Meeting minutes
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Agenda Review
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Action Items
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<addison> action-1023?
<trackbot> action-1023: Addison Phillips to Ping fantasai about shadow dom -- due 2021-04-29 -- OPEN
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<trackbot> Closed action-1023.
addison: I pinged Elika, will ping again.
Info Share
addison: Any info to share?
RADAR Review
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addison: No incoming review requests. Anything to discuss?
"natural language" edits
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addison: My latest edit ^^ and the diff ^^. Any thoughts?
Bert: "0x10FFFF_16." declares base 16 twice. Too much?
addison: I think that's been there forever. :-) But I can fix it.
fsasaki: About example: Localizable and syntactic content, reference to cover image: Would the image also be localized? So an image is also localizable?
addison: I need to change the example.
r12a: Colors in defn of "resource", what is the orange text?
addison: I missed an edit, I think. Will fix.
addison: Are we happy with this terminology?
r12a: I think might work. Still looking at the diff.
addison: I moved some things around.
r12a: I think we should have a glossary document. Each document will still have definitions, but they would be copied from the glossary.
addison: Thinking of linking terms...
r12a: Link or copy.
addison: Which would be the source and which the copy?
… Could be a huge document. Specdev suffered (maybe still does) from this.
addison: Some of the terminology is specific to charmod. Not necessarily general.
r12a: We sometimes have conflicting terms in diff. documents. Central glossary can avoid that.
… Glossary can say "this term primarily used in... "
addison: Terminology I think is now the same as in ltli.
addison: So can I commit this edit?
People nodding.
addison: I'l fix the things we mentioned above.
r12a: Sounds like a plan.
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<Bert> +1
AOB?
addison: Anything to talk about?
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r12a: We sent some articles out for wide review a while back. I think we should now publish them.
… I had some small comments, nothing substantive.
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r12a: We didn't get comments on the 2nd article. So: publish?
No action item needed, r12a will just do it.
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r12a: We have a pipeline for articles ^^
… It mentions the "Floating times" article. What do we do with it?
addison: It's from 2017. Probably needs a revision.
… I'll read it and if it doesn't needs tweaking we'll publish.
Action: addison: review floating times article for final publication
<trackbot> Created ACTION-1024 - Review floating times article for final publication [on Addison Phillips - due 2021-05-13].
r12a: Two articles I rewrote.
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r12a: And a third one.
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(The www.w3.org links are the wrong ones. The w3c.github.io links are right.)
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r12a: I'd like to publish them in the new form.
addison: These have not had wide review? Do they need it?
r12a: The qa-html-dir is rewritten and has new stuff, e.g., logical [CSS] properties. The other is not much changed.
addison: So publish the latter and put the other in wide review?
… Should the WG review them first?
r12a: I'm fine either way.
fsasaki: Some links are broken.
r12a: Yes, some links should work and some known not to work.
… so I'll send structural markup article for wide review and publish the other two.
material to enhance the language matrix with guidance what features are needed for a given language - "how tos" per language?
fsasaki: I went through the matrix material with students, to let the students try and understand what is need for a language. E.g., vertical layout not so important for European language, but important for others.
… maybe there could be a flag to indicate if a feature is relevant for a language.
… Maybe that's not so much a technical topic, but could be a help for users of the materal. That's feedback the students gave.
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r12a: The matrix is a summary. This document ^^ should help explain it.
… The document for a script will say which are the features to look out for.
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r12a: But we don't have enough resources to write them. Maybe you'll like this ^^ featurelist .
fsasaki: yes
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r12a: The Lao gap analysis links to other sources. But they are not W3C resources.
… They are done in my spare time.
… Open to suggestions to make things better.
fsasaki: Thanks for the pointers. I wasn't aware of those. So it may be a question of how to navigate to the resources.
addison: Maybe you should ask your students to contribute :-)
r12a: A question I've had a for a long time: Should we point people to my stuff? It addresses much of your question.
addison: The WG could review it, if you want. Maybe we need a process for receiving contributions, from r12a, but also others.
<fsasaki> r12a's script documents are an excellent resource that address the student's needs
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r12a: My article is a living document, not easily copiable. So can we point people to my material?
fsasaki: I'd say go for it.
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addison: Process to vet it doesn't have to be super elaborate.
r12a: We have a place to put such links.
fsasaki: I think the pointers are very helpful for my students.
Bert: I'd also say link to r12a's material. Just state what the status of the link is.
r12a: There would probably some 40 links.
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addison: Group them in a kind of "link farm"?
r12a: ^^ this has a section with links like that.
… The "requirements" subsection has topic links. We could organize it differently. No need to have just one link per item.
addison: Think about linking to general information. There are examples already, like the Bhutan links from Netflix.
Action: richard: look at the typography index and determine a way to point to other (outside) documents
addison: Linking seems valuable. Don't omit it just because it is all by r12a. No need to bring it all into W3C.
<trackbot> Created ACTION-1025 - Look at the typography index and determine a way to point to other (outside) documents [on Richard Ishida - due 2021-05-13].