Meeting minutes
RAUR: status and review of draft.
jasonjgw: some leftover work from last week
jasonjgw: recent issues in email have been received
joconnor: we received some very new comments, but were mixed between XAUR and RAUR and had to be parsed out
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comment was not to limit the number of windows that can be pinned
janina: we could simply say "pin one or more"
scott_h: this may just be fine as it is
<joconnor> Deaf and signing issues: Signing Avatar [XAUR] #168
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this actually applies to RAUR
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issue around replacing live signers with avatars
joconnor: OK...this is actually a XAUR issue
joconnor: new use case around changing the size of the window for signing
janina: yes...that sounds good
<joconnor> Josh to add new req for User Need 1 window anchoring etc
<joconnor> New draft requirement: A user should have the ability to change the size of the window especially for sign language interpreters, certified deaf interpreters, and signing people.
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video relay service and situation in the UK
JPaton: the text as explained in the email and discussed here sounds good
<joconnor> Ok to update Text and Video Relay Services section heading
janina: once edit is in place, then we will use the new snapshot to send out with a new CFC
Judy_: what about replying back to commenters first?
janina: unclear if that is better than just a straight CFC
joconnor: Have pinged Wendy already on her comments
Judy_: will touch base with Wendy in an upcoming meeting just to make sure
janina: don't think we have anything left that is controversial
<scott_h> Apologies: need to drop off to attend to famly matters
janina: will wait 24 hours and then issue a new CFC
janina: will probably run until Wednesday of next week
<scott_h> remote meetings update: made some offline progress, Judy and I to potentially discuss next week prior to RQTF
XAUR: open issues.
joconnor: new comments from COGA
joconnor: also, new comments from Wendy
<joconnor> Signing Avatars: https://
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<joconnor> Here is what we have in the XAUR https://
joconnor: The comment was that signing avatars were not recommended
janina: Would signing avatars be better than nothing?
Judy_: this may depend on the context of the meeting and who is involved
joconnor: There are contexts where this could be useful
joconnor: We are mostly talking about prerecorded information
<joconnor> Here is my overview and suggestion to Wendy and the group
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jasonjgw: craft a comment which mentions the anticipated further technology advancement
Judy_: all of this is at an early stage, so interested to make sure we hear from direct users and researchers
JPaton: What about prerecorded clips of signing humans?
JPaton: may want to differentiate between computer animated avatars and recorded human signers
<joconnor> Josh: Heres a preference for pre-recorded signing over avatars.
jasonjgw: given that XR environments will have 3d and enhanced AI, will this benefit signing avatars?
JPaton: Text itself does not convey emotion or emphasis, which is something that human signers can do well
JPaton: Because the user populations are very small, the ability to reach a large corpus for AI to draw from is difficult
janina: There is always a trade off between quality of access and amount (audio description is increasingly created from TTS)
janina: In immersive dynamic environments, prerecorded signing may have limited application
joconnor: need to get more input from users
janina: we need to do a joint call, but need to decide when
Judy_: a large number are find with meeting with us at our regular call
janina: need to develop a joint agenda
Judy_: they want to know more about our current work
<joconnor> Here is the APA project wiki
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<joconnor> RQTF
Judy_: the resource pages are often hard to follow
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janina: We can look at better presenting and organizing these
jasonjgw: Remote meetings plus whatever remains of XAUR and RAUR for next week
janina: try to target the 19th for the joint meeting
janina: TPAC planning is also on the horizon