IRC log of w3process on 2021-07-14
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- RRSAgent, make logs Public
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- Meeting: Revising W3C Process Community Group
- 14:12:44 [dsinger]
- zakim, who is here?
- 14:12:44 [Zakim]
- Present: florian, weiler
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- On IRC I see RRSAgent, TallTed, jeff, fantasai, Zakim, plh, tzviya, dsinger, github-bot, join_subline, michaelchampion, timeless, astearns, Mek, florian, misalias_, cwilso,
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- ... wseltzer, weiler
- 14:12:52 [fantasai]
- present+
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- ScribeNick: fantasai
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- Florian: Proposed resolutions for this call include
- 14:13:48 [fantasai]
- florian: Accepting PR #539
- 14:13:54 [fantasai]
- florian: as-is
- 14:14:08 [fantasai]
- florian: and accepting PR #541 with Sam's proposed tweak to link to the right sectionof the HR document
- 14:14:21 [fantasai]
- florian: and sending the Process to the AB/AC for ballot
- 14:14:33 [fantasai]
- fantasai: dsinger also called out https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues/552
- 14:15:14 [fantasai]
- in https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-w3process/2021Jul/0000.html
- 14:15:32 [fantasai]
- florian: Forgot about that one, but support the edit.
- 14:16:08 [fantasai]
- florian: Though it's strictly an addition, so if no consensus we can add next cycle
- 14:17:15 [fantasai]
- weiler: I'm concerned about adding words, seems unnecessary.
- 14:17:37 [fantasai]
- florian: I think if it's controversial and not many people have reviewed, can wait until next cycle
- 14:17:47 [fantasai]
- florian: It's a good practice regardless
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- weiler: Sentence in a document doesn't help
- 14:18:23 [weiler]
- s/document/70 page document/
- 14:18:26 [fantasai]
- florian: Gives creditibility to Team / Chairs if they point out that it ought to be done
- 14:18:54 [fantasai]
- fantasai: A lot of times I have to pester people to post their slides, it's a common problem
- 14:19:07 [fantasai]
- ??: I've been in several meetings that they didn't post until asked.
- 14:19:37 [fantasai]
- ??: Requiring deletion if you add more words isn't a good rule.
- 14:19:54 [fantasai]
- s/??/Ted/
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- s/??/Ted/
- 14:20:13 [weiler]
- [culture change doesn't come from this document]
- 14:20:19 [fantasai]
- florian: Over meetings had to ask people, adding wouldn't change needing to ask
- 14:20:32 [fantasai]
- florian: would help in cases of pushing back
- 14:20:48 [fantasai]
- Ted: They were pushing back. Decks were in private space and shared over meeting, and so they were pushing back hard.
- 14:21:05 [fantasai]
- weiler: Then not just a clarification
- 14:21:17 [fantasai]
- Ted: We know this, but not part of everyone's culture
- 14:21:33 [fantasai]
- Ted: putting it in official policy makes it easier to make it part of their acculturation
- 14:21:44 [fantasai]
- florian: This is why I support the edit, but as a chair, we're at the end of a long cycle
- 14:21:56 [fantasai]
- florian: I don't think it's urgent, we could take it at end of next cycle
- 14:22:14 [florian]
- s/urgent/urgent, so if there is controversy,/
- 14:23:07 [fantasai]
- fantasai: It is a "should", so, unlikely to be a problem
- 14:23:25 [fantasai]
- florian: Sam, are you convinced or do you want next cycle?
- 14:23:29 [fantasai]
- weiler: Defer
- 14:23:58 [fantasai]
- RESOLVED: Defer
- 14:24:31 [fantasai]
- RESOLVED: Accept PR 539 as-is
- 14:24:47 [fantasai]
- RESOLVED: Accept PR 541 with Sam's suggestion to link to right section of HR document
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- florian: Anyone else have anything else to say before sending this onword?
- 14:25:07 [fantasai]
- [silence]
- 14:25:15 [fantasai]
- RESOLVED: Send Process onward to formal ballot
- 14:25:34 [fantasai]
- s/Defer/Defere 552/
- 14:25:43 [fantasai]
- s/Defere/Defer/
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/07/14-w3process-minutes.html fantasai
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- florian: Unless anything else to add to agenda, we will adjourn
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- Meeting closed.
- 14:26:22 [TallTed]
- present+
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- RRSAgent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/07/14-w3process-minutes.html TallTed
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