IRC log of rqtf on 2021-05-05
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- Meeting: Accessible Platform Architectures Working Group Teleconference
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- Date: 05 May 2021
- 12:50:37 [jasonjgw]
- agenda+ RAUR: status and review of draft.
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- agenda+ XAUR: open issues.
- 12:50:37 [jasonjgw]
- agenda+ Accessibility of remote meetings.
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- agenda+ Media synchronization.
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- agenda+ Updates on other Task Force topics and coordination of work.
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- present+
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- chair: jasonjgw
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- present+
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- present+ John_Paton
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- present+
- 13:02:44 [jasonjgw]
- zakim, next item
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- agendum 1 -- RAUR: status and review of draft. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
- 13:03:16 [joconnor]
- present+
- 13:03:18 [SteveNoble]
- jasonjgw: some leftover work from last week
- 13:03:34 [SteveNoble]
- jasonjgw: recent issues in email have been received
- 13:06:24 [SteveNoble]
- joconnor: we received some very new comments, but were mixed between XAUR and RAUR and had to be parsed out
- 13:06:30 [joconnor]
- https://github.com/w3c/apa/issues/167
- 13:07:22 [SteveNoble]
- comment was not to limit the number of windows that can be pinned
- 13:08:12 [SteveNoble]
- janina: we could simply say "pin one or more"
- 13:08:13 [joconnor]
- https://raw.githack.com/w3c/apa/8ab19c819b6f22043334c2559ac0b9e72d61e549/raur/index.html#window-anchoring-and-pinning
- 13:09:31 [SteveNoble]
- scott_h: this may just be fine as it is
- 13:10:04 [joconnor]
- Deaf and signing issues: Signing Avatar [XAUR] #168
- 13:10:10 [joconnor]
- https://github.com/w3c/apa/issues/168
- 13:10:32 [SteveNoble]
- this actually applies to RAUR
- 13:11:15 [joconnor]
- https://wfdeaf.org/news/resources/wfd-wasli-statement-use-signing-avatars/
- 13:11:21 [SteveNoble]
- issue around replacing live signers with avatars
- 13:12:32 [SteveNoble]
- joconnor: OK...this is actually a XAUR issue
- 13:13:53 [SteveNoble]
- joconnor: new use case around changing the size of the window for signing
- 13:14:21 [SteveNoble]
- janina: yes...that sounds good
- 13:14:42 [joconnor]
- Josh to add new req for User Need 1 window anchoring etc
- 13:14:49 [joconnor]
- New draft requirement: A user should have the ability to change the size of the window especially for sign language interpreters, certified deaf interpreters, and signing people.
- 13:16:18 [joconnor]
- https://github.com/w3c/apa/issues/177
- 13:16:45 [SteveNoble]
- video relay service and situation in the UK
- 13:19:04 [SteveNoble]
- JPaton: the text as explained in the email and discussed here sounds good
- 13:19:06 [joconnor]
- Ok to update Text and Video Relay Services section heading
- 13:19:06 [joconnor]
- https://raw.githack.com/w3c/apa/8ab19c819b6f22043334c2559ac0b9e72d61e549/raur/index.html#text-and-video-relay-services-vrs
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- 13:19:27 [joconnor]
- https://raw.githack.com/w3c/apa/8ab19c819b6f22043334c2559ac0b9e72d61e549/raur/index.html#text-and-video-relay-services-vrs
- 13:21:19 [SteveNoble]
- janina: once edit is in place, then we will use the new snapshot to send out with a new CFC
- 13:21:44 [SteveNoble]
- Judy_: what about replying back to commenters first?
- 13:22:36 [SteveNoble]
- janina: unclear if that is better than just a straight CFC
- 13:24:43 [SteveNoble]
- joconnor: Have pinged Wendy already on her comments
- 13:25:32 [SteveNoble]
- Judy_: will touch base with Wendy in an upcoming meeting just to make sure
- 13:27:06 [SteveNoble]
- janina: don't think we have anything left that is controversial
- 13:28:19 [scott_h]
- Apologies: need to drop off to attend to famly matters
- 13:28:32 [SteveNoble]
- janina: will wait 24 hours and then issue a new CFC
- 13:29:07 [SteveNoble]
- janina: will probably run until Wednesday of next week
- 13:29:10 [scott_h]
- remote meetings update: made some offline progress, Judy and I to potentially discuss next week prior to RQTF
- 13:29:43 [jasonjgw]
- zakim, next item
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- agendum 2 -- XAUR: open issues. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
- 13:30:05 [SteveNoble]
- joconnor: new comments from COGA
- 13:30:19 [SteveNoble]
- joconnor: also, new comments from Wendy
- 13:31:42 [joconnor]
- Signing Avatars: https://github.com/w3c/apa/issues/168
- 13:34:41 [joconnor]
- https://wfdeaf.org/news/resources/wfd-wasli-statement-use-signing-avatars/
- 13:35:32 [joconnor]
- Here is what we have in the XAUR https://raw.githack.com/w3c/apa/6d5bf713d9d7c65ecda104c213ad47b0e98cfbe1/xaur/index.html#text-description-transformation
- 13:35:45 [SteveNoble]
- joconnor: The comment was that signing avatars were not recommended
- 13:36:49 [joconnor]
- q+
- 13:37:02 [SteveNoble]
- janina: Would signing avatars be better than nothing?
- 13:37:31 [JPaton]
- q+
- 13:37:47 [SteveNoble]
- Judy_: this may depend on the context of the meeting and who is involved
- 13:38:58 [SteveNoble]
- joconnor: There are contexts where this could be useful
- 13:39:45 [SteveNoble]
- joconnor: We are mostly talking about prerecorded information
- 13:40:47 [joconnor]
- Here is my overview and suggestion to Wendy and the group
- 13:40:48 [joconnor]
- https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa/2021May/0004.html
- 13:41:06 [SteveNoble]
- jasonjgw: craft a comment which mentions the anticipated further technology advancement
- 13:42:33 [SteveNoble]
- Judy_: all of this is at an early stage, so interested to make sure we hear from direct users and researchers
- 13:43:52 [SteveNoble]
- JPaton: What about prerecorded clips of signing humans?
- 13:44:57 [SteveNoble]
- JPaton: may want to differentiate between computer animated avatars and recorded human signers
- 13:45:56 [joconnor]
- Josh: Heres a preference for pre-recorded signing over avatars.
- 13:47:36 [SteveNoble]
- jasonjgw: given that XR environments will have 3d and enhanced AI, will this benefit signing avatars?