IRC log of ixml on 2021-08-17
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- Meeting: ixml working group
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- Date: 17 Aug 2021
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- Chair: Steven
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- Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2021Aug/0004
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- Present: Michael SMQ, Michael Gryk, Tomos, Steven
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- Regrets: John Lumley
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- MIA: Aleksei
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- ACTION: Michael SMq to control the agenda sending
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- Topic: Past actions:
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- Steven to research where to put S for attributes.
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- Continues
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- Tom to raise ticket re: space definitions in Ixml grammar
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- Done
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- ACTION: Steven to upload new version of spec
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- group validate new conformance changes at URL above
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- [Done]
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- Steven to implement Michael's suggestion
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- [Done]
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- Michael Transcribe list of cases not covered by dogfood test, and add to
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- github
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- [Done]
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- Michael: I have added a directory to github
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- ... still to complete
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- ... I will generate a stylesheet to list tests
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- Tom automate Michael's test suite publishing
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- [Continues]
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- Tom: I will work out with Micael after this call
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- s/Mica/Micha/
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- Steven add '+' to grammar
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- Steven: I think this is a future version
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- Tomos: I can live with that
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- MSM: I can live with either
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- ... 1.0 is feature freeze and bug fix, 1.1 is new features
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- Topic: Informative references to parsing algorithms
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- https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2021Jul/0009
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- MSM: Include all of them, specific, and Grune.
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- ACTION: Steven to add references tp [arsing algorithms to spec
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- Topic: test case conditions
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- https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2021Aug/0001
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- Steven: Covered in action items list
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- Topic: Rewriting an ixml grammar as conventional BNF
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- https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2021Aug/0000
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- MSM: I feel sheepish because I worked out how to extend Early to extended BNF, I want to return pasre forest grammars.
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- s/pasre/parse
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- https://invisiblexml.org/ixml-specification.html#hints
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- Steven: The spec does mention this, see above.
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- MSM: Ah, OK.
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- topic can be closed, then
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- Topic: State of implementations
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- Steven: I have the first steps to translating to C, still lots of work to do.
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- ... and I need this for November, so I am committed.
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- Tom: "continues"
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- ... new job getting in the way.
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- MSM: I've submitted a paper to Declarative Amsterdam. SO I need a new working version by November as well.
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- ... I have a working version of my parser, it uses older version of ixml sysntax.
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- s/sysn/syn/
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- ... I'm writing it as a literate program.
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- ... maybe in XSLT
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- ... depends on the tooling.
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- Tom: I'm interested in your approach.
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- MSM: The tooling is a bit old.
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- Michael Gryk: I hope to be able to add use cases
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- Topic: Bug reports
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- Tom: https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/2 (S between rules) is done
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- https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/2 (S between rules)
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- Steven: Topic is closed.
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- Topic: review of conformance section and conformance language
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- https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2021Jun/0006
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- Steven: Topic is closed
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- Topic: interoperability and extensibility
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- https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2021Jun/0012
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- Steven: Topic is closed
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- Topic: Requirements
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- https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2021Apr/0047
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- ACTION: Steven to create list of existing requirements, so that we can identify when a new one comes
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- Topic: pragmas - a proposal
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- https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2021Jun/0003
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- MSM: Is a new feature. So therefore 1.1
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- Tom: Hmmm.
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- Steven: The risk is if you don't freeze, you never get to a release.
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- MSM: It's good to have a way of allowing extensions in an interoperable way
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- Tom: I want DTD entity resolution, and you could use pragmas for that.
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- Tom: I want a mechanism to override the ne following rule.
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- Steven: Implementations can do that anyway.
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- ... we don't have to standardise that
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- ACTION: Tom and MSM to come with a pragma proposal
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- Topic: Next meeting
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- September meeting will be Tuesday 14th September. at 15 UTC
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- s/tp [arsing/to parsing/
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- Present: MSM, Tom, Steven, Michael Gryk
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