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17:39:04 <Zakim> Meeting: Web Authentication WG
17:39:08 <wseltzer> Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webauthn/2021Oct/0020.html
17:39:13 <wseltzer> Chair: Nadalin, Fontana
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19:04:41 <jfontana> tony: no meeting on the 20th
19:04:55 <jfontana> tony: we do have a joint session for TPAC
19:06:01 <jfontana> ...oct. 27 is meeting with web payments
19:06:49 <jfontana> wendy: go to TPAC site and register.
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19:07:13 <wseltzer> https://w3.org/TPAC
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19:07:40 <nsteele> !!!
19:07:45 <jfontana> tony: where are we with the charter. We have support and formal objection
19:08:47 <jfontana> wendy: many objections from one source
19:08:57 <jfontana> ...talk to advisory board
19:09:04 <jfontana> talked to...
19:09:15 <jeffh> present+
19:09:40 <jfontana> wendy: when is the meeting to deal with objections?
19:10:17 <jfontana> no precise timeline for dealing with objections
19:10:22 <wseltzer> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/33280/webauthn2021/results
19:10:29 <jfontana> agl: is there something to address in this working group
19:10:38 <jfontana> wendy: I put a link on IRC
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19:12:18 <jfontana> wendy: the group should not be held up for this.
19:12:25 <jfontana> agl: we can continue to work
19:12:36 <jfontana> ...maybe we order some things.
19:12:43 <jfontana> wendy: seems reasonable.
19:13:40 <jfontana> tony: is there a response from Addison?
19:13:45 <jfontana> wendy: no
19:14:07 <jfontana> tony: PRs
19:14:21 <jfontana> https://github.com/w3c/webauthn/pull/1668
19:14:30 <jfontana> tony: mostly I see agreement
19:14:42 <jfontana> jeffH: it is converging - not quite ready
19:19:05 <jfontana> jeffH: I will make last comment in PR and we can go from there
19:19:13 <jfontana> elundberg: yes.
19:19:31 <jfontana> https://github.com/w3c/webauthn/pull/1621
19:20:52 <jfontana> https://github.com/w3c/webauthn/pull/1425
19:20:56 <jfontana> still in progress.
19:21:01 <jfontana> https://github.com/w3c/webauthn/pull/1663
19:21:24 <jfontana> jeffH: in progress
19:21:36 <jfontana> tony: will we hit for Level 3
19:21:55 <jfontana> tony: untriaged
19:21:58 <jfontana> ...issues
19:22:18 <jfontana> https://github.com/w3c/webauthn/issues/1672
19:22:41 <jfontana> shane: this came out of FIDO talk on accessibiliyt
19:23:40 <jfontana> jbradley consumer deployment group at FIDO, doing accessibility review, web authn group has already been working on this
19:25:34 <jfontana> ..question to this working group, do we want to do something about  authenticator has accessible modalities.
19:26:11 <jfontana> ...they would like to turn off some of the alternatives, but still waiting for clarity for ADA
19:26:17 <wseltzer> s/wendy: the group should not be held up for this/wendy: we'll work to address so the group isn't held up/
19:26:33 <jfontana> agl: this is browser UI and not an issue, all UI goes those accessibility
19:27:08 <jfontana> ...we want authenticators that can meet the needs of users.
19:27:34 <jfontana> jbradley: W3C takes a user angle on accessibility and accept Web Auth.
19:28:21 <jfontana> nsteele: implementation comes down to vendors.
19:28:44 <jfontana> jbradley: other question: form filling for pins
19:29:03 <jfontana> jbradley: by design form fillers can not do that
19:29:57 <jfontana> ...answer to this is it is up to browsers
19:30:17 <jfontana> agl: yes. I am happy to have a dialog
19:30:34 <jfontana> ...we test screen reader and should work with chrome UI
19:30:45 <jfontana> ...I will craft an answer to this issue.
19:31:52 <jfontana> https://github.com/w3c/webauthn/issues/1667
19:32:18 <jfontana> tony: akshay is not on, skip
19:32:22 <dveditz> I apparently can't unmute, but Mozilla also has extensive accessibility testing for our dialogs and other browser UI
19:32:36 <jfontana> ...list of open issues. are there ones we want to discuss
19:33:22 <jfontana> agl: I think in theory, our error behavior will match Microsoft #1637
19:36:10 <jfontana> tony: any other discussion items?
19:39:18 <wseltzer> [next regular meeting in 4 weeks]
19:39:23 <wseltzer> [adjourned]
19:39:27 <wseltzer> rrsagent, draft minutes
19:39:27 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/10/06-webauthn-minutes.html wseltzer
19:42:07 <wseltzer> s/many objections from one source/the formal objection is similar to those the same member has filed on other charters/
19:42:50 <wseltzer> s/talk to advisory board/asking TAG and Advisory Board as Council to help Director address objections/
19:43:16 <wseltzer> s/wendy: when/John: when/
19:43:40 <wseltzer> s/wendy: no/wendy: I can't find him online right now/
19:43:53 <wseltzer> rrsagent, draft minutes
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19:44:11 <wseltzer> s/jbradley c/jbradley: c/
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19:45:41 <wseltzer> s/asking/Team is asking/
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19:47:02 <wseltzer> s/no precise timeline for dealing with objections/wendy: no precise timeline for dealing with objections, but should get through before group's charter expires end of year/
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