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11:53:18 <xfq> Meeting: MiniApps WG Call
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12:03:28 <angel> zakim, agenda?
12:03:28 <Zakim> I see nothing on the agenda
12:03:47 <xfq> wenli: lifecycle
12:03:54 <xfq> qing: currently no main update
12:03:58 <xfq> ... one question
12:05:41 <xiaoqian> xfq: the TAG review comments were sent before the WG was created
12:05:54 <xiaoqian> ... need to ask them if there are any other comments
12:07:25 <xfq> present+ Jia_Wang
12:07:48 <angel> present+ Angel
12:10:08 <xiaoqian> [discuss the wide review process]
12:11:38 <xfq> present+ xuying07
12:11:47 <xiaoqian> Qing: I plan to look at the issues and update the WebIDL
12:12:04 <xiaoqian> ... then we can consider request wide review from the other groups
12:12:39 <xiaoqian> wenli: next, Manifest?
12:12:52 <xiaoqian> yongjing: not much update
12:13:08 <xiaoqian> wenli: Packaging?
12:13:47 <xiaoqian> martin: I opened a pull this week
12:13:53 <xiaoqian> ... mostly editorial
12:14:14 <xiaoqian> ... we have an i18n dir
12:14:28 <xiaoqian> ... would like to make it recommended
12:14:36 <xiaoqian> ... feedback is welcome
12:15:08 <xiaoqian> ... align with HTML extensions
12:15:19 <xiaoqian> ... using the standard terminologies
12:15:36 <xiaoqian> ... more details added for conformance
12:17:02 <xiaoqian> ... I raised an issue today
12:17:21 <xiaoqian> ... the pull has been reviewed, plan to merge it
12:17:47 <xiaoqian> ... the proposal is waiting for feedback
12:18:06 <xiaoqian> ... issue #2 about components
12:19:46 <xiaoqian> ... the proposal is about splitting the spec to have an independent document for content
12:20:22 <xiaoqian> ... similar approach in the EPub groups
12:20:59 <xiaoqian> ... please take a look at issue #30 and share your opinion
12:21:37 <martin> this is the issue: https://github.com/w3c/miniapp-packaging/issues/30
12:21:41 <xiaoqian> xfq: +1
12:22:03 <xiaoqian> tengyuan: agree with Martin
12:22:20 <xiaoqian> ... there was a paragraph about this issue
12:22:30 <xiaoqian> ... important discussion
12:23:38 <xiaoqian> martin: it's not included in the current charter
12:23:53 <xiaoqian> ... it's within the scope
12:24:53 <xiaoqian> xiaoqian: suggest a CfC in the group
12:24:58 <xiaoqian> angel: +1
12:25:29 <martin> https://github.com/w3c/miniapp-packaging/pull/29
12:25:32 <xiaoqian> yongjing: is it ok to merge the pull request?
12:25:58 <xfq> present+ zitao
12:26:09 <xiaoqian> [no objection]
12:27:00 <xiaoqian> zitao: I sent a PR last month about Manifest
12:27:15 <xiaoqian> ... any comment from the WG?
12:27:24 <xiaoqian> ... if no, would like to merge it
12:28:03 <xfq> https://github.com/w3c/miniapp-manifest/pull/23
12:28:03 <xiaoqian> xfq: there was a comment from Aeron
12:29:41 <xiaoqian> zitao: it can be merge into different type of apps
12:29:51 <xiaoqian> s/type/types
12:29:59 <xiaoqian> ... different devices
12:30:24 <xiaoqian> s/Aeron/Aaron
12:30:35 <xfq> present+ aaron
12:30:38 <xiaoqian> Aaron: need to know more about MiniApps
12:30:56 <xiaoqian> ... any recommendation about the tech architecture?
12:31:24 <xiaoqian> ... what is missing in PWAs that prevent us from doing so?
12:31:30 <xiaoqian> xfq:@@@
12:32:26 <xiaoqian> Aaron: so that metadata can be @@?
12:32:43 <xiaoqian> yongjing: it's also related to the device APIs
12:32:48 <xiaoqian> ... some APIs are lack of support
12:33:22 <xiaoqian> martin: it's important to have this metadata for the UA to understand better the potential audience
12:34:01 <xiaoqian> Wenli: next, Addressing
12:34:17 <xiaoqian> ... Dan is not here, maybe next time
12:34:42 <xiaoqian> zitao: back to the PR of the Manifest, shall we merge it?
12:35:05 <xiaoqian> xfq: we should also update the scheme and explainer
12:35:21 <xiaoqian> zitao: happy to help
12:35:47 <xiaoqian> wenli: Widget...
12:35:54 <xiaoqian> xfq: no update
12:36:17 <xiaoqian> xfq: when will be a good time to publish a FPWD of Packaging?
12:36:45 <xiaoqian> martin: once we make a decision of the splitting, we should be ready to publish a WD
12:37:01 <xiaoqian> ... others will be editorial issues
12:37:53 <xiaoqian> xfq: we have decided to take over the White Paper
12:38:00 <xiaoqian> ... there are some open issues
12:38:24 <xiaoqian> ... any volunteers to update the White Paper?
12:39:06 <xiaoqian> angel: the former editors can make a TF
12:39:22 <xiaoqian> martin: happy to join the TF and help the work
12:39:57 <xiaoqian> zitao: what will be our goal to update the White Paper?
12:40:07 <xiaoqian> ... fixing issues or rewrite it?
12:40:14 <xiaoqian> s/fixing/fix
12:41:00 <xiaoqian> xfq: some editors are not in the WG, we may need to update the editors list
12:41:12 <xiaoqian> s/editors/editor
12:41:36 <xiaoqian> angel: let's give the group one month to review the work and we can discuss the next step int the next meeting
12:42:25 <xiaoqian> wenli: Next WG meeting?
12:42:31 <xiaoqian> angel: 26 Aug?
12:42:39 <martin> +1 to 26 Aug
12:43:35 <xiaoqian> angel: in our next meeting, we may want to talk to the CG to see shall we have one TPAC meeting for both the CG and WG or two separated meetings
12:43:57 <xiaoqian> [adjourned]
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