IRC log of miniapp on 2021-09-16

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Meeting: MiniApps CG Monthly TeleConf
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scribe+
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present+ qing
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present+ zitao
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present+ dan
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present+ bingqing_zhou
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[zitao shows tool for converting standard to vendor specific implementations]
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zitao: using HarmonyOS JSFA IDE
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s/chaoyulu/Yulu_Chao_Baidu/
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12:13:52 [xiaoqian]
scribe: compared to QuickApps, it's actually more similar to MiniProgram
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s/scribe:/zitao:
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dan: what's the timeline?
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zitao: would like to present it in TPAC as a demo
12:15:23 [xiaoqian]
... any other vendor interested in working with us?
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dan: sounds interesting, we should schedule a specially meeting to talk about this
12:15:58 [xiaoqian]
... how about 13 Oct?
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... to present our own version about this tool?
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12:17:29 [xiaoqian]
... xfq, could you help schedule a meeting?
12:17:33 [xiaoqian]
xfq: sure
12:18:54 [xiaoqian]
zitao: this is screenshot of a tool that help align the standards with our current implementation on MiniApp platform
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... this demo is specially design for MiniApp Manifest
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s/design/designed
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... we will trying to make it open-source
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dan: Anqing, are Alibaba be willing to work together with us?
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[very noisy background]
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dan: ok, I'll talk with other vendors offline, f.ex, Xiaomi
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zitao: maybe each vendor can start experiments during this two months, not likely to reach on consensus in such short time
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topic: TPAC Planning
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dan: what should be on the agenda?
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xfq: WG will be meeting on 28 Oct for 2 hours
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... CG were invited to a joint meeting
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... what topics you would like to discuss?
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... like IoT, Component?
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... which hour you would like to join?
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dan: wg first
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zitao: what topics to discuss in cg and what topics to discuss in wg
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dan: @@
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xfq: we can use breakout session to show @@
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s/@@/we are not sure if Baidu can raise any new topic this year
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https://www.w3.org/wiki/TPAC/2021/SessionIdeas
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Qing: do we have enough time to have a joint discussion with other groups?
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... I think we only have one hour?
12:35:42 [xiaoqian]
xfq: yes, indeed. Maybe we can join their meeting?
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Qing: could you help ask the WoT IG/WG for a 20 mins session for MiniApp-IoT?
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xfq: Already asked them, no feedback yet
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Qing: for the WG-CG joint meeting, I think we already have enough topics for an one hour session?
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... any deadline to raise topics to the agenda?
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xfq: we can always modify the agenda
12:38:20 [xiaoqian]
... maybe the week before TPAC?
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Qing: let's try to finalise the agenda in the meeting on 13 Oct
12:39:03 [xiaoqian]
zitao: agree
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Qing: Dan and I can work on the first draft by the end of Week
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topic: IoT MiniApp
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Qing: I will prepare for an introduction in the TPAC session
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[zitao displayed the tool again]
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zitao: the goal is once a developer write a standardised Manifest, it can be run on any MiniApp Platform with the help of the tool on each vendor
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qing: as for Lifecycle, it might work for some global attributes
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dan: it will be a handed tool for Manifest as it's static, maybe more tricky for Addressing and Lifecycle
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s/handed/useful
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zitao: I think it will also work for Packaging
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