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19:56:34 <trackbot> Meeting: Dataset Exchange Working Group Teleconference
19:56:34 <trackbot> Date: 28 April 2021
19:56:52 <riccardoAlbertoni> agenda: https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2021.04.28
19:57:00 <riccardoAlbertoni> \agenda: https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2021.04.28
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20:00:53 <riccardoAlbertoni> regrets+ PWinstanley, Alejandra
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20:11:10 <AndreaPerego> present+
20:11:21 <riccardoAlbertoni> present+
20:13:32 <riccardoAlbertoni> Chair: RiccardoAlbertoni
20:13:38 <AndreaPerego> scribenick: AndreaPerego
20:13:53 <riccardoAlbertoni> present+
20:14:02 <DaveBrowning> present+
20:14:09 <AndreaPerego> topic: approve last meeting minutes https://www.w3.org/2021/04/14-dxwgdcat-minutes
20:14:18 <AndreaPerego> proposal: approve last meeting minutes https://www.w3.org/2021/04/14-dxwgdcat-minutes
20:14:20 <riccardoAlbertoni> +1
20:14:21 <AndreaPerego> +1
20:14:25 <DaveBrowning> +1
20:14:28 <AndreaPerego> resolved: approve last meeting minutes https://www.w3.org/2021/04/14-dxwgdcat-minutes
20:14:39 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes
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20:14:47 <AndreaPerego> topic: approve agenda
20:14:49 <riccardoAlbertoni> https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2021.04.28
20:14:56 <AndreaPerego> riccardoAlbertoni: Any change needed?
20:15:03 <AndreaPerego> AndreaPerego: Nope
20:15:08 <DaveBrowning> okay by me
20:15:08 <AndreaPerego> DaveBrowning: Fine with me.
20:15:20 <AndreaPerego> topic: advancements on 2PWD
20:15:54 <riccardoAlbertoni> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1C0fWWngAiSSCPH-R3bhhgs71JKRj_XL0hFt37Z8Ee-Y/edit?usp=sharing
20:16:40 <AndreaPerego> riccardoAlbertoni: I will reply to PLH about the resolution to go for 2PWD.
20:17:28 <AndreaPerego> ... I'll also mention the issue with the PubRules checker.
20:17:34 <AndreaPerego> ... Any other things?
20:17:40 <AndreaPerego> AndreaPerego: Not from my side.
20:18:06 <AndreaPerego> DaveBrowning: I'm happy with it.
20:19:01 <AndreaPerego> ... Strange that PubRules checker hangs - it shouldn't, and report instead an error.
20:22:09 <AndreaPerego> topic: DCAT dissemination
20:22:15 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes
20:22:15 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/04/28-dxwgdcat-minutes.html AndreaPerego
20:22:47 <AndreaPerego> riccardoAlbertoni: We had an almost complete version of the DCAT2 paper.
20:23:47 <AndreaPerego> ... I think we are loosing precious time, and maybe we should move it forward as it is.
20:25:02 <AndreaPerego> ... Would this make sense to you? Should we take an additional month to consolidate it?
20:25:04 <AndreaPerego> q+
20:25:12 <riccardoAlbertoni> ack AndreaPerego
20:26:49 <AndreaPerego> AndreaPerego: I think there's still some editorial work to be done, so some additional time might be needed.
20:27:03 <AndreaPerego> .... Maybe we can fix a deadline to complete the paper, and then submit it.
20:27:51 <AndreaPerego> DaveBrowning: Fine with me. We can inform the other authors about the plan, and go ahead.
20:28:16 <AndreaPerego> riccardoAlbertoni: About the deadline, what about the third week of May?
20:29:13 <AndreaPerego> ... Actually, we also need to decide about the journal, and format the paper accordingly.
20:29:39 <riccardoAlbertoni> https://www.elsevier.com/journals/future-generation-computer-systems/0167-739x/guide-for-authors
20:29:47 <AndreaPerego> riccardoAlbertoni: Any objection about submitting to Future Generation Computer Systems
20:30:04 <AndreaPerego> AndreaPerego: +1 from me
20:30:13 <DaveBrowning> +1 also
20:30:31 <AndreaPerego> q+
20:30:45 <riccardoAlbertoni> ack AndreaPerego
20:32:25 <AndreaPerego> AndreaPerego: About dissemination, should we go for open access? Can we publish a pre-print?
20:32:42 <AndreaPerego> riccardoAlbertoni: Preprint is possible, but gold open access is too expensive.
20:33:11 <AndreaPerego> ... But we can share the accepted version?
20:33:22 <AndreaPerego> s/?//
20:33:29 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes
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20:36:16 <riccardoAlbertoni> 21rst may ?
20:36:25 <DaveBrowning> +1
20:36:25 <AndreaPerego> riccardoAlbertoni: So, let's try to have it ready for May, 24th.
20:36:29 <AndreaPerego> AndreaPerego: Agreed.
20:36:34 <AndreaPerego> DaveBrowning: Agreed.
20:37:13 <AndreaPerego> riccardoAlbertoni: I'll drop a mail to the authors.
20:38:25 <AndreaPerego> s/24th/21st/
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20:39:08 <AndreaPerego> topic: open issues
20:39:12 <riccardoAlbertoni> Referencing named graph of endpoint or RDF quad file, https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/1241#
20:39:18 <AndreaPerego> riccardoAlbertoni: I selected one to discuss ^^
20:40:44 <AndreaPerego> riccardoAlbertoni: [summarising the issue]
20:41:56 <AndreaPerego> riccardoAlbertoni: One of the raised issue is that there is not in DCAT a way to specify the graph of a distribution available from a given SPARQL endpoint.
20:42:32 <AndreaPerego> ... This might be in scope with VOID, being RDF-specific.
20:42:57 <AndreaPerego> ... We have two options: either we address the requirement, or reject it.
20:43:17 <AndreaPerego> ... The reason for rejecting is because is RDF-specific.
20:43:35 <AndreaPerego> ... WDYT?
20:43:49 <AndreaPerego> q+
20:43:50 <DaveBrowning> q+
20:43:57 <riccardoAlbertoni> ack AndreaPerego
20:47:08 <riccardoAlbertoni> ack DaveBrowning
20:47:52 <AndreaPerego> AndreaPerego: It is indeed RDF-specific, but it also relates to the more general issue of whether DCAT should provide a way to specify query params. So maybe we can keep it on hold.
20:48:30 <AndreaPerego> ... Another issue raised in the discussion was about relations between distributions, which look similar to another issue raised by Renato Iannella.
20:48:40 <AndreaPerego> ... We may need to consider both things in our reply.
20:49:54 <AndreaPerego> DaveBrowning: I tend to think it is not in scope with DCAT. But we need to be confident that the problem can be addressed somehow.
20:53:06 <AndreaPerego> riccardoAlbertoni: The problem with the link to the distribution from a service/API is that it looks very specific to the technology used, so there may not be a solution that fits all.
20:54:04 <AndreaPerego> ... Maybe we can add an example in the non-normative part, just to point out the issue and that there is no standard solution for that.
20:55:12 <AndreaPerego> DaveBrowning: I agree about the fact that this is specific to technologies.
20:56:10 <AndreaPerego> ... Adding the example helps raising awareness and showing we considered the issue.
20:56:28 <AndreaPerego> q+
20:56:34 <riccardoAlbertoni> ack AndreaPerego
21:00:39 <AndreaPerego> AndreaPerego: Maybe we can add that addressing this issue would require, e.g., agreeing on specific query params for each API interface that can be used to get a specific subset.
21:03:45 <AndreaPerego> riccardoAlbertoni: So, who's going to reply?
21:03:55 <AndreaPerego> DaveBrowning: I'll give it a try.
21:04:12 <AndreaPerego> q+
21:04:19 <riccardoAlbertoni> ack AndreaPerego
21:04:50 <AndreaPerego> riccardoAlbertoni: AOB?
21:05:46 <DaveBrowning> RRSAgent, draft minutes
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21:07:08 <AndreaPerego> [meeting adjourned]
21:07:18 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes
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21:09:12 <AndreaPerego> s/helps raising/helps raise/
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21:10:24 <AndreaPerego> s/showing/shows/
21:10:25 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes
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