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13:52:48 <IrfanA> zakim, who is here?
13:52:48 <Zakim> Present: Irfan, paul_grenier, JF, SteveNoble_, mhakkinen, Dee, Alan, janina, NeilS, Alan_, Roy, PaulG, IrfanA, SteveNoble
13:52:49 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
13:52:51 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, IrfanA, PaulG, Roy, MichaelC, Zakim, trackbot
13:52:52 <trackbot> Meeting: Spoken Pronunciation Task Force Teleconference
13:52:52 <trackbot> Date: 01 September 2021
13:53:06 <IrfanA> agenda?
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14:04:19 <Dee> Present+ Dee
14:05:12 <Roy> https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/561
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14:06:01 <PaulG> scribe: PaulG
14:06:02 <PaulG> zakim, next item
14:06:02 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Agenda Review & Announcements -- taken up [from IrfanA]
14:06:13 <PaulG> chair: IrfanA
14:07:00 <PaulG> zakim, close this item
14:07:00 <Zakim> agendum 1 closed
14:07:01 <Zakim> I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:07:01 <Zakim> 2. TPAC and other conferences [from IrfanA]
14:07:04 <PaulG> zakim, next item
14:07:04 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- TPAC and other conferences -- taken up [from IrfanA]
14:07:35 <janina> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2021
14:09:03 <PaulG> janina: things are moving forward. Some meetings are already set. I'm very interested in Alan's i18n issue. We may be able to address this at TPAC.
14:09:34 <PaulG> IrfanA: in week one, I didn't see anything for us. In week 2 there are 2 discussions.
14:10:39 <PaulG> janina: a very interesting discussion there is the ability to reference schemas normatively.
14:11:20 <IrfanA> https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/561
14:11:27 <PaulG> janina: we know where some ARIA folks will be so we want to be in those meetings.
14:12:31 <PaulG> IrfanA: the TAG requested a review of our explainer but the issue was closed. We now have the FPWD. We can wait until we have the final approach or we can show them the FPWD and get their thoughts.
14:13:10 <PaulG> janina: I'm inclined to wait. I'm not sure they'll have much to add. They also don't seem to appreciate wading through the types of public-facing explainers that we publish.
14:14:08 <Roy> q+
14:15:23 <PaulG> janina: we learned last year not to ask the parsers to change.
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14:17:17 <IrfanA> ack Roy
14:18:08 <PaulG> Roy: for the TAG review, I discussed with Michael and he thinks we should reopen this issue because TAG is a bridge to WHATWG.
14:18:42 <PaulG> Roy: I also noticed that our explainer is in the TAG format. I think it's okay to use the explainer to talk to them.
14:18:48 <PaulG> Roy: but we should update the document.
14:18:50 <Roy> https://w3c.github.io/pronunciation/explainer/
14:19:02 <PaulG> janina: if we already have it in their format, that's fine
14:19:15 <PaulG> Roy: should we talk to TAG during TPAC?
14:19:40 <PaulG> janina: the argument between AT and browsers needs to be the focus of discussion and solutions
14:19:55 <PaulG> ack Roy
14:24:49 <PaulG> janina: I will send a draft invite message to the list after the long weekend and look for feedback.
14:25:24 <PaulG> mhakkinen: for AITA there was a notification that we were accepted.
14:25:53 <PaulG> mhakkinen: I will have to register for the conf by Sept 7.
14:26:45 <PaulG> mhakkinen: I think we can have virtual co-presenters but someone needs to be there.
14:26:57 <PaulG> mhakkinen: I'll keep everyone posted.
14:27:16 <PaulG> ATIA*
14:28:12 <PaulG> mhakkinen: I'd be willing to do a hybrid presentation for CSUN but I'd rather someone else take the lead.
14:29:10 <PaulG> zakim, next item
14:29:10 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- Action Items i18n writeup -- taken up [from IrfanA]
14:32:31 <PaulG> janina: the only thing I'd add is an example of where we can add more specificity to lang.
14:33:45 <PaulG> Alan_: the TTS engines can't figure this stuff out from the context.
14:35:03 <PaulG> janina: I'll provide an example, I'll try to get to this before the weekend
14:38:35 <PaulG> zakim, next item
14:38:35 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- Github Issues -- taken up [from IrfanA]
14:39:28 <PaulG> https://github.com/w3c/pronunciation/pull/96
14:41:21 <Roy> https://services.w3.org/htmldiff
14:42:47 <Roy> https://raw.githack.com/AutoSponge/pronunciation/doc/lang/technical-approach/index.html
14:43:32 <PaulG> https://services.w3.org/htmldiff?doc1=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2FTR%2Fspoken-html%2F&doc2=https%3A%2F%2Fraw.githack.com%2FAutoSponge%2Fpronunciation%2Fdoc%2Flang%2Ftechnical-approach%2Findex.html
14:47:12 <PaulG> zakim, next item
14:47:12 <Zakim> agendum 5 -- Other Business -- taken up [from IrfanA]
14:47:44 <PaulG> RRSAgent, make logs public
14:47:46 <PaulG> RRSAgent, make minutes
14:47:46 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/09/01-pronunciation-minutes.html PaulG
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