IRC log of webauthn on 2021-10-06
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- logging to https://www.w3.org/2021/10/06-webauthn-irc
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- Meeting: Web Authentication WG
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- Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webauthn/2021Oct/0020.html
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- Chair: Nadalin, Fontana
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- present+
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- present+
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- present+
- 19:04:12 [wseltzer]
- present+
- 19:04:41 [jfontana]
- tony: no meeting on the 20th
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- tony: we do have a joint session for TPAC
- 19:06:01 [jfontana]
- ...oct. 27 is meeting with web payments
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- wendy: go to TPAC site and register.
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- https://w3.org/TPAC
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- present+
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- 19:07:40 [nsteele]
- !!!
- 19:07:45 [jfontana]
- tony: where are we with the charter. We have support and formal objection
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- wendy: many objections from one source
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- ...talk to advisory board
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- talked to...
- 19:09:15 [jeffh]
- present+
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- wendy: when is the meeting to deal with objections?
- 19:10:17 [jfontana]
- no precise timeline for dealing with objections
- 19:10:22 [wseltzer]
- https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/33280/webauthn2021/results
- 19:10:29 [jfontana]
- agl: is there something to address in this working group
- 19:10:38 [jfontana]
- wendy: I put a link on IRC
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- present+
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- wendy: the group should not be held up for this.
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- agl: we can continue to work
- 19:12:36 [jfontana]
- ...maybe we order some things.
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- wendy: seems reasonable.
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- tony: is there a response from Addison?
- 19:13:45 [jfontana]
- wendy: no
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- tony: PRs
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- https://github.com/w3c/webauthn/pull/1668
- 19:14:30 [jfontana]
- tony: mostly I see agreement
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- jeffH: it is converging - not quite ready
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- jeffH: I will make last comment in PR and we can go from there
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- elundberg: yes.
- 19:19:31 [jfontana]
- https://github.com/w3c/webauthn/pull/1621
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- https://github.com/w3c/webauthn/pull/1425
- 19:20:56 [jfontana]
- still in progress.
- 19:21:01 [jfontana]
- https://github.com/w3c/webauthn/pull/1663
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- jeffH: in progress
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- tony: will we hit for Level 3
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- tony: untriaged
- 19:21:58 [jfontana]
- ...issues
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- https://github.com/w3c/webauthn/issues/1672
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- shane: this came out of FIDO talk on accessibiliyt
- 19:23:40 [jfontana]
- jbradley consumer deployment group at FIDO, doing accessibility review, web authn group has already been working on this
- 19:25:34 [jfontana]
- ..question to this working group, do we want to do something about authenticator has accessible modalities.
- 19:26:11 [jfontana]
- ...they would like to turn off some of the alternatives, but still waiting for clarity for ADA
- 19:26:17 [wseltzer]
- s/wendy: the group should not be held up for this/wendy: we'll work to address so the group isn't held up/
- 19:26:33 [jfontana]
- agl: this is browser UI and not an issue, all UI goes those accessibility
- 19:27:08 [jfontana]
- ...we want authenticators that can meet the needs of users.
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- jbradley: W3C takes a user angle on accessibility and accept Web Auth.
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- nsteele: implementation comes down to vendors.
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- jbradley: other question: form filling for pins
- 19:29:03 [jfontana]
- jbradley: by design form fillers can not do that
- 19:29:57 [jfontana]
- ...answer to this is it is up to browsers
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- agl: yes. I am happy to have a dialog
- 19:30:34 [jfontana]
- ...we test screen reader and should work with chrome UI
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- ...I will craft an answer to this issue.
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- https://github.com/w3c/webauthn/issues/1667
- 19:32:18 [jfontana]
- tony: akshay is not on, skip
- 19:32:22 [dveditz]
- I apparently can't unmute, but Mozilla also has extensive accessibility testing for our dialogs and other browser UI
- 19:32:36 [jfontana]
- ...list of open issues. are there ones we want to discuss
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- agl: I think in theory, our error behavior will match Microsoft #1637
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- tony: any other discussion items?
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- [next regular meeting in 4 weeks]
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- [adjourned]
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- s/many objections from one source/the formal objection is similar to those the same member has filed on other charters/
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- s/talk to advisory board/asking TAG and Advisory Board as Council to help Director address objections/
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- s/wendy: when/John: when/
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- s/wendy: no/wendy: I can't find him online right now/
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- s/jbradley c/jbradley: c/
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- s/asking/Team is asking/
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- s/no precise timeline for dealing with objections/wendy: no precise timeline for dealing with objections, but should get through before group's charter expires end of year/
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