IRC log of wot on 2021-10-20
Timestamps are in UTC.
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- logging to https://www.w3.org/2021/10/20-wot-irc
- 12:01:26 [kaz]
- meeting: WoT-IG/WG
- 12:01:35 [ktoumura]
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- present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, Kunihiko_Toumura
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- scribe: dape
- 12:04:17 [kaz]
- present+ Daniel_Peintner, Tomoaki_Mizushima, Cristiano_Aguzzi
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- 12:07:07 [kaz]
- present+ Michael_Lagally, Tetsushi_Matsuda
- 12:07:17 [dape]
- TOPIC: Minutes Review
- 12:07:28 [dape]
- SUBTOPIC: Oct-13 main call
- 12:07:34 [dape]
- -> https://www.w3.org/2021/10/13-wot-minutes.html
- 12:07:42 [dape]
- MMC: minutes look good
- 12:08:18 [dape]
- .. objection to publish?
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- -> none -> approved
- 12:08:35 [dape]
- SUBTOPIC: Oct-14 Open Day call
- 12:08:40 [dape]
- -> https://www.w3.org/2021/10/14-wot-minutes.html
- 12:09:15 [cris_]
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- MMC/Kaz: minor typo fixes
- 12:09:28 [cris_]
- @kaz my surname was missplelled, is Aguzzi
- 12:10:31 [kaz]
- fixed
- 12:11:15 [dape]
- Kaz: fixing typos...
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- s/objection to publish?/objections to publish?
- 12:15:45 [dape]
- MMC: any objections?
- 12:15:52 [dape]
- --> none -> minutes approved
- 12:16:12 [dape]
- TOPIC: Editors call today
- 12:16:25 [dape]
- ... low turnout due to conflicts
- 12:16:39 [kaz]
- i/Editors/link for the new TD issue 1251 initiated by the ECHONET discussion also added./
- 12:16:41 [dape]
- MMC: discussed how to make progress
- 12:16:46 [kaz]
- present+ Ryuichi_Matsukura
- 12:16:52 [dape]
- ... Kaz's generated issue as the starting point
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- -> https://github.com/w3c/wot/issues/996
- 12:17:15 [dape]
- MMC: use this issue as central hub
- 12:17:26 [dape]
- ... link other smaller issues
- 12:17:37 [dape]
- ... Doodle poll for new timeslot
- 12:17:48 [dape]
- -> https://doodle.com/poll/u6syz6yixk44hnak
- 12:18:13 [dape]
- MMC: Could have special calls in smaller groups
- 12:19:00 [matsuda]
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- 12:19:06 [dape]
- ... need to work on coordination
- 12:19:14 [dape]
- TOPIC: Events
- 12:19:23 [dape]
- SUBTOPIC: IEEE Workshop on IoT Interoperability and the Web of Things - 11 Jan 2022
- 12:19:30 [dape]
- -> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wot-ig/2021Oct/0001.html
- 12:19:47 [dape]
- MMC: need to engage with W3C liaison team
- 12:20:04 [dape]
- ... dateline passed
- 12:20:17 [dape]
- ... Submission deadline: October 15th, 2021 *November 8th, 2021 (EXTENDED)*
- 12:20:18 [cris_]
- q+
- 12:20:35 [dape]
- ML: Topic of conference is interoperability
- 12:20:43 [dape]
- ... profile work is of interest
- 12:20:53 [dape]
- ... I am working on a draft
- 12:21:10 [dape]
- ... will approach some people individually
- 12:21:25 [dape]
- ... not sure if it is IEEE workshop or co-located
- 12:21:56 [kaz]
- q+
- 12:21:56 [dape]
- CA: Held in conjunction with the IEEE
- 12:21:58 [kaz]
- ack cr
- 12:22:05 [dape]
- ... i am not organizer
- 12:22:35 [dape]
- ... Luca S. and Matthias K. are organizing it
- 12:23:05 [dape]
- MMC: deadline is just 2 weeks away
- 12:23:12 [dape]
- ... next week is TPAC
- 12:23:30 [dape]
- s/dateline/deadline
- 12:24:14 [dape]
- ... let's have a contribution... we should be present
- 12:24:34 [dape]
- ML: I think I can work on a paper in time
- 12:24:38 [dape]
- MMC: Thanks!
- 12:24:53 [dape]
- Kaz: I am talking with liaison team as well
- 12:25:05 [dape]
- ... let's wait for their response
- 12:25:21 [dape]
- SUBTOPIC: Japanese CG
- 12:25:43 [dape]
- TM: we are discussing topics for Oct 26
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- .. at TPAC
- 12:25:58 [mlagally]
- s/think I can work on a paper in time/I commit to provide a paper within the deadline and will reach out to relevant people/
- 12:26:28 [dape]
- MMC: Takenaka in Japanese CG is one more topic
- 12:26:49 [mlagally]
- s/reach out to/reach out and coordinate with/
- 12:27:00 [dape]
- TOPIC: Scheduling
- 12:27:11 [dape]
- MMC: need to look at our deliverables
- 12:27:20 [dape]
- ... update milestones
- 12:27:39 [mlagally]
- q+
- 12:27:45 [kaz]
- ack k
- 12:27:46 [dape]
- ... on Oct 27 at TPAC I planned schedule revision
- 12:27:52 [dape]
- ... 15 minutes only
- 12:28:15 [dape]
- ... maybe move it to Oct 26, where we would have 1 hour slot
- 12:28:29 [dape]
- ... any objections to re-schedule?
- 12:28:31 [kaz]
- q?
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- ML: Not sure about the plan
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- MMC: re-schedule it from Oct 27 to Oct 26
- 12:29:32 [kaz]
- q+
- 12:29:48 [dape]
- ... will send out email to make everyone aware
- 12:29:50 [dape]
- q?
- 12:29:54 [kaz]
- ack ml
- 12:30:30 [dape]
- ... on Oct 26 we could have 30 minutes for schedule discussions
- 12:30:54 [dape]
- s/for schedule discussions /for schedule discussions and charters
- 12:31:57 [dape]
- TOPIC: TPAC 2021 vF2F status and planning
- 12:32:06 [kaz]
- q-
- 12:32:25 [dape]
- MMC: need to make sure schedule for F2F makes sense
- 12:33:06 [dape]
- ... CVevent do not contain WebEx invites
- 12:33:15 [dape]
- ... will setup proper invites
- 12:33:40 [dape]
- ... everyone needs to register
- 12:33:56 [dape]
- ... I think OPC-UA is not happening
- 12:34:40 [dape]
- ... w.r.t. T2TRG and DID got merged
- 12:35:29 [McCool]
- https://github.com/w3c/wot/issues/987
- 12:36:11 [dape]
- ... would like top discuss signature, key distribution, discovery, ..
- 12:36:20 [dape]
- ... there also many sub-issues
- 12:36:34 [dape]
- ... please link related issues
- 12:36:42 [dape]
- ... meeting is on Oct 28
- 12:37:01 [dape]
- ... any comment about overall agenda?
- 12:37:49 [dape]
- ML: profile on Oct 27 could benefit having the additional 15 minutes
- 12:38:09 [dape]
- MMC: OPC-UA will take place on Oct 28
- 12:38:23 [dape]
- ... missed that before
- 12:39:24 [dape]
- ... under wot-testing I created a PR#197 with test reorganization
- 12:39:40 [dape]
- ... grouped things by implementations
- 12:39:54 [dape]
- ... was not sure in some case
- 12:40:09 [dape]
- ... e.g., do some use node-wot as code base?
- 12:40:20 [dape]
- ... if so.. results should be merged
- 12:40:36 [kaz]
- q?
- 12:40:40 [dape]
- ... no split across organization any longer
- 12:40:43 [kaz]
- present+ Michael_Koster
- 12:41:26 [kaz]
- rrsagent, make log public
- 12:41:26 [dape]
- MMC: I also updated implementation report
- 12:41:32 [kaz]
- rrsagent, draft minutes
- 12:41:32 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/10/20-wot-minutes.html kaz
- 12:42:05 [dape]
- ... includes 10 implementations
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- .. lot of implementations did not provide manual assertions
- 12:42:40 [dape]
- ... need to do data... collect data
- 12:42:59 [dape]
- TOPIC: Charters
- 12:43:07 [kaz]
- s/... low turnout/MMC: low turnout/
- 12:43:08 [dape]
- MMC: still to finish some work
- 12:43:10 [kaz]
- rrsagent, draft minutes
- 12:43:10 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/10/20-wot-minutes.html kaz
- 12:43:14 [dape]
- ... should be read by next week
- 12:43:19 [dape]
- TOPIC: Smart Cities
- 12:43:28 [dape]
- MMC: Two breakout session during TPAC
- 12:43:33 [dape]
- ... Oct 18, 15UTC
- 12:43:39 [dape]
- ... Oct 21, 14UTC
- 12:43:47 [McCool]
- Edge Computing for the Web
- 12:44:17 [McCool]
- Friday, October 22, 2021 from 11:00 AM to 12:00 PM (atlantic time...)
- 12:44:31 [dape]
- q?
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- Kaz: Suggest people to join
- 12:45:11 [dape]
- ... we were getting great comments ... on the first day already
- 12:45:19 [dape]
- MMC: We need to involve more cities
- 12:45:40 [dape]
- ... ping Singapore ?
- 12:45:51 [dape]
- ... otherwise good discussion
- 12:46:10 [dsr]
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- TOPIC: Testing needed prior to CR transition
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- MMC: currently working on TD topics
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- TOPIC: TF Reports
- 12:47:43 [dape]
- MMC: Did have discovery and security call
- 12:48:03 [dape]
- ... talked about mini query mechanism .. not JSON path
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- ... based on keywords
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- ... filter on dates
- 12:48:42 [dape]
- ... more complicated stuff should go to XPath or SPARQL
- 12:49:03 [dape]
- ... we are still discussing this topic
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- ... need to resolve that before CR
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- DP: Scripting took place
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- ... talked about recent issues we found
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- Kaz: Marketing
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- .. discussion about remaining issues
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- ... website
- 12:51:18 [dape]
- ... improvement of wiki information
- 12:51:23 [dape]
- ML: Use cases
- 12:51:40 [dape]
- ... skipped call yesterday due to low attendance
- 12:51:56 [dape]
- ... got new use case from new contributor
- 12:52:26 [kaz]
- s/improvement of wiki information/some discussion about improvement of wiki information, but need further discussion/
- 12:52:36 [dape]
- ... about digital microscope
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- Kaz: TD Call
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- cancelled last week
- 12:52:56 [dape]
- ... short call today (1h only)
- 12:53:04 [dape]
- MMC: PlugFest call
- 12:53:08 [kaz]
- s/cancelled/... cancelled/
- 12:53:20 [dape]
- ... should look into manual assertions
- 12:53:48 [McCool]
- https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/pull/197
- 12:53:56 [dape]
- ... everyone should provide csv
- 12:54:21 [dape]
- MMC: Ege will run TD call today later
- 12:54:31 [kaz]
- i/PlugFest call/topic: Plugfest call and TD call today/
- 12:54:31 [dape]
- ... Sebastian cannot make it today
- 12:54:35 [kaz]
- rrsagent, draft minutes
- 12:54:35 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/10/20-wot-minutes.html kaz
- 12:55:40 [dape]
- MMC: ITU-T document is still something I need to finish
- 12:55:49 [kaz]
- i/ITU-T/topic: AOB?/
- 12:55:58 [dape]
- ... if you are interested please get in touch with me
- 12:56:09 [kaz]
- rrsagent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/10/20-wot-minutes.html kaz
- 12:56:36 [dape]
- MMC: Note: PF call starts in 10 minutes
- 13:09:26 [kaz]
- rrsagent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/10/20-wot-minutes.html kaz
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