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16:59:11 <MichaelC> rrsagent, make log world
16:59:11 <MichaelC> meeting: ARIA Editors
16:59:12 <MichaelC> chair: MichaelC
16:59:14 <MichaelC> scribe: MichaelC
16:59:16 <MichaelC> scribeOptions: -final
16:59:18 <MichaelC> agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-aria-editors/2021Mar/0004.html
16:59:21 <MichaelC> agenda+ Stable branch in AccName
16:59:22 <MichaelC> agenda+ Next steps on AccName
16:59:24 <MichaelC> agenda+ 1.2 CR status
16:59:26 <MichaelC> agenda+ Testing - WPT or other platforms, sharing the load
16:59:28 <MichaelC> agenda+ W3C Calendaring check-in
16:59:30 <MichaelC> agenda+ Check in on moving abstract roles out of spec
16:59:32 <MichaelC> agenda+ Next meeting
17:00:51 <MichaelC> present+
17:01:14 <MichaelC> agenda+ Moving to latest version of respec
17:01:30 <joanie> present+ Joanmarie_Diggs
17:03:36 <MichaelC> regrets+ Melanie_Sumner
17:04:07 <jamesn> present+
17:04:25 <MichaelC> agenda order 1,2,3,8
17:04:31 <MichaelC> agenda?
17:05:09 <MichaelC> zakim, next item
17:05:09 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Stable branch in AccName -- taken up [from MichaelC]
17:05:14 <Jemma> present+
17:05:15 <MichaelC> no quorum for this, skipping
17:05:19 <MichaelC> zakim, close this item
17:05:19 <Zakim> agendum 1 closed
17:05:20 <Zakim> I see 7 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
17:05:20 <Zakim> 2. Next steps on AccName [from MichaelC]
17:05:21 <MichaelC> zakim, next item
17:05:22 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- Next steps on AccName -- taken up [from MichaelC]
17:05:23 <MichaelC> no quorum for this, skipping
17:05:27 <MichaelC> zakim, close this item
17:05:27 <Zakim> agendum 2 closed
17:05:28 <Zakim> I see 6 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
17:05:28 <Zakim> 3. 1.2 CR status [from MichaelC]
17:05:29 <MichaelC> zakim, next item
17:05:29 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- 1.2 CR status -- taken up [from MichaelC]
17:05:51 <MichaelC> Finishing testing
17:05:57 <MichaelC> will discuss with WG tomorrow
17:06:16 <MichaelC> need people to help out creating tests
17:06:38 <MichaelC> that meet quality metrics
17:09:13 <MichaelC> zakim, close this item
17:09:13 <Zakim> agendum 3 closed
17:09:14 <Zakim> I see 5 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
17:09:14 <Zakim> 8. Moving to latest version of respec [from MichaelC]
17:09:20 <MichaelC> zakim, take up item 4
17:09:20 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- Testing - WPT or other platforms, sharing the load -- taken up [from MichaelC]
17:10:11 <MichaelC> Chromium dumps a11y tree much like the ATTAs do
17:10:40 <MichaelC> can create HTML file, create expectations, it will run the tests for all browsers
17:11:56 <MichaelC> this could allow us to get rid of WPT tests, which are manual, difficult to maintain
17:12:38 <MichaelC> proposal that new ARIA features would require not just a test, but a test file
17:12:42 <MichaelC> using this format
17:12:55 <MichaelC> (would document in https://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/workflow)
17:13:40 <MichaelC> would end up with a downloadable binary
17:14:47 <MichaelC> down the road, also would like AT tests for the aria-at tests as part of the whole shebang
17:15:34 <MichaelC> working on a webdriver-like tool for AT
17:18:37 <Jemma> https://github.com/w3c/aria-at/issues/349#issuecomment-740687349
17:23:49 <MichaelC> so we have tests for ARIA, ATs, and APG patterns to put together
17:25:42 <Jemma> I suggest that we document this discussion - connecting ARIA, APG and AT via automated and integrated testing efforts.
17:28:12 <Jemma> +1 for mapping out workflow
17:29:09 <MichaelC> zakim, close this item
17:29:09 <Zakim> agendum 4 closed
17:29:10 <Zakim> I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
17:29:10 <Zakim> 8. Moving to latest version of respec [from MichaelC]
17:29:26 <MichaelC> zakim, take up item 8
17:29:26 <Zakim> agendum 8 -- Moving to latest version of respec -- taken up [from MichaelC]
17:29:48 <MichaelC> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-aria-editors/2021Mar/0005.html
17:29:55 <MichaelC> Jquery has been removed from our scripts
17:30:22 <MichaelC> switch to respec-w3c instead of respec-w3c-common
17:30:26 <MichaelC> requires a new event model
17:30:31 <MichaelC> for our add-on scripts
17:31:11 <MichaelC> respec now has a feature to ¨export¨ terms
17:31:17 <MichaelC> so they can be ¨imported¨ in other specs
17:31:23 <MichaelC> some terms not really used
17:33:05 <MichaelC> should export terms from spec most suited, will involve ARIA, Core-AAM, AccName at least
17:33:20 <MichaelC> import other terms, from other ARIA specs and other W3C specs
17:35:08 <MichaelC> there´s a bit of a circular issue with cron jobs that will break things, but it´ll get fixed on next publication
17:35:52 <MichaelC> there could be a period of weeks where editors´ drafts have broken references to terms
17:36:14 <MichaelC> (ones that have been linked but no longer reference, or not yet exported)
17:37:49 <MichaelC> impact on APG to be sorted later
17:38:39 <MichaelC> need to figure out what specs should own big terms like ¨Assistive Technology¨
17:39:44 <MichaelC> take to WAI-CC after we do this in ARIA
17:43:48 <MichaelC> <discussion of arcana of our set-up>
17:46:50 <Jemma> agenda?
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17:52:09 <micro__> zakim, close this item
17:52:09 <Zakim> agendum 8 closed
17:52:10 <Zakim> I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
17:52:10 <Zakim> 5. W3C Calendaring check-in [from MichaelC]
17:52:13 <micro__> zakim, take up item 6
17:52:13 <Zakim> agendum 6 -- Check in on moving abstract roles out of spec -- taken up [from MichaelC]
17:52:19 <micro__> <being dealt with another way>
17:52:23 <micro__> zakim, next item
17:52:23 <Zakim> agendum 6 was just opened, micro__
17:52:29 <micro__> zakim, close this item
17:52:29 <Zakim> agendum 6 closed
17:52:30 <Zakim> I see 2 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
17:52:30 <Zakim> 5. W3C Calendaring check-in [from MichaelC]
17:52:31 <micro__> zakim, next item
17:52:31 <Zakim> agendum 5 -- W3C Calendaring check-in -- taken up [from MichaelC]
17:53:27 <MichaelC> Using new calendar tool for ARIA WG
17:53:37 <MichaelC> event gets update with agenda each week
17:59:44 <MichaelC> <noodling on how it´s working for us>
18:02:39 <MichaelC> zakim, next item
18:02:39 <Zakim> agendum 7 -- Next meeting -- taken up [from MichaelC]
18:02:46 <MichaelC> Next meeting: April 14 2021
18:02:53 <MichaelC> regrets from MCK and Joanie
18:03:15 <MichaelC> rrsagent, make minutes
18:03:15 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/03/31-aria-editors-minutes.html MichaelC