IRC log of wpwg-spc on 2021-06-28
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- logging to https://www.w3.org/2021/06/28-wpwg-spc-irc
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- Meeting: SPC Task Force
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- Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-payments-wg/2021Jun/0018.html
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- Chair: Ian
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- Scribe: Ian
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- agenda+ Analysis of SPC use case prioritization survey
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- agenda+ Any follow-up from 24 June WPWG discussion of SPC
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- agenda+ Time for open issues
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- agenda+ Next call
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- present+
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- regrets+ Michel_Weksler
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- present+ Anne_Pouillard
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- present+ Chris_Wood
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- present+ Werner_Bruinings
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- present+ Stephen_McGruer
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- present+ Jean-Carlo_Emer
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- present+ Christian_Aabye
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- present+ Jonathan_Grossar
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- zakim, take up item 1
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- agendum 1 -- Analysis of SPC use case prioritization survey -- taken up [from Ian]
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- present+ Doug_Fisher
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- present+ Susan_Pandy
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- present+ Adrian_Hope-Bailie
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- present+ Gerhard_Oosthuizen
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- -> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/83744/spc-priority/results SPC use cases prioritization
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- present+ Clinton_Allen
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- ====
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- 4.78 / 9: Auth different merchant
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- 2.11 / 6: In-transaction enrollment, later authentication same merchant
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- 2.00 / 6: Enrollment of multiple instruments with one authentication
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- 1.78 / 5: Enrollment for both payment authentication and account login
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- 1.56 / 4: Authentication with out-of-band authenticator
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- 0.78 / 3: Express Checkout (no user presence check)
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- 0.78 / 2: Frictionless Checkout (no user presence check or payment confirmation dialog)
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- 0.56 / 3: Web Authentication enrollment
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- 0.56 / 4: Authenticator unenrollment
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- 0.33 / 1: Authentication by bank after redirect
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- PROPOSAL: Remove out-of-band auth from the list of use cases under consideration
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- present+ Praveena_Subrahamany
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- -> https://github.com/w3c/secure-payment-confirmation/blob/gh-pages/scope.md Use cases
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- present+ Sameer_Tare
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- 16:15:06 [clinton]
- q+
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- ack clinton
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- clinton: I think the results make sense
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- ...regarding new use cases, I can see two paths
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- ...some use cases lead to general solutions
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- ...glad to see SRC in there
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- Ian: Any difference between 3DS and SRC flows?
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- Jonathan: The RP is different
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- Ian: What about CIBA in open banking use case?
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- chris: Client-initiated backchannel authentication. ... with CIBA it's a relatively straightforward and common approach in common banking....could definitely be used to exchange credential ids.
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- ...doesn't look much different from the other use cases we've been looking at
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- q+
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- ack me
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- Ian: Could we review the enrollment in a cross-origin iframe?
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- Stephen: The origin trial allows a bank iframe (3p wrt top-level merchant) with UX
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- ...whether the browser UX is required remains to be seen.
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- Topic: Other feeback
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- Ian: We also heard a desire for the caller to call SPC without a round-trip to the RP. And to allow the merchant to validate the assertion
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- zakim, close item 1
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- agendum 1, Analysis of SPC use case prioritization survey, closed
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- I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
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- 2. Any follow-up from 24 June WPWG discussion of SPC [from Ian]
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- zakim, take up item 2
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- agendum 2 -- Any follow-up from 24 June WPWG discussion of SPC -- taken up [from Ian]
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- zakim, close item 2
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- agendum 2, Any follow-up from 24 June WPWG discussion of SPC, closed
- 16:31:12 [Zakim]
- I see 2 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
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- 3. Time for open issues [from Ian]
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- zakim, close item 3
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- agendum 3, Time for open issues, closed
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- I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:
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- 4. Next call [from Ian]
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- zakim, take up item
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- I don't understand 'take up item', Ian
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- zakim, take up item 4
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- agendum 4 -- Next call -- taken up [from Ian]
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- 5 July
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/06/28-wpwg-spc-minutes.html Ian
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- rrsagent, set logs public
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- zakimm, bye
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- zakim, bye
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- leaving. As of this point the attendees have been Ian, Anne_Pouillard, Chris_Wood, Werner_Bruinings, Stephen_McGruer, Jean-Carlo_Emer, Christian_Aabye, Jonathan_Grossar,
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- rrsagent, bye
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- I see no action items