IRC log of wot-script on 2021-10-18

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meeting: WoT Scripting API

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present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Daniel_Peintner, Cristiano_Aguzzi, Zoltan_Kis

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scribeninck: cris

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topic: Minutes

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-> https://www.w3.org/2021/09/20-wot-script-minutes.html

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dape: last call was 27th of September

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... we talked about test fests and topics F2F meetining

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... we reviewed a PR for not found error

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... minutes are fine

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... any objections?

11:08:55 [zkis]

no

11:09:13 [cris]

no :)

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dape: minutes approved

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topic: quick updtates

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subtopic: F2F

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dape: we have a session next Wednesday about Scripting API

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-> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/WG_WoT_Scripting_API_WebConf#18_October_2021

11:10:12 [cris]

... we have 45 minutes

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... we could talk about different topics: - how to configure binding layer - testfest results

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... currently we support only a formIndex for interaction with bindings

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... what do you think about it

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zoltan: I'd propose a different API to interact with bindings

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... maybe defined at Thing level

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dape: what do you mean?

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zoltan: giving hints to the underlying API

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... possible not per-interaction

11:13:57 [kaz]

s/about it/about it?/

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zoltan: WoT model is born to abstract low level interaction patterns, we shouldn't open it again

11:15:06 [kaz]

q+

11:15:36 [cris]

dape: for example the consumer only knows http therefore it should be able to communicate this to the runtime.

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kaz: What did people do during this PlugFest?

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... they might provide good feedback

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dape: true

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cris: maybe we can also use the option parameter to choose a particular security schema

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zoltan: yeah maybe it could be an array

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... and then the runtime would throw if not security schema matches

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dape: yeah we can provide options also to the exposer part

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cris: seems good

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dape: I think we are having good points, I'll report those in the presentation to get more feedback

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zoltan: it is better to strictly define the algorithms about how the selection is done

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dape: one topic that I want to talk about is discovery

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cris: the downsized the scope, it is only http right now

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dape: ok and then we have the new Action Model

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... which is missing

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zoltan: yeah we need to look at it

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q+

11:30:35 [kaz]

q=

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q-

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s/q=//

11:33:24 [dape]

q+

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ack cr

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dape: we have different action models

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... one "operational", in other words using op keywords

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... other more based on hypermedia control

11:41:45 [kaz]

q+

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ack dape

11:44:17 [cris]

zoltan: control objects might be a good way to describe the current spec

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cris: right

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dape: similar to subscription object

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kaz: in cases where you have multiple instances you have to keep track also of who started it

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... which creates complexities

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ack k

11:48:08 [cris]

cris: about discovery should we implement other ways of discovery?

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zoltan: I think our API should be more focused on second phase

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dape: I like to have a convient API please support things "around me"

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zoltan: we have a security problem there..

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... in ocf this is not even allowed in one security realm.

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cris: should we have different endpoints for first level discovery?

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zoltan: we could but in another root object, cause I have security concerns

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topic: PRs

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dape: we have an Open pr about alignment of typescript API with WebIDL

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cris: there might be an error in emitEvent

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dape: ok to merge it?

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zoltan: ok

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kaz: ok

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dape: thank you

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[adjourned]

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rrsagent, draft minutes

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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/10/18-wot-script-minutes.html kaz

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