IRC log of personalization on 2021-07-19
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- 14:06:42 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- present?
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- 14:07:25 [mike_beganyi]
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- agenda?
- 14:07:53 [Matthew_Atkinson]
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 1 -- W3C Events Team survey due 20 August 2021 -- taken up [from Lionel_Wolberger]
- 14:08:33 [Matthew_Atkinson]
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- 14:08:54 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/34257/TPAC2021-F2FSocial/
- 14:09:16 [Matthew_Atkinson]
- zakim, next item
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- agendum 1 was just opened, Matthew_Atkinson
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- zakim, close this item
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- agendum 1 closed
- 14:09:22 [Matthew_Atkinson]
- zakim, next item
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- I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
- 14:09:22 [Zakim]
- 2. TPAC planning, prioritize the list [from Lionel_Wolberger]
- 14:09:22 [Zakim]
- agendum 2 -- TPAC planning, prioritize the list -- taken up [from Lionel_Wolberger]
- 14:09:49 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2021
- 14:10:12 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- - HTML + WhatWG?: Pronunciation and Personalization regarding new attributes - Low Vision TF: Personalization to introduce our work - COGA - helping personalization prioritize module 2, introductions, etc. - Publishing / EPUB - Misc? --- Timed Text --- Horizontal Review groups --- WebGPU? --- DID (Decentralized Identifiers) --- Payments?
- 14:10:20 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- - HTML + WhatWG?: Pronunciation and Personalization regarding new attributes
- 14:10:33 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- - Low Vision TF: Personalization to introduce our work
- 14:10:40 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- - COGA - helping personalization prioritize module 2, introductions, etc.
- 14:10:46 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- - Publishing / EPUB
- 14:10:55 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- --- Timed Text
- 14:10:58 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- --- Horizontal Review groups
- 14:11:01 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- --- WebGPU?
- 14:11:04 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- --- DID (Decentralized Identifiers)
- 14:11:06 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- --- Payments?
- 14:13:08 [mike_beganyi]
- janina: good list, Lionel. file github for permanent prefix but too early for that ... LowVision perhaps: might be more exploratory. open to discussion...COGA is interesting. we should do it. most of module 1 came out of COGA
- 14:13:33 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- q?
- 14:14:03 [mike_beganyi]
- LisaSeemanKest: COGA creating processes for working with other groups...meeting is important
- 14:14:48 [mike_beganyi]
- janina: i18n is missing from the list. suggested a meeting time. hope to meet before TPAC.
- 14:14:52 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- q?
- 14:16:43 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- q?
- 14:17:18 [mike_beganyi]
- CharlesL: Epub not on list. interest in the publishing working group. groups working on plan past epub. might make sense to engage with community group.
- 14:17:40 [CharlesL]
- s/Epub/EPUB
- 14:17:47 [CharlesL]
- s/epub/EPUB
- 14:18:55 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- q?
- 14:22:03 [mike_beganyi]
- Lionel_Wolberger: to summarize groups: COGA, i18n, LowVision, Silver, EPUB
- 14:22:59 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- q?
- 14:26:08 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- q?
- 14:27:03 [JF]
- +1
- 14:27:06 [Matthew_Atkinson]
- +1
- 14:27:12 [CharlesL]
- +1 correct groups involved
- 14:27:14 [mike_beganyi]
- Lionel_Wolberger: please plus one to confirm the groups
- 14:27:21 [Roy]
- +1
- 14:27:25 [mike_beganyi]
- +1
- 14:27:25 [sharon]
- +1
- 14:27:30 [JF]
- not just "Silver", but rather AG WG
- 14:28:44 [JF]
- Q+
- 14:30:52 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- Lionel_Wolberger: lionel asks JF, are you addressing this discussion?
- 14:35:19 [mike_beganyi]
- JF: we should reach out to WG AG. janina: agree with that. Do not need permission to meet with LowVision, COGA, and Silver
- 14:36:36 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- Lionel_Wolberger: Lionel to Charles, is this it? Accessibility Feature? https://schema.org/accessibilityFeature
- 14:37:53 [mike_beganyi]
- CharlesL: we have a Wiki page, we have the values, and now we want to move it into a formalized area. has been taken up by publishing group as it is mostly related to them. now, where does it belong? new TF under APA? if we go community group route, there is a longer process.
- 14:38:07 [JF]
- Q+ to note that Silver was both a Community group AND a Task Force
- 14:38:34 [mike_beganyi]
- janina: more tasks to the process of officiating processes
- 14:39:17 [mike_beganyi]
- janina: would ping the working group chairs so they are aware
- 14:39:51 [mike_beganyi]
- CharlesL: create an e-mail campaign to formalize?
- 14:40:21 [mike_beganyi]
- janina: if there is enough interest and sufficient resources, then yes to garner interest
- 14:41:03 [mike_beganyi]
- CharlesL: lots of time to create and submit metadata to schema.org. if metadata is complete enough it can just be submitted to W3C
- 14:41:46 [Matthew_Atkinson]
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- 14:41:47 [mike_beganyi]
- JF: lot of work to move it into schema.org given past experiences with WCAG 2.1
- 14:42:27 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- q?
- 14:42:48 [mike_beganyi]
- JF: Silver was both TF and community group. janina: not exactly that. could have been misrepresented.
- 14:43:05 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- ack JF
- 14:43:05 [Zakim]
- JF, you wanted to note that Silver was both a Community group AND a Task Force
- 14:44:33 [mike_beganyi]
- janina: clarifies nuances of community group task force, task force. community group, etc. the important difference is advancing a document to status.
- 14:45:50 [CharlesL]
- https://w3c.github.io/publ-a11y/UX-Guide-Metadata/principles/
- 14:46:16 [mike_beganyi]
- Lionel_Wolberger: we discussed the activities that Madeline Rothberg and schema.org and their significance to personalization, APA, Publsihing, and COGA.
- 14:46:27 [CharlesL]
- https://www.w3.org/wiki/WebSchemas/Accessibility
- 14:48:33 [mike_beganyi]
- Lionel_Wolberger: reason why these are significant is because there are certain properties that are of interest.
- 14:48:44 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- q?
- 14:49:01 [mike_beganyi]
- janina: potential for global glossary so that groups aren't defining their own terms
- 14:49:01 [CharlesL]
- Current Accessibility properties are: accessibilityFeature, accessibilityHazard, accessibilityControl, accessMode, accessModeSufficient, and accessibilitySummary
- 14:50:48 [mike_beganyi]
- Lionel_Wolberger: proposing to meet with EPUB Publishing. the topic just discussed would be its own meeting
- 14:51:40 [mike_beganyi]
- Lionel_Wolberger: volunteer to have the meeting added to the Wiki
- 14:51:59 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- APA EPUB/Publishing: properties (in schema.org) as it relates APA and W3C
- 14:52:05 [mike_beganyi]
- becky: will add this to Wiki. (meeting to discuss properties and schema.org as it relates to W3C and APA
- 14:54:24 [mike_beganyi]
- Lionel_Wolberger: one meeting together? janina: if it's just an overview of what we're doing here, then yes
- 14:54:51 [mike_beganyi]
- becky: we want a meeting to include EPUB and Silver to introduce Personalization and Pronunciation
- 14:56:21 [mike_beganyi]
- Lionel_Wolberger: overview meeting. APA will do it on our behalf. we will invite Silver, LowVision, and EPUB for overview meeting
- 14:57:12 [mike_beganyi]
- Lionel_Wolberger: COGA modules
- 14:57:53 [mike_beganyi]
- LisaSeemanKest: raise awareness of COGA
- 14:57:58 [mike_beganyi]
- becky: should we invite COGA?
- 14:58:47 [mike_beganyi]
- LisaSeemanKest: modules could have details that overview might not cover
- 14:59:18 [LisaSeemanKest]
- i have to go to a follow on meeting
- 14:59:26 [LisaSeemanKest]
- see u next week
- 14:59:39 [mike_beganyi]
- janina: i18n meeting to discuss issue 144
- 15:01:38 [Matthew_Atkinson]
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- 15:02:17 [janina]
- present+Have fun, Charles!
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