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12:01:26 <kaz> meeting: WoT-IG/WG
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12:04:01 <dape> scribe: dape
12:04:17 <kaz> present+ Daniel_Peintner, Tomoaki_Mizushima, Cristiano_Aguzzi
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12:07:07 <kaz> present+ Michael_Lagally, Tetsushi_Matsuda
12:07:17 <dape> TOPIC: Minutes Review
12:07:28 <dape> SUBTOPIC: Oct-13 main call
12:07:34 <dape> -> https://www.w3.org/2021/10/13-wot-minutes.html
12:07:42 <dape> MMC: minutes look good
12:08:18 <dape> .. objection to publish?
12:08:27 <dape> -> none -> approved
12:08:35 <dape> SUBTOPIC: Oct-14 Open Day call
12:08:40 <dape> -> https://www.w3.org/2021/10/14-wot-minutes.html
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12:09:19 <dape> MMC/Kaz: minor typo fixes
12:09:28 <cris_> @kaz my surname was missplelled, is Aguzzi
12:10:31 <kaz> fixed
12:11:15 <dape> Kaz: fixing typos...
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12:12:14 <dape> s/objection to publish?/objections to publish?
12:15:45 <dape> MMC: any objections?
12:15:52 <dape> --> none -> minutes approved
12:16:12 <dape> TOPIC: Editors call today
12:16:25 <dape> ... low turnout due to conflicts
12:16:39 <kaz> i/Editors/link for the new TD issue 1251 initiated by the ECHONET discussion also added./
12:16:41 <dape> MMC: discussed how to make progress
12:16:46 <kaz> present+ Ryuichi_Matsukura
12:16:52 <dape> ... Kaz's generated issue as the starting point
12:16:58 <dape> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot/issues/996
12:17:15 <dape> MMC: use this issue as central hub
12:17:26 <dape> ... link other smaller issues
12:17:37 <dape> ... Doodle poll for new timeslot
12:17:48 <dape> -> https://doodle.com/poll/u6syz6yixk44hnak
12:18:13 <dape> MMC: Could have special calls in smaller groups
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12:19:06 <dape> ... need to work on coordination
12:19:14 <dape> TOPIC: Events
12:19:23 <dape> SUBTOPIC: IEEE Workshop on IoT Interoperability and the Web of Things - 11 Jan 2022
12:19:30 <dape> -> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wot-ig/2021Oct/0001.html
12:19:47 <dape> MMC: need to engage with W3C liaison team
12:20:04 <dape> ... dateline passed
12:20:17 <dape> ...  Submission deadline: October 15th, 2021 *November 8th, 2021 (EXTENDED)*
12:20:18 <cris_> q+
12:20:35 <dape> ML:  Topic of conference is interoperability
12:20:43 <dape> ... profile work is of interest
12:20:53 <dape> ... I am working on a draft
12:21:10 <dape> ... will approach some people individually
12:21:25 <dape> ... not sure if it is IEEE workshop or co-located
12:21:56 <kaz> q+
12:21:56 <dape> CA: Held in conjunction with the IEEE
12:21:58 <kaz> ack cr
12:22:05 <dape> ... i am not organizer
12:22:35 <dape> ... Luca S. and Matthias K. are organizing it
12:23:05 <dape> MMC: deadline is just 2 weeks away
12:23:12 <dape> ... next week is TPAC
12:23:30 <dape> s/dateline/deadline
12:24:14 <dape> ... let's have a contribution... we should be present
12:24:34 <dape> ML: I think I can work on a paper in time
12:24:38 <dape> MMC: Thanks!
12:24:53 <dape> Kaz: I am talking with liaison team as well
12:25:05 <dape> ... let's wait for their response
12:25:21 <dape> SUBTOPIC: Japanese CG
12:25:43 <dape> TM: we are discussing topics for Oct 26
12:25:51 <dape> .. at TPAC
12:25:58 <mlagally> s/think I can work on a paper in time/I commit to provide a paper within the deadline and will reach out to relevant people/
12:26:28 <dape> MMC: Takenaka in Japanese CG is one more topic
12:26:49 <mlagally> s/reach out to/reach out and coordinate with/
12:27:00 <dape> TOPIC: Scheduling
12:27:11 <dape> MMC: need to look at our deliverables
12:27:20 <dape> ... update milestones
12:27:39 <mlagally> q+
12:27:45 <kaz> ack k
12:27:46 <dape> ... on Oct 27 at TPAC I planned schedule revision
12:27:52 <dape> ... 15 minutes only
12:28:15 <dape> ... maybe move it to Oct 26, where we would have 1 hour slot
12:28:29 <dape> ... any objections to re-schedule?
12:28:31 <kaz> q?
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12:28:51 <dape> ML: Not sure about the plan
12:29:18 <dape> MMC: re-schedule it from Oct 27 to Oct 26
12:29:32 <kaz> q+
12:29:48 <dape> ... will send out email to make everyone aware
12:29:50 <dape> q?
12:29:54 <kaz> ack ml
12:30:30 <dape> ... on Oct 26 we could have 30 minutes for schedule discussions
12:30:54 <dape> s/for schedule discussions /for schedule discussions  and charters
12:31:57 <dape> TOPIC: TPAC 2021 vF2F status and planning
12:32:06 <kaz> q-
12:32:25 <dape> MMC: need to make sure schedule for F2F makes sense
12:33:06 <dape> ... CVevent do not contain WebEx invites
12:33:15 <dape> ... will setup proper invites
12:33:40 <dape> ... everyone needs to register
12:33:56 <dape> ... I think OPC-UA  is not happening
12:34:40 <dape> ... w.r.t. T2TRG and DID got merged
12:35:29 <McCool> https://github.com/w3c/wot/issues/987
12:36:11 <dape> ... would like top discuss signature, key distribution, discovery, ..
12:36:20 <dape> ... there also many sub-issues
12:36:34 <dape> ... please link related issues
12:36:42 <dape> ... meeting is on Oct 28
12:37:01 <dape> ... any comment about overall agenda?
12:37:49 <dape> ML: profile on Oct 27 could benefit having the additional 15 minutes
12:38:09 <dape> MMC: OPC-UA will take place on Oct 28
12:38:23 <dape> ... missed that before
12:39:24 <dape> ... under wot-testing I created a PR#197 with test reorganization
12:39:40 <dape> ... grouped things by implementations
12:39:54 <dape> ... was not sure in some case
12:40:09 <dape> ... e.g., do some use node-wot as code base?
12:40:20 <dape> ... if so.. results should be merged
12:40:36 <kaz> q?
12:40:40 <dape> ... no split across organization any longer
12:40:43 <kaz> present+ Michael_Koster
12:41:26 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
12:41:26 <dape> MMC: I also updated implementation report
12:41:32 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:41:32 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/10/20-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:42:05 <dape> ... includes 10 implementations
12:42:31 <dape> .. lot of implementations did not provide manual assertions
12:42:40 <dape> ... need to do data... collect data
12:42:59 <dape> TOPIC: Charters
12:43:07 <kaz> s/... low turnout/MMC: low turnout/
12:43:08 <dape> MMC: still to finish some work
12:43:10 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:43:10 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/10/20-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:43:14 <dape> ... should be read by next week
12:43:19 <dape> TOPIC: Smart Cities
12:43:28 <dape> MMC: Two breakout session during TPAC
12:43:33 <dape> ... Oct 18, 15UTC
12:43:39 <dape> ... Oct 21, 14UTC
12:43:47 <McCool> Edge Computing for the Web
12:44:17 <McCool> Friday, October 22, 2021 from 11:00 AM to 12:00 PM (atlantic time...)
12:44:31 <dape> q?
12:44:46 <dape> Kaz: Suggest people to join
12:45:11 <dape> ... we were getting great comments ... on the first day already
12:45:19 <dape> MMC: We need to involve more cities
12:45:40 <dape> ... ping Singapore ?
12:45:51 <dape> ... otherwise good discussion
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12:46:42 <dape> TOPIC: Testing needed prior to CR transition
12:46:53 <dape> MMC: currently working on TD topics
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12:47:21 <dape> TOPIC: TF Reports
12:47:43 <dape> MMC: Did have discovery and security call
12:48:03 <dape> ... talked about mini query mechanism .. not JSON path
12:48:11 <dape> ... based on keywords
12:48:19 <dape> ... filter on dates
12:48:42 <dape> ... more complicated stuff should go to XPath or SPARQL
12:49:03 <dape> ... we are still discussing this topic
12:49:22 <dape> ... need to resolve that before CR
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12:50:27 <dape> DP: Scripting took place
12:50:40 <dape> ... talked about recent issues we found
12:50:47 <dape> Kaz: Marketing
12:51:00 <dape> .. discussion about remaining issues
12:51:06 <dape> ... website
12:51:18 <dape> ... improvement of wiki information
12:51:23 <dape> ML: Use cases
12:51:40 <dape> ... skipped call yesterday due to low attendance
12:51:56 <dape> ... got new use case from new contributor
12:52:26 <kaz> s/improvement of wiki information/some discussion about improvement of wiki information, but need further discussion/
12:52:36 <dape> ... about digital microscope
12:52:39 <dape> Kaz: TD Call
12:52:45 <dape> cancelled last week
12:52:56 <dape> ... short call today (1h only)
12:53:04 <dape> MMC: PlugFest call
12:53:08 <kaz> s/cancelled/... cancelled/
12:53:20 <dape> ... should look into manual assertions
12:53:48 <McCool> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/pull/197
12:53:56 <dape> ... everyone should provide csv
12:54:21 <dape> MMC: Ege will run TD call today later
12:54:31 <kaz> i/PlugFest call/topic: Plugfest call and TD call today/
12:54:31 <dape> ... Sebastian cannot make it today
12:54:35 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:54:35 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/10/20-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:55:40 <dape> MMC: ITU-T document is still something I need to finish
12:55:49 <kaz> i/ITU-T/topic: AOB?/
12:55:58 <dape> ... if you are interested please get in touch with me
12:56:09 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:56:09 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/10/20-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:56:36 <dape> MMC: Note: PF call starts in 10 minutes
13:09:26 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:09:26 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/10/20-wot-minutes.html kaz
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