IRC log of auto on 2021-04-13

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Meeting: Automotive Working Group Teleconference
18:09:27 [ted]
summary of breakout calls, status
18:10:31 [ted]
VISSv2@@
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VSSo
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RPC
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Arman: vehicle delivery impersonation problems@@
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Ted: MFA @@camera
18:13:28 [ted]
Peter: we are mapping our signals to VSSo/VSS currently internally
18:14:31 [ted]
Present+ Glenn, Ted, Peter, Adnan, Ashish, Arman, Gunnar, Ulf, MagnusG
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Ted: he is in some of those calls and aware we are refactoring
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Adnan: you in contact with Daniel?
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Present+ Daniel
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Peter: Joakim is and will make sure he's aware he can reach out
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Gunnar: you're welcome on those calls too
18:16:56 [ted]
s/internally/internally for a PoC/
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Peter: purpose of the PoC is to demonstrate the usefulness
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Daniel: we are hopefully going to start getting some input and requirements from MS and others
18:19:28 [ted]
… need to collect those as issues in repo
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@vsso link
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Topic: RPC
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Ted summarizes, adding to Geofencing use case notes in wiki @@w
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Gunnar: right in a holding pattern, waiting for a particular oem
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… intent is to build out some concrete services built by tooling before looking at WAMP, gRPC etc
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Ted: Bosch IoT events and BMW WoT interests@@
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Gunnar: we will be having a webinar
18:26:14 [ted]
Ted: maybe also encourage people to read your proposals on slack earlier, and related to RPC event leaf type
18:26:45 [ted]
Gunnar: events and signals may be related to operation, signals is easy to refer back to but still discussing if events should be there or somewhere else
18:26:57 [ted]
… how are events defined or can they carry data?
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Daniel: WoT is taking semantics of signals and making RPC like calls
18:30:32 [ted]
… in github we have a couple comments on VSC, how to use YAML discussion as well
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@@links from VSS call
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Gunnar: we need something more elaborate than OpenAPI
18:32:04 [ted]
Daniel: yes but the structure is the same
18:32:18 [ted]
… agree OpenAPI is really REST based
18:32:46 [ted]
Gunnar: we have some motivation to map to Franca
18:41:58 [ted]
Daniel to update VSSo wiki in github
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Topic: Best Practices and Geofencing
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Ted @@summary
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Adnan: we used a JS library and will need to look at what we used
18:42:43 [ted]
Glenn: I don't have details on how that works but agree it is a useful use case
18:44:49 [ted]
Ted also reached out to SDW group
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Glenn: I was reading an article about elephants being tracked via geofences
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MagnusG: I was involved in a dangerous goods working group that was using geofencing for detecting route deviation
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… that is handled with UN regulations
18:49:39 [ted]
Ted: might be worth seeing how they define that
18:50:04 [ted]
Glenn: I have seen where hazardous routes are known/shared
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MagnusG: this is heavily regulated and has come up with V2x
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Ashish: I'm looking for a related paper where they created groups within a city. notifications are sent based on location, eg deer citing
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