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11:53:45 <xfq> Meeting: MiniApps WG Call
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12:01:18 <xfq> present+ zitao
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12:02:21 <Angel> zakim, agenda?
12:02:21 <Zakim> I see 2 items remaining on the agenda:
12:02:23 <Zakim> 4. Next Teleconf time [from angel]
12:02:23 <Zakim> 5. AoB [from angel]
12:02:31 <Angel> zakim, clear the agenda
12:02:31 <Zakim> agenda cleared
12:02:51 <xfq> zitao: lifecycle
12:03:24 <xfq> https://github.com/w3c/miniapp-lifecycle/issues/15
12:05:48 <xfq> qing: sent a PR
12:06:35 <xfq> https://github.com/w3c/miniapp-lifecycle/pull/16/files
12:08:09 <xfq> present+ aaron_wentzel
12:09:08 <xfq> zitao: maybe you can restructure this document
12:09:20 <xfq> ... @@
12:10:17 <xfq> ... mapping to existing Web specifications such as Service Workers and Page Visibility
12:16:10 <xfq> martin: @@
12:16:15 <xfq> ... should link to Packaging
12:17:27 <xfq> ... indicating the algorithms are in the other spec
12:19:24 <xfq> present+ yanyumeng
12:20:24 <martin> s/martin: @@/martin: In the Manifest spec we have the "start page" as launch page. In the Packaging spec, we include the algorithm to fetch and load/launch a MiniApp. We can include cross references among specifications.
12:20:59 <xfq> qing: the origin model is different from web apps
12:21:02 <xfq> ... any thoughts
12:21:45 <xfq> zitao: not sure if we need to reflect this on this spec
12:22:27 <xfq> qing: we need somewhere to say the super app or the OS should be responsible to check the app's origin and security
12:22:41 <xfq> ... could be in the explainer
12:22:46 <xfq> ... not sure it should be in the spec
12:23:43 <xfq> xfq: it's a valid concern for other specs as well
12:24:06 <xfq> qing: we can update the explainers of the specs
12:24:13 <xfq> ... and add something in the white paper
12:24:24 <xfq> zitao: I agree
12:24:49 <xfq> ... we can reflect it in the white paper
12:25:08 <xfq> qing: we can add this in our white paper revision plan
12:30:25 <xfq> ... @@
12:30:27 <xfq> zitao: manifest
12:30:52 <xfq> https://w3c.github.io/localizable-manifests/
12:33:33 <xfq> https://github.com/w3c/miniapp-manifest/pull/33
12:35:09 <xfq> https://github.com/w3c/miniapp-manifest/pull/29
12:37:09 <xfq> zitao: reviewed this
12:37:10 <xfq> ... lgtm
12:37:16 <xfq> ... any objections?
12:37:26 <xfq> [silence]
12:37:31 <xfq> zitao: we'll merge it then
12:37:35 <xfq> martin: thank you
12:38:12 <xfq> zitao: packaging
12:38:23 <xfq> ... mainly editorial changes
12:39:50 <xfq> ... the current status is to assume that we use standard html css and so on
12:40:09 <xfq> ... we're splitting the spec into the packaging itself and the templates
12:40:31 <xfq> s/the templates/its content/
12:40:41 <xfq> ... template, markup etc.
12:41:00 <xfq> ...  agree we should include a11y section
12:41:16 <xfq> ... not very relevant for this spec though
12:41:37 <xfq> ... imo this is solid to move forward
12:41:44 <xfq> ... when we add the a11y section
12:41:54 <xfq> zitao: i reviewed it
12:42:05 <xfq> ... we agreed to split this spec into two specs
12:42:36 <xfq> ... do you this is mature enough for fpwd?
12:43:06 <xfq> s/... mainly editorial changes/martin: mainly editorial changes/
12:44:11 <xfq> martin: @@
12:44:20 <xfq> xfq: need a cfc
12:44:40 <xfq> zitao: any objection to merging this pr and move it to fpwd?
12:44:44 <xfq> [silence]
12:46:39 <martin> q+
12:47:25 <xfq> canfeng: widgets issue
12:47:28 <xfq> https://github.com/w3c/miniapp-widget/issues/2
12:48:00 <xfq> canfeng: @@
12:51:24 <Angel> q+
12:52:22 <martin> q-
12:55:25 <Angel> https://www.w3.org/wiki/TPAC/2021/GroupMeetings
12:55:30 <xfq> angel: infoshare
12:55:37 <xfq> ... cg will meet in the second hour
12:55:46 <xfq> ... our wg will use the first hour
12:55:50 <xfq> ... oct 28
12:56:17 <xfq> ... xfq can send the invitation
12:56:28 <xfq> ack Angel
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