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17:48:08 <Matt_King> zakim, clear agenda
17:48:08 <Zakim> agenda cleared
17:48:22 <Matt_King> MEETING: ARIA Authoring Practices Task Force
17:48:29 <Matt_King> CHAIR: Jemma
17:48:35 <Matt_King> present+
17:48:43 <Matt_King> rrsagent, make minutes
17:48:43 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/07/27-aria-apg-minutes.html Matt_King
17:49:26 <Jemma> present+
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18:02:41 <Jemma> agenda+ W3C Diversity Fund Application
18:03:10 <Jemma> agenda+ Operations Manager Role
18:03:26 <Jemma> agenda+ Let's review together!
18:03:38 <Jemma> zakim, pick a victim
18:03:38 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Matt_King
18:03:45 <Jemma> zakim, pick a victim
18:03:45 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Matt_King
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18:04:35 <MarkMcCarthy> present+
18:04:36 <Rich_Noah> present+
18:05:01 <Jemma> scribe: Jemma
18:05:25 <jamesn> present+
18:05:39 <Jemma> zakim, next
18:05:39 <Zakim> I don't understand 'next', Jemma
18:05:48 <Jemma> zakim, take up next item
18:05:48 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- W3C Diversity Fund Application -- taken up [from Jemma]
18:05:48 <jongund> present+ jongund
18:06:05 <Matt_King> Application deadline is August 15.
18:06:06 <Jemma> https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/wiki/July-27,-2021-Agenda
18:06:14 <Jemma> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/1/InclusionFund2021/
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18:06:43 <jesdaigle_> +present
18:06:47 <Jemma> https://www.w3.org/blog/news/archives/9161
18:07:37 <Matt_King> These are for TPAC attendance and contributions.
18:07:47 <Jemma> zakim, take up next item
18:07:47 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- Operations Manager Role -- taken up [from Jemma]
18:08:14 <Jemma> https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/wiki/Operations-Manager-Role-Description
18:08:48 <Jemma> The purpose of the Operations Manager (Ops-Mgr) role within the APG Task Force is to:
18:08:48 <Jemma> 
18:08:48 <Jemma> Enable editors and other task force members to focus on content production by keeping the infrastructure that facilitates content quality control and publication running smoothly, up-to-date, and secure.
18:08:48 <Jemma> Continuously enhance the infrastructure to keep operations sustainable and improve efficiencies as the environment changes.
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18:10:16 <Jemma> https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/wiki/Operations-Manager-Role-Description#ops-mgr-responsibilities
18:10:44 <Jemma> 5 responsibilities
18:12:56 <Jemma> present+ siri
18:13:02 <Jemma> present+ jamesn
18:13:24 <Jemma> present+ bryangaraventa
18:13:33 <Jemma> zakim, who is here?
18:13:33 <Zakim> Present: Matt_King, Jemma, MarkMcCarthy, Rich_Noah, jamesn, jongund, present, siri, bryangaraventa
18:13:36 <Zakim> On IRC I see sirib_, jesdaigle_, MarkMcCarthy, jongund, Rich_Noah, RRSAgent, Zakim, Matt_King, Jemma, github-bot, MichaelC, trackbot, s3ththompson, ZoeBijl, jamesn
18:14:55 <Jemma> there will be the training session and will improve velocity of the work
18:15:00 <Jemma> zakim, take up next item
18:15:00 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- Let's review together! -- taken up [from Jemma]
18:15:20 <Jemma> https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/wiki/July-27%2C-2021-Agenda#lets-review-together
18:15:54 <Jemma> https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/pull/1870
18:16:02 <Jemma> https://raw.githack.com/w3c/aria-practices/radio-rating/examples/radio/radio-rating.html
18:17:51 <Jemma> jamesn: showing something over on hover as well as on focus
18:19:11 <Jemma> ... will be good. Other than it looks good.
18:21:10 <Jemma> ...may we add some effect(ex:hand icon) on hover to indicate that it is interactive.
18:21:29 <Jemma> ...or it is fillable
18:22:43 <Jemma> ...amazon does add hand over the star rating
18:23:20 <Jemma> s/hand/hand image/
18:23:45 <Jemma> rich: yelp has also similar indication of inteactive element
18:25:49 <jamesn> https://opensource.adobe.com/spectrum-css/rating.html
18:26:51 <Jemma> rich explain star rating behaviors in yelp.
18:30:17 <Jemma> mck: we will add hand icon over star
18:30:57 <Jemma> mck: clear label for "rating 1 to 5 stars"
18:31:16 <Jemma> rich: how about "select rating"?
18:32:59 <Jemma> change "rating 1 to 5 stars" as "rating"
18:33:18 <Jemma> rich: how about mobile for hover action(ex:hand icon)?
18:33:35 <Jemma> mck: mobile does not provide the hover.
18:35:58 <Jemma> https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/wiki/Pull-Request-Review-Process#functional_review
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18:37:39 <Jemma> https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/pull/1878
18:38:01 <CurtBellew> present+
18:38:01 <Jemma> https://raw.githack.com/w3c/aria-practices/radio-coding-update/examples/radio/radio-activedescendant.html
18:42:39 <Jemma> group is discussing functional review of radio group example - using aria-activedecednat
18:43:18 <Jemma> s/activedecednat/activedecedant
18:44:15 <Jemma> active decendant is needed on the group so that screen reader knows which item is checked.
18:44:39 <Jemma> s/group/radiogroup/
18:48:02 <Jemma> mck: pondering about conceptual consistency of having visual bordering for the group item.
18:50:54 <Jemma> https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/pull/1895
18:51:06 <Jemma> https://raw.githack.com/w3c/aria-practices/switch-checkbox/examples/switch/switch-checkbox.html
18:52:33 <Jemma> codepen button needs to be added.
18:54:14 <Jemma> mck: sharing screen reader testing regarding labeling amd labelling is very confusing
18:55:02 <Jemma> rich: using keyboard in safari, I see the problem.
18:56:07 <Jemma> ...eratic behavior in safari
18:58:33 <jamesn> q+ to say that the on color in WHCM should he "Highlight" and the off should be the default color
18:59:04 <Jemma> mck: we dont need on and off inside of lable tag. this may be causing confusing label problem
19:03:04 <Jemma> ...potentially tabbing issues for the example.
19:03:20 <Jemma> jemma: we can continue this discussion next Tuesday.
19:03:26 <Jemma> rrsagent, make minutes
19:03:26 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/07/27-aria-apg-minutes.html Jemma