IRC log of md-odrl-profile on 2021-05-26

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please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), jo_
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meeting: Rights Automation Community Group Teleconference
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chair: jo
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regrets: nigel, renato
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agenda: https://w3c.github.io/market-data-odrl-profile/agendas/md-odrl-profile-agenda-2021-05-26.html
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present: jo
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topic: Admin
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/05/26-md-odrl-profile-minutes.html jo_
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/05/26-md-odrl-profile-minutes.html jo_
14:58:26 [Laura]
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Minutes of last meeting: https://www.w3.org/2021/05/12-md-odrl-profile-minutes.html
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present+ laura
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present+ belen, ben
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present+ caspar
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present+ ali
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regrets+ Nigel P
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present+ Kan_xu
15:04:11 [joshuaCornejo]
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15:04:16 [ben]
regrets+ Mark D
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regrets+ Andy M
15:04:33 [jo_]
present+ josh
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s/Mark D/MarkD
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s/Andy M/AndyM/
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s/Nigel P/NigelP/
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present+ josh
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present+ jeremy
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scribe: joshuaCornejo
15:07:29 [jo_]
present+ MarkB
15:08:07 [joshuaCornejo]
Jo: there are 2 actions - visible in the notes from the last meeting
15:08:25 [joshuaCornejo]
Ben: I haven't had a chance to do my actions, if we could put it on the next meeting
15:08:27 [jo_]
bring forward discussion on IDs to next meeting
15:08:43 [joshuaCornejo]
Mark: I have an LEI, you'll see us (DataBP)
15:08:54 [joshuaCornejo]
... it was a satisfactory experience
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present+ michelle
15:09:44 [joshuaCornejo]
.. (describe the process)
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S/(describe/(describes
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Jo: thanks for that report Mark
15:10:40 [jo_]
RESOLUTION: Accept minutes of last meeting
15:10:42 [joshuaCornejo]
... I would like to resolve and accept the notes from the last meeting
15:10:51 [joshuaCornejo]
... Michelle: how are you?
15:11:03 [joshuaCornejo]
... we got this action for you, in case you've done it and wanted to talk about
15:11:16 [joshuaCornejo]
Michelle: I did look at a few examples from our sourcing team
15:12:12 [joshuaCornejo]
... you've got a couple of types, one where you are contributing with a view of getting back (e.g. valuations) it is around the usage of it and it is something we can accommodate, there are a couple of comments around the concept of valuation that might be useful, I've got a couple of examples that I wanted to circulate.
15:12:50 [joshuaCornejo]
... there is the other type of contribution where 'we' provide data to other vendors and they aggregate it with other sources, and we might buy it back. Often there are arrangements around the buy-back, which is usually anonymised.
15:13:37 [joshuaCornejo]
... you have agreements, I can send a bit. Those are the main types of contribution agreements. I can summarise and see if the language is accommodating.
15:13:46 [jo_]
ACTION: Michelle to circulate her summary and conclusions on Contributor Agreements
15:14:42 [joshuaCornejo]
Jo: if you could send that stuff to the list
15:15:06 [joshuaCornejo]
Ben: it all sounds great, can't wait to see the material.
15:15:54 [joshuaCornejo]
Jo: based on the discussion I had with Ben earlier, <describes the actions to take to reduce scope of agenda for today)
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Topic: Identifiers
15:16:26 [jo_]
Skip for today, other than Mark's contribution above, and GLEIF has not got back
15:17:06 [jo_]
Topic: Various Discussions
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defer to next meeting
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Topic: FISD Update
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Ben: <describes conversation to FISD>
15:17:52 [jo_]
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Mark and Ben to present to FISD Exchange group on June 10
15:19:16 [joshuaCornejo]
Jo has agreed to be the moderator !
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s/Jo/ ... Jo/
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Ben: <continues with the agenda for the FISD panel>
15:22:12 [jo_]
ACTION: Ben to call side meeting re FISD
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Topic: Review of Feedback
15:23:38 [joshuaCornejo]
Jo: consider we only have 1 meeting scheduled between now and FISD
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... <asks who can attend a meeting next week>
15:25:32 [jo_]
ACTION: Jo top promote idea of a workshop on list (tentatively 120 mins 2nd June at 4.00)
15:26:06 [joshuaCornejo]
Ben: thanks to everybody that gave feedback, great stuff. Mortified by my spelling mistakes.
15:26:16 [joshuaCornejo]
... I thought what I am going to do is share a copy of the standard
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... which I've been working on and so long no one has comments coming back, I will swap it for the main standard after this meeting.
15:27:05 [joshuaCornejo]
... I will go in order over the most important changes
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... one of the things Jo said to me is that perhaps we can reorder it to make it self contained
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... in a sense that was relatively easy to do
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... <describes the standards and the concept of resource>
15:38:29 [jo_]
ACTION: Ben to continue discussion on Parties and "attribute" or not
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present+ alex, markD
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regrets- markD
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Discussion of Party Roles - addition of Existing and Prospective clients causes the set to be disjoint, which worries some participants
15:45:05 [jo_]
Discussion of Laura's comment on Calculating Index: distinguish creating a new index vs customising an existing one
15:47:27 [jo_]
Question if this is a tri-party agreement - Laura will investigate further
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Discussion of ownership of IP in such cases. Ben to capture the discussion in a note.
15:50:28 [joshuaCornejo]
Ben: quality assurance out of scope - put a note on the document
15:50:44 [joshuaCornejo]
... if we need to make a distinction or not with data management
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Discussion about assurance/data quality/fee waiving/exclusion of reportign
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S/reportign reporting
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s/S/reportign reporting//
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s/reportign/reporting/
15:59:05 [joshuaCornejo]
Jo: thanks Ben, I will send out the notes and propose a meeting for next Wednesday
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Topic: AOB
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Thanks to Josh for scribing and wishing all best in future endeavours!
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-- meeting closed
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s/Discussion about /... <Discussion about
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s/aboutassurance/about assurance
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16:17:20 [jo_]
rrsagent, bye
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I see 4 open action items saved in https://www.w3.org/2021/05/26-md-odrl-profile-actions.rdf :
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ACTION: Michelle to circulate her summary and conclusions on Contributor Agreements [1]
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recorded in https://www.w3.org/2021/05/26-md-odrl-profile-irc#T15-13-46
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ACTION: Ben to call side meeting re FISD [2]
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recorded in https://www.w3.org/2021/05/26-md-odrl-profile-irc#T15-22-12
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ACTION: Jo top promote idea of a workshop on list (tentatively 120 mins 2nd June at 4.00) [3]
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recorded in https://www.w3.org/2021/05/26-md-odrl-profile-irc#T15-25-32
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ACTION: Ben to continue discussion on Parties and "attribute" or not [4]
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recorded in https://www.w3.org/2021/05/26-md-odrl-profile-irc#T15-38-29
16:17:25 [jo_]
zakim, bye
16:17:25 [Zakim]
leaving. As of this point the attendees have been jo, laura, belen, ben, caspar, ali, Kan_xu, josh, jeremy, MarkB, michelle, olga, alex, markD
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