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13:50:16 <trackbot> Meeting: XForms Users Community Group Teleconference
13:50:16 <trackbot> Date: 14 May 2021
13:50:34 <Steven> Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2021May/0005
13:50:38 <Steven> Chair: Steven
13:50:43 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes
13:50:43 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/05/14-forms-minutes.html Steven
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14:01:06 <Steven> Topic: No Call 21 May
14:01:06 <Steven> [MarkupUK Conference; next call 28th May]
14:01:20 <Steven> Steven: I'll be giving my XForms Tutorial
14:01:37 <Steven> Topic: ACTION-2295: Check that his implementation combined @instance and
14:01:37 <Steven> @targetref correctly
14:01:37 <Steven> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2021Jan/0002
14:02:05 <Steven> Erik: Ok ok ok
14:02:14 <Steven> Topic: ACTION-2304: Add action-warning event
14:02:14 <Steven> (Was ACTION-2302: Make load-error an instance of action-error)
14:02:14 <Steven> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2021Apr/0013
14:02:23 <Steven> Steven: I will close this action now
14:02:31 <Steven> Close ACTION-2304
14:02:31 <trackbot> Closed ACTION-2304.
14:02:41 <Steven> Topic: ACTION-2300: Look at allowing xpath 2 and 3
14:02:41 <Steven> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2021May/0004
14:04:52 <Steven> Steven: [Reads email]
14:05:01 <Steven> Eriuk: XPath 1 compatible?
14:05:06 <Steven> s/uk/k
14:05:12 <Steven> Steven: If possible
14:05:27 <ebruchez_> https://www.w3.org/community/xformsusers/wiki/XPath_Expressions_Module
14:05:33 <Steven> Erik: Might be difficult
14:05:44 <Steven> ... the sugnatures of functions are XPath 2 style
14:05:50 <Steven> s/sug/sig/
14:06:32 <Steven> Erik: XPath 1 doesn't have a sequence, only nodeset. Also no empty sequence, just empty nodeset
14:06:48 <Steven> ... it also about what the functions do.
14:07:01 <Steven> ... XPath 2 has more types
14:07:21 <Steven> ... I'm not sure if it is worth it.
14:07:41 <Steven> ... There is a big jump between XPath 1.0 and 2.0
14:08:07 <Steven> ... Unless we're vague, and say "figure it out"
14:08:25 <Steven> ... otherwise make 2.0  the baseline
14:08:57 <Steven> Steven: OK. I'll look a bit more, and come back, taking your comments into account.
14:10:40 <Steven> Topic: Introspection functions
14:10:40 <Steven> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2021May/0003
14:12:16 <Steven> Steven: [explains email]
14:12:41 <Steven> Erik: I'd prefer two different  functions
14:12:45 <Steven> Alain: Agree.
14:13:04 <Steven> Steven: OK, I'll come with a proposal.
14:13:37 <Steven> Erik: It's probably reasonable
14:13:56 <Steven> ... we have several more in our implementation
14:16:01 <Steven> Alain: I would prefer a sequence or a document
14:16:51 <Steven> Erik: If it's a document, all values will be nodes, not values.
14:17:29 <Steven> ... event() returns objects of different type.
14:17:45 <Steven> ... It would make things more complicated.
14:18:17 <Steven> Alain: It could be a function just returning names
14:18:32 <Steven> ... use map on the property function
14:19:00 <Steven> Erik: There are many ways of representing. An XML document can represent maps to a degree.
14:19:24 <Steven> ... A document you can insert somewhere, but it also has drawbacks.
14:19:40 <Steven> Topic: ACTION-2303: Add a warning about xpath compatibility
14:19:40 <Steven> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2021Apr/0015
14:20:12 <Steven> Steven: This has been subsumed in ACTION-2300
14:20:21 <Steven> Close ACTION-2303
14:20:21 <trackbot> Closed ACTION-2303.
14:20:27 <Steven> Topic: AOB
14:20:46 <Steven> Steven: See you next week at the cofnerence
14:21:00 <Steven> s/cofnerence/conference
14:21:27 <Steven> Steven: Rather early for you Erik
14:21:57 <Steven> [ADJOURN]
14:22:13 <Steven> Present: Alain, Erik, Steven
14:22:17 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes
14:22:17 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/05/14-forms-minutes.html Steven
14:23:53 <Steven> ACTION: Steven to propose introspection functions
14:23:54 <trackbot> Created ACTION-2305 - Propose introspection functions [on Steven Pemberton - due 2021-05-21].
14:23:58 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes
14:23:58 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/05/14-forms-minutes.html Steven
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