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11:52:54 <xfq> Meeting: MiniApps CG Monthly TeleConf
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11:53:13 <xfq> present+
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12:00:26 <xfq> present+ qing
12:00:31 <xfq> present+ zitao
12:00:46 <xfq> present+ dan
12:01:11 <xfq> present+ tengyuan
12:03:27 <xfq> present+ xiaoqian
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12:04:41 <xfq> present+ bingqing_zhou
12:04:50 <xfq> present+ yanyumeng
12:05:21 <xfq> present+ chaoyulu
12:05:52 <xfq> [zitao shows tool for converting standard to vendor specific implementations]
12:07:13 <xfq> zitao: using HarmonyOS JSFA IDE
12:08:03 <xfq> present+ xuying07
12:08:25 <xfq> s/chaoyulu/Yulu_Chao_Baidu/
12:11:40 <xfq> present+ Jia_Wang
12:13:52 <xiaoqian> scribe: compared to QuickApps, it's actually more similar to MiniProgram
12:14:05 <xiaoqian> s/scribe:/zitao:
12:14:10 <xiaoqian> scribe+ xiaoqian
12:14:39 <xiaoqian> dan: what's the timeline?
12:14:57 <xiaoqian> zitao: would like to present it in TPAC as a demo
12:15:23 <xiaoqian> ... any other vendor interested in working with us?
12:15:53 <xiaoqian> dan: sounds interesting, we should schedule a specially meeting to talk about this
12:15:58 <xiaoqian> ... how about 13 Oct?
12:16:41 <xiaoqian> ... to present our own version about this tool?
12:17:08 <tomayac> present+ tomayac
12:17:29 <xiaoqian> ... xfq, could you help schedule a meeting?
12:17:33 <xiaoqian> xfq: sure
12:18:54 <xiaoqian> zitao: this is screenshot of a tool that help align the standards with our current implementation on MiniApp platform
12:19:19 <xiaoqian> ... this demo is specially design for MiniApp Manifest
12:19:28 <xiaoqian> s/design/designed
12:20:31 <xiaoqian> ... we will trying to make it open-source
12:21:01 <xiaoqian> dan: Anqing, are Alibaba be willing to work together with us?
12:21:27 <xiaoqian> [very noisy background]
12:21:52 <xiaoqian> dan: ok, I'll talk with other vendors offline, f.ex, Xiaomi
12:23:22 <xiaoqian> zitao: maybe each vendor can start experiments during this two months, not likely to reach on consensus in such short time
12:24:16 <xiaoqian> topic: TPAC Planning
12:24:49 <xiaoqian> dan: what should be on the agenda?
12:25:32 <xiaoqian> xfq: WG will be meeting on 28 Oct for 2 hours
12:25:55 <xiaoqian> ... CG were invited to a joint meeting
12:26:19 <xiaoqian> ... what topics you would like to discuss?
12:26:37 <xiaoqian> ... like IoT, Component?
12:27:01 <xiaoqian> ... which hour you would like to join?
12:27:44 <xfq> dan: wg first
12:28:04 <xfq> zitao: what topics to discuss in cg and what topics to discuss in wg
12:31:19 <xfq> dan: @@
12:31:29 <xfq> xfq: we can use breakout session to show @@
12:33:59 <xiaoqian> s/@@/we are not sure if Baidu can raise any new topic this year
12:34:35 <xfq> https://www.w3.org/wiki/TPAC/2021/SessionIdeas
12:35:16 <xiaoqian> Qing: do we have enough time to have a joint discussion with other groups?
12:35:28 <xiaoqian> ... I think we only have one hour?
12:35:42 <xiaoqian> xfq: yes, indeed. Maybe we can join their meeting?
12:36:27 <xiaoqian> Qing: could you help ask the WoT IG/WG for a 20 mins session for MiniApp-IoT?
12:36:45 <xiaoqian> xfq: Already asked them, no feedback yet
12:37:34 <xiaoqian> Qing: for the WG-CG joint meeting, I think we already have enough topics for an one hour session?
12:37:45 <xiaoqian> ... any deadline to raise topics to the agenda?
12:38:10 <xiaoqian> xfq: we can always modify the agenda
12:38:20 <xiaoqian> ... maybe the week before TPAC?
12:38:57 <xiaoqian> Qing: let's try to finalise the agenda in the meeting on 13 Oct
12:39:03 <xiaoqian> zitao: agree
12:40:23 <xiaoqian> Qing: Dan and I can work on the first draft by the end of Week
12:41:10 <xiaoqian> topic: IoT MiniApp
12:41:31 <xiaoqian> Qing: I will prepare for an introduction in the TPAC session
12:43:49 <xiaoqian> [zitao displayed the tool again]
12:47:43 <xiaoqian> zitao: the goal is once a developer write a standardised Manifest, it can be run on any MiniApp Platform with the help of the tool on each vendor
12:49:10 <xiaoqian> qing: as for Lifecycle, it might work for some global attributes
12:51:30 <xiaoqian> dan: it will be a handed tool for Manifest as it's static, maybe more tricky for Addressing and Lifecycle
12:51:52 <xiaoqian> s/handed/useful
12:54:00 <xiaoqian> zitao: I think it will also work for Packaging
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