IRC log of miniapp on 2021-07-29

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Meeting: MiniApps WG Call
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present+ wenli
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present+ qing
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present+ Wanming
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zakim, agenda?
12:03:28 [Zakim]
I see nothing on the agenda
12:03:47 [xfq]
wenli: lifecycle
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qing: currently no main update
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... one question
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xfq: the TAG review comments were sent before the WG was created
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... need to ask them if there are any other comments
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present+ Jia_Wang
12:07:48 [angel]
present+ Angel
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[discuss the wide review process]
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present+ xuying07
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Qing: I plan to look at the issues and update the WebIDL
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... then we can consider request wide review from the other groups
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wenli: next, Manifest?
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yongjing: not much update
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wenli: Packaging?
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martin: I opened a pull this week
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... mostly editorial
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... we have an i18n dir
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... would like to make it recommended
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... feedback is welcome
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... align with HTML extensions
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... using the standard terminologies
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... more details added for conformance
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... I raised an issue today
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... the pull has been reviewed, plan to merge it
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... the proposal is waiting for feedback
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... issue #2 about components
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... the proposal is about splitting the spec to have an independent document for content
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... similar approach in the EPub groups
12:20:59 [xiaoqian]
... please take a look at issue #30 and share your opinion
12:21:37 [martin]
this is the issue: https://github.com/w3c/miniapp-packaging/issues/30
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xfq: +1
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tengyuan: agree with Martin
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... there was a paragraph about this issue
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... important discussion
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martin: it's not included in the current charter
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... it's within the scope
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xiaoqian: suggest a CfC in the group
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angel: +1
12:25:29 [martin]
https://github.com/w3c/miniapp-packaging/pull/29
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yongjing: is it ok to merge the pull request?
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present+ zitao
12:26:09 [xiaoqian]
[no objection]
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zitao: I sent a PR last month about Manifest
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... any comment from the WG?
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... if no, would like to merge it
12:28:03 [xfq]
https://github.com/w3c/miniapp-manifest/pull/23
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xfq: there was a comment from Aeron
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zitao: it can be merge into different type of apps
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s/type/types
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... different devices
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s/Aeron/Aaron
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present+ aaron
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Aaron: need to know more about MiniApps
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... any recommendation about the tech architecture?
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... what is missing in PWAs that prevent us from doing so?
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xfq:@@@
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Aaron: so that metadata can be @@?
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yongjing: it's also related to the device APIs
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... some APIs are lack of support
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martin: it's important to have this metadata for the UA to understand better the potential audience
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Wenli: next, Addressing
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... Dan is not here, maybe next time
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zitao: back to the PR of the Manifest, shall we merge it?
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xfq: we should also update the scheme and explainer
12:35:21 [xiaoqian]
zitao: happy to help
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wenli: Widget...
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xfq: no update
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xfq: when will be a good time to publish a FPWD of Packaging?
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martin: once we make a decision of the splitting, we should be ready to publish a WD
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... others will be editorial issues
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xfq: we have decided to take over the White Paper
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... there are some open issues
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... any volunteers to update the White Paper?
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angel: the former editors can make a TF
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martin: happy to join the TF and help the work
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zitao: what will be our goal to update the White Paper?
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... fixing issues or rewrite it?
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s/fixing/fix
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xfq: some editors are not in the WG, we may need to update the editors list
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s/editors/editor
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angel: let's give the group one month to review the work and we can discuss the next step int the next meeting
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wenli: Next WG meeting?
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angel: 26 Aug?
12:42:39 [martin]
+1 to 26 Aug
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angel: in our next meeting, we may want to talk to the CG to see shall we have one TPAC meeting for both the CG and WG or two separated meetings
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[adjourned]
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