Meeting minutes
This Meeting
Nigel: Only a few things on the agenda:
… IMSC HRM, Charter, AOB
… Atsushi just mentioned for AOB the GitHub groups and permissions, so we'll cover that.
Pierre: I want to get the HRM pull request merged faster than the 2 week turnaround.
Nigel: Plus AOB from me about BBC Subtitle Guidelines
IMSC HRM
Pull Request for Initial Draft
github: https://
Nigel: Action on my to update github-bot!
Nigel: Apologies I haven't had chance to look at this. It's a copy-paste from the existing HRM, right?
Pierre: Right, that's the goal. I have permissions issues by the way.
Nigel: I hope to get to this in the next couple of hours.
Atsushi: We are relying on W3C account management so if the W3C account is not linked to the GitHub account then permissions will not be assigned.
Nigel: Any editorial questions arising from this, Pierre? I see there are a couple of empty sections at the end.
Pierre: It looks alright - substantively it's identical really.
Nigel: We will have to put something in for Privacy and Security Considerations at some point.
Pierre: That's fine, we can put something in, I just wanted a baseline to start with.
Nigel: Any questions or comments about the HRM at all?
Cyril: I saw in the description that the goal is to capture the HRM from IMSC 1.2.
… You copied it from 1.2 and edited the header, right?
Pierre: That's exactly what I did.
Compatibility with IMSC 1.0.1 and 1.1
Cyril: How do you intend to approach compat with 1.0.1 and 1.1?
Pierre: The next PR will be to make it apply to all versions of IMSC.
… It will be simple because there are only additions.
… The goal is to have a document that covers IMSC 1, 1.1 and 1.2, at least for now.
… The immediate goal is to get at least a draft out to create those deltas.
Cyril: Makes sense
Mike: The state of this is consistent with that - given the approach I will be comfortable to approve.
Charter
Nigel: This is for Chairs at the moment, and we don't have Gary today.
… Main question in my mind is what Rec track deliverables to list in the new Charter.
… Current tentative list is our specs in CR, TTML2 and WebVTT,
… and IMSC HRM and ADPT.
… Any comments on that list? Additions, subtractions?
group has no comments
Nigel: It's the perfect list!
AOB - GitHub Group and permissions
Atsushi: We have a historical ttwg GitHub team to assign write permissions over TTWG repos.
… But W3C has switched to an automatic management tool using w3c-group-[id] that is configured by the participant
… list in the W3C database, and the connection between the accounts is managed by each user in their W3C profile.
<atsushi> https://
Atsushi: If you don't have GitHub user id in this participant list, then you won't have any permissions on TTWG repositories.
Pierre: How long does it take for the permissions to propagate?
Atsushi: It will be processed daily or weekly.
Pierre: I linked my account but still don't have permissions, so I'll wait.
Atsushi: Maybe wait a week or something.
Nigel: Can you kick it?
Atsushi: It's managed by sys team, I can ask...
<atsushi> Systeam <w3t-sys@w3.org>
Pierre: I can contact them directly.
Atsushi: Note that this is "geek week" so you may not get an instant reply.
Pierre: Thank you
Atsushi: sorry for the difficulties - this is much easier for us.
Nigel: Are you proposing deleting a group?
Atsushi: tt-wg
Nigel: Have you cross-checked to see if that will impact anybody?
Atsushi: I think I included a list in an email.
Nigel: Okay, I will take a look - I think I saw that email in passing but did not manage to follow up on it yet.
Nigel: Fair warning to all. Anyone feel that's a challenge to them?
nobody present mentions any difficulty
Nigel: Alright, shall we set a timeline for removing the group?
Atsushi: No timeline was defined, but I have a strong push on this, so I need to do it before TPAC.
Nigel: Propose 30 September? So 2 weeks from now it will get deleted.
Atsushi: Yeah 2 weeks or 1 month is fine.
Nigel: Let's get it done - call it 30 September.
Atsushi: Thank you.
AOB - BBC Subtitle Guidelines
Nigel: Just to let you know that we just published a new release version of the BBC subtitle guidelines
Nigel: You may be interested in the strengthened requirement to meet IMSC 1.0.1 in distribution subtitle documents,
… and the details added about how to position Teletext characters in % coordinates.
… There's also some detail about authoring and presentation font sizes, and how to adjust the presentation font sizes or customise them.
Meeting close
Nigel: Thank you everyone, we're done early today! [adjourns meeting]