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14:06:42 <Lionel_Wolberger> present?
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14:07:25 <mike_beganyi> scribe: mike_beganyi
14:07:31 <Roy> agenda?
14:07:53 <Matthew_Atkinson> RRSAgent, make minutes
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14:08:29 <Matthew_Atkinson> zakim, next item
14:08:29 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- W3C Events Team survey due 20 August 2021 -- taken up [from Lionel_Wolberger]
14:08:33 <Matthew_Atkinson> RRSAgent, make minutes
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14:08:54 <Lionel_Wolberger> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/34257/TPAC2021-F2FSocial/
14:09:16 <Matthew_Atkinson> zakim, next item
14:09:16 <Zakim> agendum 1 was just opened, Matthew_Atkinson
14:09:21 <Matthew_Atkinson> zakim, close this item
14:09:21 <Zakim> agendum 1 closed
14:09:22 <Matthew_Atkinson> zakim, next item
14:09:22 <Zakim> I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:09:22 <Zakim> 2. TPAC planning, prioritize the list [from Lionel_Wolberger]
14:09:22 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- TPAC planning, prioritize the list -- taken up [from Lionel_Wolberger]
14:09:49 <Lionel_Wolberger> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2021
14:10:12 <Lionel_Wolberger> - HTML + WhatWG?: Pronunciation and Personalization regarding new attributes - Low Vision TF: Personalization to introduce our work - COGA - helping personalization prioritize module 2, introductions, etc. - Publishing / EPUB - Misc?  --- Timed Text --- Horizontal Review groups --- WebGPU? --- DID (Decentralized Identifiers) --- Payments?
14:10:20 <Lionel_Wolberger> - HTML + WhatWG?: Pronunciation and Personalization regarding new attributes
14:10:33 <Lionel_Wolberger> - Low Vision TF: Personalization to introduce our work
14:10:40 <Lionel_Wolberger> - COGA - helping personalization prioritize module 2, introductions, etc.
14:10:46 <Lionel_Wolberger> - Publishing / EPUB
14:10:55 <Lionel_Wolberger> --- Timed Text
14:10:58 <Lionel_Wolberger> --- Horizontal Review groups
14:11:01 <Lionel_Wolberger> --- WebGPU?
14:11:04 <Lionel_Wolberger> --- DID (Decentralized Identifiers)
14:11:06 <Lionel_Wolberger> --- Payments?
14:13:08 <mike_beganyi> janina: good list, Lionel. file github for permanent prefix but too early for that ... LowVision perhaps: might be more exploratory. open to discussion...COGA is interesting. we should do it. most of module 1 came out of COGA
14:13:33 <Lionel_Wolberger> q?
14:14:03 <mike_beganyi> LisaSeemanKest: COGA creating processes for working with other groups...meeting is important
14:14:48 <mike_beganyi> janina: i18n is missing from the list. suggested a meeting time. hope to meet before TPAC.
14:14:52 <Lionel_Wolberger> q?
14:16:43 <Lionel_Wolberger> q?
14:17:18 <mike_beganyi> CharlesL: Epub not on list. interest in the publishing working group. groups working on plan past epub. might make sense to engage with community group.
14:17:40 <CharlesL> s/Epub/EPUB
14:17:47 <CharlesL> s/epub/EPUB
14:18:55 <Lionel_Wolberger> q?
14:22:03 <mike_beganyi> Lionel_Wolberger: to summarize groups: COGA, i18n, LowVision, Silver, EPUB
14:22:59 <Lionel_Wolberger> q?
14:26:08 <Lionel_Wolberger> q?
14:27:03 <JF> +1
14:27:06 <Matthew_Atkinson> +1
14:27:12 <CharlesL> +1 correct groups involved
14:27:14 <mike_beganyi> Lionel_Wolberger: please plus one to confirm the groups
14:27:21 <Roy> +1
14:27:25 <mike_beganyi> +1
14:27:25 <sharon> +1
14:27:30 <JF> not just "Silver", but rather AG WG
14:28:44 <JF> Q+
14:30:52 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: lionel asks JF, are you addressing this discussion?
14:35:19 <mike_beganyi> JF: we should reach out to WG AG. janina: agree with that. Do not need permission to meet with LowVision, COGA, and Silver
14:36:36 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: Lionel to Charles, is this it? Accessibility Feature? https://schema.org/accessibilityFeature
14:37:53 <mike_beganyi> CharlesL: we have a Wiki page, we have the values, and now we want to move it into a formalized area. has been taken up by publishing group as it is mostly related to them. now, where does it belong? new TF under APA? if we go community group route, there is a longer process.
14:38:07 <JF> Q+ to note that Silver was both a Community group AND a Task Force
14:38:34 <mike_beganyi> janina: more tasks to the process of officiating processes
14:39:17 <mike_beganyi> janina: would ping the working group chairs so they are aware
14:39:51 <mike_beganyi> CharlesL: create an e-mail campaign to formalize?
14:40:21 <mike_beganyi> janina: if there is enough interest and sufficient resources, then yes to garner interest
14:41:03 <mike_beganyi> CharlesL: lots of time to create and submit metadata to schema.org. if metadata is complete enough it can just be submitted to W3C
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14:41:47 <mike_beganyi> JF: lot of work to move it into schema.org given past experiences with WCAG 2.1
14:42:27 <Lionel_Wolberger> q?
14:42:48 <mike_beganyi> JF: Silver was both TF and community group. janina: not exactly that. could have been misrepresented.
14:43:05 <Lionel_Wolberger> ack JF
14:43:05 <Zakim> JF, you wanted to note that Silver was both a Community group AND a Task Force
14:44:33 <mike_beganyi> janina: clarifies nuances of community group task force, task force. community group, etc. the important difference is advancing a document to status.
14:45:50 <CharlesL> https://w3c.github.io/publ-a11y/UX-Guide-Metadata/principles/
14:46:16 <mike_beganyi> Lionel_Wolberger: we discussed the activities that Madeline Rothberg and schema.org and their significance to personalization, APA, Publsihing, and COGA.
14:46:27 <CharlesL> https://www.w3.org/wiki/WebSchemas/Accessibility
14:48:33 <mike_beganyi> Lionel_Wolberger: reason why these are significant is because there are certain properties that are of interest.
14:48:44 <Lionel_Wolberger> q?
14:49:01 <mike_beganyi> janina: potential for global glossary so that groups aren't defining their own terms
14:49:01 <CharlesL> Current Accessibility properties are: accessibilityFeature, accessibilityHazard, accessibilityControl, accessMode, accessModeSufficient, and accessibilitySummary
14:50:48 <mike_beganyi> Lionel_Wolberger: proposing to meet with EPUB Publishing. the topic just discussed would be its own meeting
14:51:40 <mike_beganyi> Lionel_Wolberger: volunteer to have the meeting added to the Wiki
14:51:59 <Lionel_Wolberger> APA EPUB/Publishing: properties (in schema.org) as it relates APA and W3C
14:52:05 <mike_beganyi> becky: will add this to Wiki. (meeting to discuss properties and schema.org as it relates to W3C and APA
14:54:24 <mike_beganyi> Lionel_Wolberger: one meeting together? janina: if it's just an overview of what we're doing here, then yes
14:54:51 <mike_beganyi> becky: we want a meeting to include EPUB and Silver to introduce Personalization and Pronunciation
14:56:21 <mike_beganyi> Lionel_Wolberger: overview meeting. APA will do it on our behalf. we will invite Silver, LowVision, and EPUB for overview meeting
14:57:12 <mike_beganyi> Lionel_Wolberger: COGA modules
14:57:53 <mike_beganyi> LisaSeemanKest: raise awareness of COGA
14:57:58 <mike_beganyi> becky: should we invite COGA?
14:58:47 <mike_beganyi> LisaSeemanKest: modules could have details that overview might not cover
14:59:18 <LisaSeemanKest> i have to go to a follow on meeting
14:59:26 <LisaSeemanKest> see u next week
14:59:39 <mike_beganyi> janina: i18n meeting to discuss issue 144
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15:02:17 <janina> present+Have fun, Charles!
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