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12:49:59 <trackbot> Meeting: Accessible Platform Architectures Working Group Teleconference
12:49:59 <trackbot> Date: 05 May 2021
12:50:37 <jasonjgw> agenda+        RAUR: status and review of draft.
12:50:37 <jasonjgw> agenda+        XAUR: open issues.
12:50:37 <jasonjgw> agenda+        Accessibility of remote meetings.
12:50:37 <jasonjgw> agenda+        Media synchronization.
12:50:37 <jasonjgw> agenda+        Updates on other Task Force topics and coordination of work.
12:50:46 <jasonjgw> present+
12:50:48 <jasonjgw> chair: jasonjgw
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13:01:51 <SteveNoble> present+
13:01:58 <JPaton> present+ John_Paton
13:02:23 <scott_h> present+
13:02:44 <jasonjgw> zakim, next item
13:02:44 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- RAUR: status and review of draft. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
13:03:16 <joconnor> present+
13:03:18 <SteveNoble> jasonjgw: some leftover work from last week
13:03:34 <SteveNoble> jasonjgw: recent issues in email have been received
13:06:24 <SteveNoble> joconnor: we received some very new comments, but were mixed between XAUR and RAUR and had to be parsed out
13:06:30 <joconnor> https://github.com/w3c/apa/issues/167
13:07:22 <SteveNoble> comment was not to limit the number of windows that can be pinned
13:08:12 <SteveNoble> janina: we could simply say "pin one or more"
13:08:13 <joconnor> https://raw.githack.com/w3c/apa/8ab19c819b6f22043334c2559ac0b9e72d61e549/raur/index.html#window-anchoring-and-pinning
13:09:31 <SteveNoble> scott_h: this may just be fine as it is
13:10:04 <joconnor> Deaf and signing issues: Signing Avatar [XAUR] #168
13:10:10 <joconnor> https://github.com/w3c/apa/issues/168
13:10:32 <SteveNoble> this actually applies to RAUR
13:11:15 <joconnor> https://wfdeaf.org/news/resources/wfd-wasli-statement-use-signing-avatars/
13:11:21 <SteveNoble> issue around replacing live signers with avatars
13:12:32 <SteveNoble> joconnor: OK...this is actually a XAUR issue
13:13:53 <SteveNoble> joconnor: new use case around changing the size of the window for signing
13:14:21 <SteveNoble> janina: yes...that sounds good
13:14:42 <joconnor> Josh to add new req for User Need 1 window anchoring etc
13:14:49 <joconnor> New draft requirement: A user should have the ability to change the size of the window especially for sign language interpreters, certified deaf interpreters, and signing people.
13:16:18 <joconnor> https://github.com/w3c/apa/issues/177
13:16:45 <SteveNoble> video relay service and situation in the UK
13:19:04 <SteveNoble> JPaton: the text as explained in the email and discussed here sounds good
13:19:06 <joconnor> Ok to update Text and Video Relay Services section heading
13:19:06 <joconnor> https://raw.githack.com/w3c/apa/8ab19c819b6f22043334c2559ac0b9e72d61e549/raur/index.html#text-and-video-relay-services-vrs
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13:19:27 <joconnor> https://raw.githack.com/w3c/apa/8ab19c819b6f22043334c2559ac0b9e72d61e549/raur/index.html#text-and-video-relay-services-vrs
13:21:19 <SteveNoble> janina: once edit is in place, then we will use the new snapshot to send out with a new CFC
13:21:44 <SteveNoble> Judy_: what about replying back to commenters first?
13:22:36 <SteveNoble> janina: unclear if that is better than just a straight CFC
13:24:43 <SteveNoble> joconnor: Have pinged Wendy already on her comments
13:25:32 <SteveNoble> Judy_: will touch base with Wendy in an upcoming meeting just to make sure
13:27:06 <SteveNoble> janina: don't think we have anything left that is controversial
13:28:19 <scott_h> Apologies: need to drop off to attend to famly matters
13:28:32 <SteveNoble> janina: will wait 24 hours and then issue a new CFC
13:29:07 <SteveNoble> janina: will probably run until Wednesday of next week
13:29:10 <scott_h> remote meetings update: made some offline progress, Judy and I to potentially discuss next week prior to RQTF
13:29:43 <jasonjgw> zakim, next item
13:29:43 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- XAUR: open issues. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
13:30:05 <SteveNoble> joconnor: new comments from COGA
13:30:19 <SteveNoble> joconnor: also, new comments from Wendy
13:31:42 <joconnor> Signing Avatars: https://github.com/w3c/apa/issues/168
13:34:41 <joconnor> https://wfdeaf.org/news/resources/wfd-wasli-statement-use-signing-avatars/
13:35:32 <joconnor> Here is what we have in the XAUR https://raw.githack.com/w3c/apa/6d5bf713d9d7c65ecda104c213ad47b0e98cfbe1/xaur/index.html#text-description-transformation
13:35:45 <SteveNoble> joconnor: The comment was that signing avatars were not recommended
13:36:49 <joconnor> q+
13:37:02 <SteveNoble> janina: Would signing avatars be better than nothing?
13:37:31 <JPaton> q+
13:37:47 <SteveNoble> Judy_: this may depend on the context of the meeting and who is involved
13:38:58 <SteveNoble> joconnor: There are contexts where this could be useful
13:39:45 <SteveNoble> joconnor: We are mostly talking about prerecorded information
13:40:47 <joconnor> Here is my overview and suggestion to Wendy and the group
13:40:48 <joconnor> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa/2021May/0004.html
13:41:06 <SteveNoble> jasonjgw: craft a comment which mentions the anticipated further technology advancement
13:42:33 <SteveNoble> Judy_: all of this is at an early stage, so interested to make sure we hear from direct users and researchers
13:43:52 <SteveNoble> JPaton: What about prerecorded clips of signing humans?
13:44:57 <SteveNoble> JPaton: may want to differentiate between computer animated avatars and recorded human signers
13:45:56 <joconnor> Josh: Heres a preference for pre-recorded signing over avatars.
13:47:36 <SteveNoble> jasonjgw: given that XR environments will have 3d and enhanced AI, will this benefit signing avatars?