IRC log of apa on 2021-04-07
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- RRSAgent, make logs public
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- Meeting: Accessible Platform Architectures Working Group Teleconference
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- Date: 07 April 2021
- 15:46:19 [becky]
- agenda?
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- zakim, clear agenda
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- agenda cleared
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- agenda+ Agenda Review & Announcements;
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- agenda+ Task Force Updates;
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- agenda+ FAST Progress
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- agenda+ New Charters Review
- 15:47:19 [becky]
- https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22
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- agenda+ Horizontal Review Issues Tracker
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- https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review
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- agenda+ new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html
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- agenda+ CSS Update (Amy) https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues
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- agenda+ Dangling Spec Review Cleanup:
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- https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Category:Spec_Review_Assigned
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- agenda+ Actions Checkin (Specs)
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- https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/open
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- agenda+ Other Business
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- agenda?
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- chair: becky
- 16:00:28 [paul_grenier]
- present+
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- present+
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- Present+
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- Present+
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- regrets: Gottfried Zimmerman, David Fazio, Ian Pouncey
- 16:05:14 [JF]
- agenda?
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- present+
- 16:06:10 [paul_grenier]
- scribe: paul_grenier
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- trackbot, start meeting
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- RRSAgent, make logs public
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- scribe: paul_grenier
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- Meeting: Accessible Platform Architectures Working Group Teleconference
- 16:06:27 [trackbot]
- Date: 07 April 2021
- 16:06:31 [paul_grenier]
- zakim, agenda?
- 16:06:31 [Zakim]
- I see 10 items remaining on the agenda:
- 16:06:32 [Zakim]
- 1. Agenda Review & Announcements; [from becky]
- 16:06:32 [Zakim]
- 2. Task Force Updates; [from becky]
- 16:06:32 [Zakim]
- 3. FAST Progress [from becky]
- 16:06:32 [Zakim]
- 4. New Charters Review [from becky]
- 16:06:32 [Zakim]
- 5. Horizontal Review Issues Tracker [from becky]
- 16:06:32 [Zakim]
- 6. new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html [from becky]
- 16:06:33 [Zakim]
- 7. CSS Update (Amy) https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues [from becky]
- 16:06:33 [Zakim]
- 8. Dangling Spec Review Cleanup: [from becky]
- 16:06:33 [Zakim]
- 9. Actions Checkin (Specs) [from becky]
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- 10. Other Business [from becky]
- 16:06:43 [paul_grenier]
- zakim, next item
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- agendum 1 -- Agenda Review & Announcements; -- taken up [from becky]
- 16:07:08 [paul_grenier]
- zakim, close this item
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- agendum 1 closed
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- I see 9 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
- 16:07:09 [Zakim]
- 2. Task Force Updates; [from becky]
- 16:07:13 [paul_grenier]
- zakim, next item
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- agendum 2 -- Task Force Updates; -- taken up [from becky]
- 16:08:15 [paul_grenier]
- janina: RQTF update and a pronunciation one. I posted a decision on the XAUR, there was only one objection thinking that COGA would have specific comments.
- 16:08:59 [paul_grenier]
- janina: Someone tried to post comments but it was sent to the restricted list. So there are 4 comments we will review.
- 16:09:37 [paul_grenier]
- janina: the other document, the RAUR (RTC) we got last minute comments from a d/Deaf HoH group.
- 16:10:20 [paul_grenier]
- janina: these changes help so I think we can incorporate them fairly quickly. They seem editorial in nature. Josh will take it up when he's back from vacation.
- 16:10:48 [paul_grenier]
- janina: 11 highly specific and actionable comments that do not substantively change the document.
- 16:11:52 [paul_grenier]
- janina: we're getting close to a document providing advice for canned media as well. Becky or I will end up conducting a workshop.
- 16:12:18 [paul_grenier]
- janina: the report from RQTF will be relevant. Timed text knows this is coming.
- 16:12:45 [paul_grenier]
- janina: we will also let Silver know since it will impact WCAG3.0, probably less than a month away.
- 16:13:27 [paul_grenier]
- janina: RQTF is also working on a document for natural language (NAUR)
- 16:13:40 [janina]
- https://www.w3.org/2021/04/07-pronunciation-minutes.html#ResolutionSummary
- 16:13:42 [paul_grenier]
- janina: moving on to pronunciation...
- 16:14:09 [paul_grenier]
- janina: a request for APA to run a CfC on the first public working draft
- 16:14:32 [paul_grenier]
- janina: once Michael approves, we want to sent it out for wider consensus.
- 16:15:34 [JF]
- Q+ to ask about COGA gender labels issue
- 16:15:35 [paul_grenier]
- janina: I'll also speak to COGA: we're ready to publish with some minor modifications and editorial updates.
- 16:16:12 [paul_grenier]
- janina: we also need a snapshot URL for content useable, Michael
- 16:16:26 [MichaelC]
- https://raw.githack.com/w3c/coga/c069311e31de5aaafcecbb778fd5f466b99272eb/content-usable/index.html
- 16:17:03 [paul_grenier]
- ack JF
- 16:17:03 [Zakim]
- JF, you wanted to ask about COGA gender labels issue
- 16:17:46 [paul_grenier]
- MichaelC: they made it consistent
- 16:18:19 [paul_grenier]
- janina: next steps for pronunciation would be to approve running the CfC and get a url for that as well
- 16:18:47 [paul_grenier]
- becky: personalization didn't meet, we had people out for the holiday
- 16:18:57 [paul_grenier]
- zakim, next item
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- agendum 3 -- FAST Progress -- taken up [from becky]
- 16:19:56 [paul_grenier]
- janina: when we logged the resolution in pronunciation, we had a color contrast issue in the minutes. JF can provide more details. We may need to address the template.
- 16:20:36 [MichaelC]
- https://github.com/w3c/scribe2
- 16:20:51 [paul_grenier]
- MichaelC: please post an issue or PR
- 16:21:02 [paul_grenier]
- JF: I will take this as an issue
- 16:21:27 [JF]
- ACTION: JF to file bug against color contrast in minutes template (Orange)
- 16:21:27 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-2286 - File bug against color contrast in minutes template (orange) [on John Foliot - due 2021-04-14].
- 16:22:01 [paul_grenier]
- MichaelC: in the silver functional leads group we're steering toward a list of user needs but more could come from that
- 16:22:19 [paul_grenier]
- MichaelC: we should have something to share soon
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 4 -- New Charters Review -- taken up [from becky]
- 16:22:44 [becky]
- https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22
- 16:22:53 [paul_grenier]
- MichaelC: there are no new groups
- 16:23:06 [paul_grenier]
- zakim, next item
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- agendum 4 was just opened, paul_grenier
- 16:23:12 [paul_grenier]
- zakim, close this item
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- agendum 4 closed
- 16:23:13 [Zakim]
- I see 6 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
- 16:23:13 [Zakim]
- 5. Horizontal Review Issues Tracker [from becky]
- 16:23:15 [paul_grenier]
- zakim, next item
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- agendum 5 -- Horizontal Review Issues Tracker -- taken up [from becky]
- 16:23:19 [becky]
- https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review
- 16:23:37 [paul_grenier]
- MichaelC: there are no new issues to our attention this week
- 16:24:09 [paul_grenier]
- zakim, close this item
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- agendum 5 closed
- 16:24:10 [Zakim]
- I see 5 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
- 16:24:10 [Zakim]
- 6. new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html [from becky]
- 16:24:12 [paul_grenier]
- zakim, next item
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- agendum 6 -- new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html -- taken up [from becky]
- 16:24:22 [paul_grenier]
- MichaelC: there's nothing new this week
- 16:24:26 [paul_grenier]
- zakim, close this item
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- agendum 6 closed
- 16:24:27 [Zakim]
- I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
- 16:24:27 [Zakim]
- 7. CSS Update (Amy) https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues [from becky]
- 16:24:27 [paul_grenier]
- zakim, next item
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- agendum 7 -- CSS Update (Amy) https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues -- taken up [from becky]
- 16:24:56 [paul_grenier]
- amy_c: Rachael Andrews wanted review on this
- 16:25:04 [amy_c]
- https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues/2
- 16:25:18 [paul_grenier]
- amy_c: I'll take a look at it.
- 16:25:32 [paul_grenier]
- amy_c: I was looking at closing the CSS fonts module level 4 review
- 16:25:38 [amy_c]
- https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues/17
- 16:26:13 [paul_grenier]
- amy_c: I was just checking if we need to make some sort of accessibility statement
- 16:28:17 [paul_grenier]
- becky: previous statement was about wingdings fonts used where we now have emojis more common
- 16:29:12 [paul_grenier]
- MichaelC: providing alternatives if you're using fonts that don't align with their unicode code points
- 16:30:41 [paul_grenier]
- amy_c: we'll offer an accessibility consideration so they can close
- 16:30:48 [paul_grenier]
- MichaelC: I added a comment
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 8 -- Dangling Spec Review Cleanup: -- taken up [from becky]
- 16:33:12 [becky]
- https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Category:Spec_Review_Assigned
- 16:33:43 [paul_grenier]
- MichaelC: I went through another 5 in the last week
- 16:33:56 [MichaelC]
- https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Data_Catalog_Vocabulary_(DCAT)_-_Version_3
- 16:34:43 [MichaelC]
- https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa/2021Jan/0006.html
- 16:36:02 [paul_grenier]
- janina: sounds OK to me
- 16:36:08 [paul_grenier]
- becky: agree
- 16:36:29 [paul_grenier]
- janina: it goes to the chairs and then a cfc
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- becky: I can do it in the next couple of days
- 16:36:56 [MichaelC]
- https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Web_App_Manifest_-_Application_Information
- 16:37:00 [MichaelC]
- https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa/2021Feb/0048.html
- 16:39:38 [paul_grenier]
- https://github.com/w3c/manifest-app-info/issues/29
- 16:44:38 [MichaelC]
- https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/The_Screen_Fold_API
- 16:44:47 [MichaelC]
- https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa/2021Jan/0004.html
- 16:47:00 [paul_grenier]
- janina: we may want to issue a cfc for this oen.
- 16:47:18 [paul_grenier]
- MichaelC: web RTC next use cases
- 16:47:28 [paul_grenier]
- janina: the result is the RAUR
- 16:47:52 [MichaelC]
- https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/WebXR_Gamepads_Module_-_Level_1
- 16:48:33 [paul_grenier]
- janina: the XAUR addresses this, and we've got silver involved
- 16:48:50 [paul_grenier]
- becky: do we wait for Josh? It's almost a year old.
- 16:49:29 [paul_grenier]
- zakim, next item
- 16:49:29 [Zakim]
- agendum 9 -- Actions Checkin (Specs) -- taken up [from becky]
- 16:49:53 [paul_grenier]
- zakim, close this item
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- agendum 9 closed
- 16:49:54 [Zakim]
- I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:
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- 10. Other Business [from becky]
- 16:49:56 [paul_grenier]
- zakim, next item
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- agendum 10 -- Other Business -- taken up [from becky]
- 16:52:43 [JF]
- Huge +1
- 16:54:34 [becky]
- https://github.com/dataviza11y/Why-We-Exist
- 16:55:01 [becky]
- DataViz Accessibility Advocacy and Advisory Group (above link)
- 16:56:53 [becky]
- https://fizz.studio/ Doug Scheppers home pages
- 16:57:21 [paul_grenier]
- RRSAgent, make logs public
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- RRSAgent, make minutes
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/04/07-apa-minutes.html paul_grenier