14:12:35 RRSAgent has joined #w3process 14:12:35 logging to https://www.w3.org/2021/07/14-w3process-irc 14:12:37 RRSAgent, make logs Public 14:12:38 Meeting: Revising W3C Process Community Group 14:12:44 zakim, who is here? 14:12:44 Present: florian, weiler 14:12:46 On IRC I see RRSAgent, TallTed, jeff, fantasai, Zakim, plh, tzviya, dsinger, github-bot, join_subline, michaelchampion, timeless, astearns, Mek, florian, misalias_, cwilso, 14:12:46 ... wseltzer, weiler 14:12:52 present+ 14:13:13 ScribeNick: fantasai 14:13:34 Florian: Proposed resolutions for this call include 14:13:48 florian: Accepting PR #539 14:13:54 florian: as-is 14:14:08 florian: and accepting PR #541 with Sam's proposed tweak to link to the right sectionof the HR document 14:14:21 florian: and sending the Process to the AB/AC for ballot 14:14:33 fantasai: dsinger also called out https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues/552 14:15:14 in https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-w3process/2021Jul/0000.html 14:15:32 florian: Forgot about that one, but support the edit. 14:16:08 florian: Though it's strictly an addition, so if no consensus we can add next cycle 14:17:15 weiler: I'm concerned about adding words, seems unnecessary. 14:17:37 florian: I think if it's controversial and not many people have reviewed, can wait until next cycle 14:17:47 florian: It's a good practice regardless 14:18:05 weiler: Sentence in a document doesn't help 14:18:23 s/document/70 page document/ 14:18:26 florian: Gives creditibility to Team / Chairs if they point out that it ought to be done 14:18:54 fantasai: A lot of times I have to pester people to post their slides, it's a common problem 14:19:07 ??: I've been in several meetings that they didn't post until asked. 14:19:37 ??: Requiring deletion if you add more words isn't a good rule. 14:19:54 s/??/Ted/ 14:19:54 s/??/Ted/ 14:20:13 [culture change doesn't come from this document] 14:20:19 florian: Over meetings had to ask people, adding wouldn't change needing to ask 14:20:32 florian: would help in cases of pushing back 14:20:48 Ted: They were pushing back. Decks were in private space and shared over meeting, and so they were pushing back hard. 14:21:05 weiler: Then not just a clarification 14:21:17 Ted: We know this, but not part of everyone's culture 14:21:33 Ted: putting it in official policy makes it easier to make it part of their acculturation 14:21:44 florian: This is why I support the edit, but as a chair, we're at the end of a long cycle 14:21:56 florian: I don't think it's urgent, we could take it at end of next cycle 14:22:14 s/urgent/urgent, so if there is controversy,/ 14:23:07 fantasai: It is a "should", so, unlikely to be a problem 14:23:25 florian: Sam, are you convinced or do you want next cycle? 14:23:29 weiler: Defer 14:23:58 RESOLVED: Defer 14:24:31 RESOLVED: Accept PR 539 as-is 14:24:47 RESOLVED: Accept PR 541 with Sam's suggestion to link to right section of HR document 14:25:05 florian: Anyone else have anything else to say before sending this onword? 14:25:07 [silence] 14:25:15 RESOLVED: Send Process onward to formal ballot 14:25:34 s/Defer/Defere 552/ 14:25:43 s/Defere/Defer/ 14:25:47 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/07/14-w3process-minutes.html fantasai 14:26:05 florian: Unless anything else to add to agenda, we will adjourn 14:26:11 Meeting closed. 14:26:22 present+ 14:26:36 RRSAgent, draft minutes 14:26:36 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/07/14-w3process-minutes.html TallTed 16:46:35 tantek has joined #w3process 16:52:22 Zakim has left #w3process 18:50:46 jeff has joined #w3process