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11:06:54 <kaz> meeting: WoT Scripting API
11:07:11 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Daniel_Peintner, Cristiano_Aguzzi, Zoltan_Kis
11:07:15 <kaz> scribeninck: cris
11:07:36 <cris> topic: Minutes
11:07:45 <dape> -> https://www.w3.org/2021/09/20-wot-script-minutes.html
11:07:54 <cris> dape: last call was 27th of September
11:08:20 <cris> ... we talked about test fests and topics F2F meetining
11:08:38 <cris> ... we reviewed a PR for not found error
11:08:48 <cris> ... minutes are fine
11:08:53 <cris> ... any objections?
11:08:55 <zkis> no
11:09:13 <cris> no :)
11:09:18 <cris> dape: minutes approved
11:09:25 <cris> topic: quick updtates
11:09:42 <cris> subtopic: F2F
11:10:03 <cris> dape: we have a session next Wednesday about Scripting API
11:10:03 <dape> -> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/WG_WoT_Scripting_API_WebConf#18_October_2021
11:10:12 <cris> ... we have 45 minutes
11:11:15 <cris> ... we could talk about different topics: - how to configure binding layer - testfest results
11:11:47 <cris> ... currently we support only a formIndex for interaction with bindings
11:11:56 <cris> ... what do you think about it
11:12:25 <cris> zoltan: I'd propose a different API to interact with bindings
11:12:35 <cris> ... maybe defined at Thing level
11:13:02 <cris> dape: what do you mean?
11:13:35 <cris> zoltan: giving hints to the underlying API
11:13:43 <cris> ... possible not per-interaction
11:13:57 <kaz> s/about it/about it?/
11:14:30 <cris> zoltan: WoT model is born to abstract low level interaction patterns, we shouldn't open it again
11:15:06 <kaz> q+
11:15:36 <cris> dape: for example the consumer only knows http therefore it should be able to communicate this to the runtime.
11:17:49 <cris> kaz: What did people do during this PlugFest?
11:17:59 <cris> ... they might provide good feedback
11:18:05 <cris> dape: true
11:20:35 <cris> cris: maybe we can also use the option parameter to choose a particular security schema
11:20:48 <cris> zoltan: yeah maybe it could be an array
11:23:06 <cris> ... and then the runtime would throw if not security schema matches
11:24:11 <cris> dape: yeah we can provide options also to the exposer part
11:25:25 <cris> cris: seems good
11:26:15 <cris> dape: I think we are having good points, I'll report those in the presentation to get more feedback
11:26:41 <cris> zoltan: it is better to strictly define the algorithms about how the selection is done
11:27:43 <cris> dape: one topic that I want to talk about is discovery
11:28:36 <cris> cris: the downsized the scope, it is only http right now
11:29:03 <cris> dape: ok and then we have the new Action Model
11:29:07 <cris> ... which is missing
11:29:34 <cris> zoltan: yeah we need to look at it
11:30:24 <cris> q+
11:30:35 <kaz> q=
11:30:37 <kaz> q-
11:30:40 <kaz> s/q=//
11:33:24 <dape> q+
11:33:32 <dape> ack cr
11:35:46 <cris> dape: we have different action models
11:36:07 <cris> ... one "operational", in other words using op keywords
11:36:18 <cris> ... other more based on hypermedia control
11:41:45 <kaz> q+
11:42:11 <dape> ack dape
11:44:17 <cris> zoltan: control objects might be a good way to describe the current spec
11:44:19 <cris> cris: right
11:44:38 <cris> dape: similar to subscription object
11:45:43 <cris> kaz: in cases where you have multiple instances you have to keep track also of who started it
11:45:53 <cris> ... which creates complexities
11:45:58 <kaz> ack k
11:48:08 <cris> cris: about discovery should we implement other ways of discovery?
11:48:29 <cris> zoltan: I think our API should be more focused on second phase
11:48:46 <cris> dape: I like to have a convient API please support things "around me"
11:49:20 <cris> zoltan: we have a security problem there..
11:49:55 <cris> ... in ocf this is not even allowed in one security realm.
11:54:55 <cris> cris: should we have different endpoints for first level discovery?
11:55:24 <cris> zoltan: we could but in another root object, cause I have security concerns
11:57:39 <cris> topic: PRs
11:58:02 <cris> dape: we have an Open pr about alignment of typescript API with WebIDL
11:59:54 <cris> cris: there might be an error in emitEvent
12:01:17 <cris> dape: ok to merge it?
12:01:21 <cris> zoltan: ok
12:01:24 <cris> kaz: ok
12:01:31 <cris> dape: thank you
12:02:17 <kaz> [adjourned]
12:02:24 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
12:02:28 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:02:28 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/10/18-wot-script-minutes.html kaz
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