IRC log of aria-apg on 2021-07-27

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17:47:55 [RRSAgent]
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logging to https://www.w3.org/2021/07/27-aria-apg-irc
17:48:01 [Matt_King]
rrsagent, make log public
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zakim, clear agenda
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agenda cleared
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MEETING: ARIA Authoring Practices Task Force
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CHAIR: Jemma
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present+
17:48:43 [Matt_King]
rrsagent, make minutes
17:48:43 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/07/27-aria-apg-minutes.html Matt_King
17:49:26 [Jemma]
present+
17:52:24 [Rich_Noah]
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18:02:41 [Jemma]
agenda+ W3C Diversity Fund Application
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agenda+ Operations Manager Role
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agenda+ Let's review together!
18:03:38 [Jemma]
zakim, pick a victim
18:03:38 [Zakim]
Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Matt_King
18:03:45 [Jemma]
zakim, pick a victim
18:03:45 [Zakim]
Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Matt_King
18:04:22 [jongund]
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18:04:26 [MarkMcCarthy]
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present+
18:04:36 [Rich_Noah]
present+
18:05:01 [Jemma]
scribe: Jemma
18:05:25 [jamesn]
present+
18:05:39 [Jemma]
zakim, next
18:05:39 [Zakim]
I don't understand 'next', Jemma
18:05:48 [Jemma]
zakim, take up next item
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agendum 1 -- W3C Diversity Fund Application -- taken up [from Jemma]
18:05:48 [jongund]
present+ jongund
18:06:05 [Matt_King]
Application deadline is August 15.
18:06:06 [Jemma]
https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/wiki/July-27,-2021-Agenda
18:06:14 [Jemma]
https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/1/InclusionFund2021/
18:06:34 [jesdaigle_]
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+present
18:06:47 [Jemma]
https://www.w3.org/blog/news/archives/9161
18:07:37 [Matt_King]
These are for TPAC attendance and contributions.
18:07:47 [Jemma]
zakim, take up next item
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agendum 2 -- Operations Manager Role -- taken up [from Jemma]
18:08:14 [Jemma]
https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/wiki/Operations-Manager-Role-Description
18:08:48 [Jemma]
The purpose of the Operations Manager (Ops-Mgr) role within the APG Task Force is to:
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Enable editors and other task force members to focus on content production by keeping the infrastructure that facilitates content quality control and publication running smoothly, up-to-date, and secure.
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Continuously enhance the infrastructure to keep operations sustainable and improve efficiencies as the environment changes.
18:09:09 [sirib_]
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https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/wiki/Operations-Manager-Role-Description#ops-mgr-responsibilities
18:10:44 [Jemma]
5 responsibilities
18:12:56 [Jemma]
present+ siri
18:13:02 [Jemma]
present+ jamesn
18:13:24 [Jemma]
present+ bryangaraventa
18:13:33 [Jemma]
zakim, who is here?
18:13:33 [Zakim]
Present: Matt_King, Jemma, MarkMcCarthy, Rich_Noah, jamesn, jongund, present, siri, bryangaraventa
18:13:36 [Zakim]
On IRC I see sirib_, jesdaigle_, MarkMcCarthy, jongund, Rich_Noah, RRSAgent, Zakim, Matt_King, Jemma, github-bot, MichaelC, trackbot, s3ththompson, ZoeBijl, jamesn
18:14:55 [Jemma]
there will be the training session and will improve velocity of the work
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zakim, take up next item
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agendum 3 -- Let's review together! -- taken up [from Jemma]
18:15:20 [Jemma]
https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/wiki/July-27%2C-2021-Agenda#lets-review-together
18:15:54 [Jemma]
https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/pull/1870
18:16:02 [Jemma]
https://raw.githack.com/w3c/aria-practices/radio-rating/examples/radio/radio-rating.html
18:17:51 [Jemma]
jamesn: showing something over on hover as well as on focus
18:19:11 [Jemma]
... will be good. Other than it looks good.
18:21:10 [Jemma]
...may we add some effect(ex:hand icon) on hover to indicate that it is interactive.
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...or it is fillable
18:22:43 [Jemma]
...amazon does add hand over the star rating
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s/hand/hand image/
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rich: yelp has also similar indication of inteactive element
18:25:49 [jamesn]
https://opensource.adobe.com/spectrum-css/rating.html
18:26:51 [Jemma]
rich explain star rating behaviors in yelp.
18:30:17 [Jemma]
mck: we will add hand icon over star
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mck: clear label for "rating 1 to 5 stars"
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rich: how about "select rating"?
18:32:59 [Jemma]
change "rating 1 to 5 stars" as "rating"
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rich: how about mobile for hover action(ex:hand icon)?
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mck: mobile does not provide the hover.
18:35:58 [Jemma]
https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/wiki/Pull-Request-Review-Process#functional_review
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https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/pull/1878
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present+
18:38:01 [Jemma]
https://raw.githack.com/w3c/aria-practices/radio-coding-update/examples/radio/radio-activedescendant.html
18:42:39 [Jemma]
group is discussing functional review of radio group example - using aria-activedecednat
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s/activedecednat/activedecedant
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active decendant is needed on the group so that screen reader knows which item is checked.
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s/group/radiogroup/
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mck: pondering about conceptual consistency of having visual bordering for the group item.
18:50:54 [Jemma]
https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/pull/1895
18:51:06 [Jemma]
https://raw.githack.com/w3c/aria-practices/switch-checkbox/examples/switch/switch-checkbox.html
18:52:33 [Jemma]
codepen button needs to be added.
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mck: sharing screen reader testing regarding labeling amd labelling is very confusing
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rich: using keyboard in safari, I see the problem.
18:56:07 [Jemma]
...eratic behavior in safari
18:58:33 [jamesn]
q+ to say that the on color in WHCM should he "Highlight" and the off should be the default color
18:59:04 [Jemma]
mck: we dont need on and off inside of lable tag. this may be causing confusing label problem
19:03:04 [Jemma]
...potentially tabbing issues for the example.
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jemma: we can continue this discussion next Tuesday.
19:03:26 [Jemma]
rrsagent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/07/27-aria-apg-minutes.html Jemma