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14:02:21 <kaz> meeting: WoT Discovery
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14:02:47 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Andrea_Cimmino, Christian_Glomb, Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_McCool
14:02:57 <kaz> present+ Farshid_Tavakolizadeh
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14:04:56 <kaz> present+ Tomoaki_Mizushima
14:05:17 <kaz> Agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/WG_WoT_Discovery_WebConf#26_July_2021
14:05:24 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
14:05:28 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:05:28 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/07/26-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz
14:06:03 <kaz> chair: McCool
14:07:10 <kaz> scribenick: acimmino
14:07:44 <acimmino> meeting will last 2h
14:08:18 <acimmino> meeting starts reviewing last meeting's minutes
14:08:37 <kaz> i/last/topic: Preliminary/
14:08:53 <kaz> i/start/topic: Minutes/
14:08:59 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2021/07/19-wot-discovery-minutes.html July-19
14:09:19 <acimmino> mccool: since no objections are presented, minutes are published
14:09:58 <acimmino> mccool: ...next thing to discuss is cancellations, in august no discovery calls will occur
14:10:17 <kaz> i/next thing/topic: Cancellation schedule/
14:10:23 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:10:23 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/07/26-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz
14:11:07 <kaz> s/topic: Preliminary//
14:11:15 <kaz> i/meeting will last/topic: Preliminary/
14:11:20 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:11:20 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/07/26-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz
14:12:35 <acimmino> mccool: ..regarding the timeline likely we will need an extension of 6 months
14:13:19 <acimmino> mccool:..if we add 6 months we will end up in January or Febrary, when we should have the CR transition
14:13:28 <acimmino> ...we need also the implementations
14:14:10 <kaz> i/regarding/topic: Publication timelines/
14:14:11 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:14:11 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/07/26-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz
14:14:32 <kaz> s/...next/next/
14:14:40 <kaz> s/..if/ if/
14:15:18 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:15:18 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/07/26-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz
14:15:45 <kaz> s/..regarding/regarding/
14:15:47 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:15:47 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/07/26-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz
14:17:53 <acimmino> mccool is setting up the schedule for the charter end date
14:21:06 <acimmino> mccool: if we have a test fest in september, it will be pretty much the spec
14:21:25 <acimmino> mccool:since farshid will not be available, we could do instead the testfest early october
14:21:48 <McCool> https://www.w3.org/wiki/TPAC/2021
14:22:19 <acimmino> mccool: we could have the test fest a week before the breakout sessions
14:22:37 <kaz> [[
14:22:38 <kaz> 12 October: AC Meeting
14:22:38 <kaz> 18 - 22 October : Breakout sessions
14:22:38 <kaz> 25 - 29 October : WG/IG/BG/CG meetings and Joint Group Meetings
14:22:39 <kaz> ]]
14:23:16 <acimmino> ...the week of the 11th is probably a good week for the testfest
14:23:31 <kaz> s/...the/mccool: the/
14:26:07 <acimmino> mccool: one of our outcomes should be an implementation report
14:26:14 <acimmino> ...for discovery
14:26:48 <acimmino> ...we should start looking at the list of assertions to check which one are testable
14:30:08 <acimmino> mccool: ...we need implementation descriptions, and start gathering the implementations information
14:33:01 <kaz> i/one of our/topic: Testing/
14:33:59 <kaz> i|one of our|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/tree/main/implementations WoT Discovery Implementations|
14:34:24 <acimmino> mccool: we need to talk also about testing. We need a test plan
14:34:35 <acimmino> ... we need to organise where the test are
14:35:00 <acimmino> mcool: farshid has done some work on this line
14:36:36 <acimmino> acimmino: one of the main problems in the test iis the ordering of the array
14:36:59 <acimmino> mccool: well we will change the context to solve this
14:37:23 <kaz> s/ iis/ is/
14:37:33 <kaz> s/mcool:/mccool:/
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14:42:21 <FarshidT> Related issue for JSON Array ordering: https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/issues/1188
14:43:07 <FarshidT> I think the spec does say indirectly that the order should be maintained: "A value of type Array MUST be serialized as JSON array". JSON arrays have a consistent ordering.
14:43:20 <acimmino> mccool: is drafting a testing plan
14:44:06 <acimmino> this plan should be the outcome of the testfest
14:44:47 <kaz> q?
14:48:56 <acimmino> mccool: October up to December we work on test of the implementation
14:50:01 <ktoumura> q+
14:50:55 <kaz> ack kt
14:55:28 <kaz> toumura: wondering about the procedure for the IANA consideration
14:55:38 <kaz> kaz: we should talk with PLH
14:55:57 <kaz> ... this is a bit different from the usual IANA registry for Media Types
14:56:07 <kaz> i/wondering/scribenik: kaz/
14:56:14 <McCool> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/187
14:56:45 <acimmino> mccool: we should close the issues we have opened, as suggested by farshid, before doing a feature freezing
14:57:00 <acimmino> mccool: ..for the implenetations
14:57:21 <kaz> i/mccool/toumura: I have Issu 187 on that/
14:57:31 <kaz> s/Issu/Issue/
14:57:51 <kaz> s/https/-> https/
14:58:01 <kaz> s/187/187 Issue 187 - Registration of Well-known URI, Service Name and CoRE Resource Type/
14:58:07 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:58:07 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/07/26-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz
14:58:28 <acimmino> farshid has annotated some Issues that could be closed
14:58:35 <acimmino> mccool is currently reviewing these
14:58:58 <acimmino> issue #9 gets closed since no objections are presented
14:59:09 <McCool> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/9
14:59:21 <kaz> i/farshid/topic: Issues to be closed/
14:59:29 <kaz> s/https/-> https/
14:59:34 <McCool> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/labels/Propose%20Closing
14:59:53 <kaz> s|issues/9|issues/9 Issue 9 - Create structure to organize PoCs|
15:00:11 <kaz> s/https/-> https/
15:00:21 <kaz> s/Closing/Closing - Issues to be closed/
15:00:25 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:00:25 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/07/26-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz
15:00:50 <kaz> s/scribenik:/scribenick:/
15:01:08 <kaz> i/we should close/scribenick: acimmino/
15:01:23 <kaz> i/I have Issue 187/scribenick: kaz/
15:01:42 <kaz> i/for the imple/scribenick: acimmino/
15:01:53 <kaz> s/..for/for/
15:02:06 <kaz> s/implenetations/implementations/
15:02:06 <acimmino> next issue to close is issue #16
15:02:10 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:02:10 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/07/26-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz
15:02:24 <acimmino> but for the moment it will be left opened
15:02:49 <acimmino> next issue to be review is #21
15:03:00 <kaz> s/ - Issues/ Issues/
15:03:01 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:03:01 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/07/26-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz
15:04:53 <kaz> i|issue #16|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/16 Issue 16 - Handle huge set of Thing Descriptions (pagination, streaming, etc.)|
15:05:26 <acimmino> since no objections are presented the issue is closed
15:05:35 <kaz> i|since|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/21 Issue 21 - Consider Role "Part of" TDs in Query Results|
15:07:00 <kaz> next issue is #63
15:07:09 <acimmino> next issue to be review is # 63, due to the lack of objections, the issue is closed
15:07:26 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/63 Issue 63 - How to deal with JSON-LD fragments in query responses
15:07:30 <kaz> s/next issue is #63//
15:09:17 <acimmino> next issue is #28, which is also closed
15:09:23 <acimmino> next issue is #53
15:09:29 <kaz> i|#53|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/28 Issue 28 - Directories should notify subscribers when a TD is updated|
15:09:57 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/53 Issue 53 - Clarifying Introduction Mechanisms
15:16:10 <kaz> closed
15:16:17 <kaz> next issue #144
15:16:29 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/144 Issue 144 - Which aspects of the Directory Service API's TD are normative?
15:16:49 <kaz> i/closed/scribenick: kaz/
15:18:11 <acimmino> since no objections are presented for closing the issue, issue 53 is also closed.
15:18:25 <acimmino> next issue is #144 which is also closed
15:18:33 <kaz> i/since/scribenick: acimmino/
15:18:46 <acimmino> next issue is #86
15:19:05 <acimmino> that has been closed, mccool has also add a clarification in the clousure
15:19:36 <kaz> s|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/144 Issue 144 - Which aspects of the Directory Service API's TD are normative?||
15:19:50 <kaz> s/next issue #144//
15:20:19 <kaz> i|#144|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/144 Issue 144 - Which aspects of the Directory Service API's TD are normative?|
15:20:31 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:20:31 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/07/26-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz
15:21:15 <acimmino> next issue to be review is #183
15:22:44 <kaz> i|#86|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/86 Issue 86 - "Thing description" for Directory should be a "Thing Model"|
15:23:30 <kaz> i|#183|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/183 Issue 183 - Identifying what information is conveyed in the TD and what is conveyed in the text|
15:24:12 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/215 related PR 215 - Add HTTP paths to assertions
15:24:17 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:24:17 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/07/26-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz
15:29:00 <acimmino> mccool: we should mmake the scopes for OAuth normative
15:29:37 <acimmino> mccool: the thing with this issue is that it has a lot of smaller issues, we should close this and create those smaller issues instead
15:34:49 <acimmino> mccool: maybe we should label as discuss to have some work tracked down
15:35:08 <acimmino> farshid: there is a PR, if we close it we could close issue #60
15:35:57 <kaz> s/mmake/make/
15:36:03 <acimmino> current issue under review is #213, about alternative pagination
15:39:23 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:39:23 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/07/26-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz
15:41:34 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/213 PR 213 - Add alternative payload format (2)
15:42:41 <kaz> s/current issue/current PR/
15:44:13 <acimmino> next issue to be review is #39
15:50:00 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/39 Issue 39 - Immutable Thing Description IDs inside the directory
15:51:08 <acimmino> there is a resolution for closing the issue, and therefore, issue #39 is closed
15:57:46 <kaz> next Issue is 208
15:58:03 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/208 Issue 208 - Read-Only Directories
16:02:44 <acimmino> meeting finishes due to time
16:20:00 <kaz> [adjourned]
16:20:09 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
16:20:09 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/07/26-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz
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