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13:08:13 <trackbot> Meeting: Spoken Pronunciation Task Force Teleconference
13:08:13 <trackbot> Date: 12 May 2021
13:08:23 <paul_grenier> zakim, agenda?
13:08:23 <Zakim> I see nothing on the agenda
13:08:30 <paul_grenier> Agenda+ Agenda Review & Announcements
13:08:32 <paul_grenier> Agenda+ CfC Update and Feedback
13:08:35 <paul_grenier> Agenda+ Marketing and Socializing FPWD
13:08:38 <paul_grenier> Agenda+ WICG Coordination for Mapping Document
13:09:35 <paul_grenier> regrets: Irfan, Stephen Noble
13:09:39 <paul_grenier> chair: paul_grenier
13:59:10 <paul_grenier> present+
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14:02:07 <Dee> present+
14:02:07 <JF> agenda?
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14:02:22 <ADR> present+
14:02:30 <JF> Present+
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14:03:42 <Roy> Present+
14:03:57 <Dee> Scribe: Dee
14:04:33 <Dee> Agenda?
14:05:47 <JF> the feedback I got: "Content validation would be easier with an embedded SSML model, but not insurmountable via JSON path. Similar for epub generation.  Summary: could go either way, but as noted, with a (historical) preference for not mixing JSON into an XML workflow."
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14:06:32 <Dee> Team reports some feedback about not including JASON in the XML.
14:06:33 <mhakkinen> present+
14:07:07 <Dee> Zakim, next item
14:07:07 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Agenda Review & Announcements -- taken up [from paul_grenier]
14:08:57 <Dee> Paul: Reviewed agenda.
14:09:11 <Dee> Janina: We need ETS's vote on the APA Charter.
14:09:18 <Dee> Mark: It is ready to go.
14:09:32 <Dee> Zakim, next item
14:09:32 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- CfC Update and Feedback -- taken up [from paul_grenier]
14:10:05 <Dee> Janina: CFC is open through midnight tonight (Boston time). Only messages of support.
14:11:04 <Dee> Paul: Feedback that came in late, specifically from Janina, issue with receiving email
14:12:25 <Dee> Janina: Fine to deal with feedback later. Summary, concern that the examples should appear at the end and not at top. Also need clean comparison of approaches at a high level. Can do this in a subsequent draft.
14:12:44 <Dee> Janina: Examples at end after normative pieces.
14:13:19 <Dee> Paul: This is not the final form. We will have the opportunity to make updates.
14:14:14 <Dee> Team will ensure that feedback comments are on the list.
14:15:11 <Dee> Janina: One comment went to the APA admin list.
14:15:25 <Dee> Paul: Comment was logged in github.
14:15:35 <paul_grenier> https://github.com/w3c/pronunciation/issues/83
14:16:44 <Dee> Janina: correction, comment is not in the APA admin list.
14:17:10 <Dee> Mark: Is there anything coming from the COGA group?
14:17:36 <Dee> Janina: Responded to COGA and pointed them toward use cases and gap anlayis.
14:17:51 <Dee> Paul: Will remind COGA in APA meeting today.
14:19:20 <Dee> Zakim, next item
14:19:21 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- Marketing and Socializing FPWD -- taken up [from paul_grenier]
14:19:50 <Dee> Paul: There were discussions about upcoming conferences.
14:20:34 <Dee> JF: We should have a clear idea of our pitch. Need at least an outline.
14:20:56 <Dee> JF: Educause and Accessing Higher Ground.
14:21:25 <Dee> Mark: Submitted to IMS Learning Impact conference in October
14:21:49 <Dee> JF: Can we repurpose the IMS submission for other conferences?
14:22:46 <Dee> Mark: It may be more specific to IMS audience, but pieces could be suitable. Alternately, if other content is developed, it could be incorporated into IMS presentaiton.
14:23:51 <Dee> Mark: ATIA should be high on our list.
14:25:49 <Dee> JF: Put together a synopsis and outline so that we are ready to respond to calls for submissions for conferences.
14:26:36 <Dee> Mark: Educause would be good.
14:27:03 <JF> Educause 2021: The call for proposals will open on April 15 and close on May 10.
14:27:32 <Dee> Janina: We can use W3C branding. It is up to us to decide our preferred space for collaborating.
14:28:21 <JF> Accessing Higher Ground 2021: Deadline May 12
14:29:10 <Dee> Educause Conference Dates: October 26-29, 2021
14:29:34 <Dee> Mark: Need to ensure coverage for fees related to conferences.
14:32:20 <Dee> ACTION: paul_grenier to investigate slidy
14:32:20 <trackbot> Error finding 'paul_grenier'. You can review and register nicknames at <https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/task-forces/pronunciation/track/users>.
14:32:26 <JF> https://www.w3.org/Talks/Tools/Slidy2/#(1)
14:32:28 <mhakkinen> For the record, a presentation by ETS on the pronunciation work has been submitted to IMS Learning Impact 2021 https://www.imsglobal.org/event/li/2021#:~:text=Learning%20Impact%20brings%20together%20leaders,every%20learner%20make%20a%20difference.
14:32:33 <Roy> trackbot, status?
14:33:03 <Dee> JF: Deadline for Educause was Monday and Accessing Higher Ground is today
14:33:06 <Roy> ACTION: paul grenier to investigate slidy
14:33:06 <trackbot> 'paul' is an ambiguous username. Please try a different identifier, such as family name or username (e.g., paulbohman, pgrenier).
14:33:34 <Dee> JF: We may be able to reach out to organizers or members to gain access
14:33:36 <Roy> ACTION: pgrenier to investigate slidy
14:33:37 <trackbot> Created ACTION-27 - Investigate slidy [on Paul Grenier - due 2021-05-19].
14:34:37 <JF> ACTION: JF to reach out to Howard Cramer to "hold" a spot (?)
14:34:37 <trackbot> Created ACTION-28 - Reach out to howard cramer to "hold" a spot (?) [on John Foliot - due 2021-05-19].
14:35:39 <Dee> Paul: we will use the WIKI for tracking conferences
14:36:07 <Dee> Zakim, next item
14:36:08 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- WICG Coordination for Mapping Document -- taken up [from paul_grenier]
14:37:01 <Dee> Janina: this may be premature. Don't we need to settle on direction first?
14:37:39 <Dee> Paul: concepts are not changing. We want to specify what parts of our authored presentation need to be provided to AT.
14:38:34 <Dee> Janina: Basically a table. Rows include info to communicate, columns are environments
14:38:37 <JF> @mark: Submit an Abstract for ATIA 2022 by June 14
14:38:56 <Dee> Janina: Table tells implementers what to do.
14:39:22 <Dee> Janina: We may want to ask ARIA for help with this.
14:40:34 <Dee> Mark: We need to have technical feedback for the mapping.
14:41:03 <Dee> Janina: Invite technical experts here.
14:42:10 <Dee> Janina: suggest reaching out after we have a first public working draft
14:43:01 <Dee> Janina: If this is a deep technical challenge, we may be able to look for a grant.
14:43:44 <Dee> Zakim, next item
14:43:44 <Zakim> I do not see any more non-closed or non-skipped agenda items, Dee
14:43:53 <Dee> Other Business
14:44:32 <Dee> Janina: Will update announcements.
14:46:19 <Dee> ACTION: Janina to update formal notifications based on our FPWD abstract and intro
14:46:20 <trackbot> Created ACTION-29 - Update formal notifications based on our fpwd abstract and intro [on Janina Sajka - due 2021-05-19].
14:46:57 <Dee> RRSAgent, make minutes
14:46:57 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/05/12-pronunciation-minutes.html Dee
14:47:25 <paul_grenier> https://github.com/w3c/pronunciation/wiki/Socialization
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14:48:01 <Dee> RRSAgent, make minutes
14:48:01 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/05/12-pronunciation-minutes.html Dee
14:48:10 <Dee> trackbot, end meeting
14:48:10 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
14:48:10 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been paul_grenier, Dee, ADR, JF, Roy, mhakkinen
14:48:18 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
14:48:18 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/05/12-pronunciation-minutes.html trackbot
14:48:19 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
14:48:19 <RRSAgent> I see 5 open action items saved in https://www.w3.org/2021/05/12-pronunciation-actions.rdf :
14:48:19 <RRSAgent> ACTION: paul_grenier to investigate slidy [1]
14:48:19 <RRSAgent>   recorded in https://www.w3.org/2021/05/12-pronunciation-irc#T14-32-20
14:48:19 <RRSAgent> ACTION: paul grenier to investigate slidy [2]
14:48:19 <RRSAgent>   recorded in https://www.w3.org/2021/05/12-pronunciation-irc#T14-33-06
14:48:19 <RRSAgent> ACTION: pgrenier to investigate slidy [3]
14:48:19 <RRSAgent>   recorded in https://www.w3.org/2021/05/12-pronunciation-irc#T14-33-36
14:48:19 <RRSAgent> ACTION: JF to reach out to Howard Cramer to "hold" a spot (?) [4]
14:48:19 <RRSAgent>   recorded in https://www.w3.org/2021/05/12-pronunciation-irc#T14-34-37
14:48:19 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Janina to update formal notifications based on our FPWD abstract and intro [5]
14:48:19 <RRSAgent>   recorded in https://www.w3.org/2021/05/12-pronunciation-irc#T14-46-19