IRC log of webauthn on 2021-10-06

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Meeting: Web Authentication WG
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Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webauthn/2021Oct/0020.html
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Chair: Nadalin, Fontana
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present+
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present+
19:04:12 [wseltzer]
present+
19:04:41 [jfontana]
tony: no meeting on the 20th
19:04:55 [jfontana]
tony: we do have a joint session for TPAC
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...oct. 27 is meeting with web payments
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wendy: go to TPAC site and register.
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https://w3.org/TPAC
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present+
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!!!
19:07:45 [jfontana]
tony: where are we with the charter. We have support and formal objection
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wendy: many objections from one source
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...talk to advisory board
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talked to...
19:09:15 [jeffh]
present+
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wendy: when is the meeting to deal with objections?
19:10:17 [jfontana]
no precise timeline for dealing with objections
19:10:22 [wseltzer]
https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/33280/webauthn2021/results
19:10:29 [jfontana]
agl: is there something to address in this working group
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wendy: I put a link on IRC
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present+
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19:12:18 [jfontana]
wendy: the group should not be held up for this.
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agl: we can continue to work
19:12:36 [jfontana]
...maybe we order some things.
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wendy: seems reasonable.
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tony: is there a response from Addison?
19:13:45 [jfontana]
wendy: no
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tony: PRs
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https://github.com/w3c/webauthn/pull/1668
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tony: mostly I see agreement
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jeffH: it is converging - not quite ready
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jeffH: I will make last comment in PR and we can go from there
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elundberg: yes.
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https://github.com/w3c/webauthn/pull/1621
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https://github.com/w3c/webauthn/pull/1425
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still in progress.
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https://github.com/w3c/webauthn/pull/1663
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jeffH: in progress
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tony: will we hit for Level 3
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tony: untriaged
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...issues
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https://github.com/w3c/webauthn/issues/1672
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shane: this came out of FIDO talk on accessibiliyt
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jbradley consumer deployment group at FIDO, doing accessibility review, web authn group has already been working on this
19:25:34 [jfontana]
..question to this working group, do we want to do something about authenticator has accessible modalities.
19:26:11 [jfontana]
...they would like to turn off some of the alternatives, but still waiting for clarity for ADA
19:26:17 [wseltzer]
s/wendy: the group should not be held up for this/wendy: we'll work to address so the group isn't held up/
19:26:33 [jfontana]
agl: this is browser UI and not an issue, all UI goes those accessibility
19:27:08 [jfontana]
...we want authenticators that can meet the needs of users.
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jbradley: W3C takes a user angle on accessibility and accept Web Auth.
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nsteele: implementation comes down to vendors.
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jbradley: other question: form filling for pins
19:29:03 [jfontana]
jbradley: by design form fillers can not do that
19:29:57 [jfontana]
...answer to this is it is up to browsers
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agl: yes. I am happy to have a dialog
19:30:34 [jfontana]
...we test screen reader and should work with chrome UI
19:30:45 [jfontana]
...I will craft an answer to this issue.
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https://github.com/w3c/webauthn/issues/1667
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tony: akshay is not on, skip
19:32:22 [dveditz]
I apparently can't unmute, but Mozilla also has extensive accessibility testing for our dialogs and other browser UI
19:32:36 [jfontana]
...list of open issues. are there ones we want to discuss
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agl: I think in theory, our error behavior will match Microsoft #1637
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tony: any other discussion items?
19:39:18 [wseltzer]
[next regular meeting in 4 weeks]
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[adjourned]
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s/many objections from one source/the formal objection is similar to those the same member has filed on other charters/
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s/talk to advisory board/asking TAG and Advisory Board as Council to help Director address objections/
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s/wendy: when/John: when/
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s/wendy: no/wendy: I can't find him online right now/
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s/jbradley c/jbradley: c/
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s/asking/Team is asking/
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s/no precise timeline for dealing with objections/wendy: no precise timeline for dealing with objections, but should get through before group's charter expires end of year/
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