Things - 11 Jan 2022
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-> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wot-ig/2021Oct/0001.html
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MMC: need to engage with W3C liaison team
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... dateline passed
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... Submission deadline: October 15th, 2021 *November 8th, 2021 (EXTENDED)*
12:20:18 [cris_]
q+
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ML: Topic of conference is interoperability
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... profile work is of interest
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... I am working on a draft
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... will approach some people individually
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... not sure if it is IEEE workshop or co-located
12:21:56 [kaz]
q+
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CA: Held in conjunction with the IEEE
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ack cr
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... i am not organizer
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... Luca S. and Matthias K. are organizing it
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MMC: deadline is just 2 weeks away
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... next week is TPAC
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s/dateline/deadline
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... let's have a contribution... we should be present
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ML: I think I can work on a paper in time
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MMC: Thanks!
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Kaz: I am talking with liaison team as well
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... let's wait for their response
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SUBTOPIC: Japanese CG
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TM: we are discussing topics for Oct 26
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.. at TPAC
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s/think I can work on a paper in time/I commit to provide a paper within the deadline and will reach out to relevant people/
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MMC: Takenaka in Japanese CG is one more topic
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s/reach out to/reach out and coordinate with/
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TOPIC: Scheduling
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MMC: need to look at our deliverables
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... update milestones
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q+
12:27:45 [kaz]
ack k
12:27:46 [dape]
... on Oct 27 at TPAC I planned schedule revision
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... 15 minutes only
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... maybe move it to Oct 26, where we would have 1 hour slot
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... any objections to re-schedule?
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q?
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ML: Not sure about the plan
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MMC: re-schedule it from Oct 27 to Oct 26
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q+
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... will send out email to make everyone aware
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q?
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ack ml
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... on Oct 26 we could have 30 minutes for schedule discussions
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s/for schedule discussions /for schedule discussions and charters
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TOPIC: TPAC 2021 vF2F status and planning
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q-
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MMC: need to make sure schedule for F2F makes sense
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... CVevent do not contain WebEx invites
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... will setup proper invites
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... everyone needs to register
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... I think OPC-UA is not happening
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... w.r.t. T2TRG and DID got merged
12:35:29 [McCool]
https://github.com/w3c/wot/issues/987
12:36:11 [dape]
... would like top discuss signature, key distribution, discovery, ..
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... there also many sub-issues
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... please link related issues
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... meeting is on Oct 28
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... any comment about overall agenda?
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ML: profile on Oct 27 could benefit having the additional 15 minutes
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MMC: OPC-UA will take place on Oct 28
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... missed that before
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... under wot-testing I created a PR#197 with test reorganization
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... grouped things by implementations
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... was not sure in some case
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... e.g., do some use node-wot as code base?
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... if so.. results should be merged
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q?
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... no split across organization any longer
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present+ Michael_Koster
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rrsagent, make log public
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MMC: I also updated implementation report
12:41:32 [kaz]
rrsagent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/10/20-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:42:05 [dape]
... includes 10 implementations
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.. lot of implementations did not provide manual assertions
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... need to do data... collect data
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TOPIC: Charters
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s/... low turnout/MMC: low turnout/
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MMC: still to finish some work
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rrsagent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/10/20-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:43:14 [dape]
... should be read by next week
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TOPIC: Smart Cities
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MMC: Two breakout session during TPAC
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... Oct 18, 15UTC
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... Oct 21, 14UTC
12:43:47 [McCool]
Edge Computing for the Web
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Friday, October 22, 2021 from 11:00 AM to 12:00 PM (atlantic time...)
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q?
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Kaz: Suggest people to join
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... we were getting great comments ... on the first day already
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MMC: We need to involve more cities
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... ping Singapore ?
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... otherwise good discussion
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TOPIC: Testing needed prior to CR transition
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MMC: currently working on TD topics
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TOPIC: TF Reports
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MMC: Did have discovery and security call
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... talked about mini query mechanism .. not JSON path
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... based on keywords
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... filter on dates
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... more complicated stuff should go to XPath or SPARQL
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... we are still discussing this topic
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... need to resolve that before CR
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DP: Scripting took place
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... talked about recent issues we found
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Kaz: Marketing
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.. discussion about remaining issues
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... website
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... improvement of wiki information
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ML: Use cases
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... skipped call yesterday due to low attendance
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... got new use case from new contributor
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s/improvement of wiki information/some discussion about improvement of wiki information, but need further discussion/
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... about digital microscope
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Kaz: TD Call
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cancelled last week
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... short call today (1h only)
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MMC: PlugFest call
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s/cancelled/... cancelled/
12:53:20 [dape]
... should look into manual assertions
12:53:48 [McCool]
https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/pull/197
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... everyone should provide csv
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MMC: Ege will run TD call today later
12:54:31 [kaz]
i/PlugFest call/topic: Plugfest call and TD call today/
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... Sebastian cannot make it today
12:54:35 [kaz]
rrsagent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/10/20-wot-minutes.html kaz
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MMC: ITU-T document is still something I need to finish
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i/ITU-T/topic: AOB?/
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... if you are interested please get in touch with me
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rrsagent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/10/20-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:56:36 [dape]
MMC: Note: PF call starts in 10 minutes
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rrsagent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/10/20-wot-minutes.html kaz
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