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13:51:40 <trackbot> Meeting: XForms Users Community Group Teleconference
13:51:40 <trackbot> Date: 26 March 2021
13:51:43 <Steven> Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2021Mar/0013
13:51:47 <Steven> Chair: Steven
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13:58:35 <Steven> Present: Alain, Erik, Steven
13:59:41 <Steven> Topic: Daylight Savings
13:59:50 <Steven> Steven: *Really* back to normal next week.
14:00:16 <Steven> Topic: ACTION-2295: Check that his implementation combined @instance and
14:00:16 <Steven> @targetref correctly
14:00:16 <Steven> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2021Jan/0002
14:00:26 <Steven> Erik: Continues
14:00:34 <Steven> Topic: Response headers
14:00:34 <Steven> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2021Mar/0006
14:01:00 <Steven> Steven: Not sure if we need to say any more
14:01:06 <Steven> Erik: An example in the spec?
14:01:09 <Steven> Steven: Good idea
14:01:31 <Steven> Erik: It could be specified to return a document
14:01:53 <Steven> ... it was already in XF 1.1, returning a nodeset
14:02:18 <Steven> Steven: So we can't change it, because it would make it non backwards compatible
14:02:44 <Steven> ACTION: Steven to add an example of using event('response-headers')
14:02:44 <trackbot> Created ACTION-2299 - Add an example of using event('response-headers') [on Steven Pemberton - due 2021-04-02].
14:02:57 <Steven> Erik: In Orbeon, we do create a document
14:03:06 <Steven> ... it was the easiest thing to do.
14:03:51 <Steven> Topic: Sorting
14:04:04 <Steven> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2021Mar/0012
14:05:14 <Steven> Steven: It would be good to have something
14:05:25 <Steven> Erik: XPath 2 doesn;t have the tools to do it properly
14:05:31 <Steven> s/;/'/
14:05:46 <Steven> Erik: You want to have a function that is a parameter.
14:06:03 <Steven> ... SUpporting XPath 3 would solve everything
14:06:09 <Steven> s/SU/Su/
14:07:01 <Steven> Erik: It is less useful to sort and not be able to specify what you want to sort on
14:07:14 <Steven> ... exforms what did they do
14:07:23 <Steven> Steven: They ised strings, so they had to do an eval()
14:07:30 <Steven> s/ised/used/
14:07:54 <Steven> Steven: Tricky to do it correctly, while future proof...
14:08:10 <Steven> Erik: We could consider going to XPath 3
14:08:44 <Steven> ... it's a movind target in the sense that they are looking at a XPath 4
14:08:53 <Steven> s/ a X/an X/
14:09:14 <Steven> s/movind/moving/
14:09:31 <Steven> Erik: XPath 2 is 2010
14:09:44 <Steven> ... so it's not recent.
14:10:05 <Steven> Steven: Alain is going to XPath 3
14:10:11 <Steven> Erik: We are planning to do that as well.
14:11:25 <Steven> ... if we want sort function features, we should open the door to XPath 3.1.
14:12:16 <Steven> ... We could allow implementers to use XPath 3, without excluding XPath 2
14:12:32 <Steven> Alain: Then we wouldn't need to have a function definition syntax
14:12:46 <Steven> Steven: Since XPath 3 supports that already...
14:13:06 <Steven> Erik: XPath 2 introduces sequences, atomic values, and they remain in XPath 3.
14:13:30 <Steven> ... XPath 3 adds maps and arrays and functions
14:13:43 <Steven> s/maps and/maps,
14:14:23 <Steven> ACTION: Steven to look at allowing XPath 2 and 3
14:14:23 <trackbot> Created ACTION-2300 - Look at allowing xpath 2 and 3 [on Steven Pemberton - due 2021-04-02].
14:14:36 <Steven> Erik: We say something in the introduction
14:15:05 <Steven> Topic: ACTION-2296: Add text to make it clear where xforms-action-error is
14:15:05 <Steven> dispatched to.
14:15:05 <Steven> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2021Jan/0010
14:16:33 <Steven> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2021Mar/0014.html
14:17:23 <Steven> Steven: OK with the decision to send xforms-load-error to the handler in the same way as xforms-action-error?
14:17:25 <Steven> All: Yes
14:17:49 <Steven> ACTION: Steven to update load-error to go to the listener.
14:17:49 <trackbot> Created ACTION-2301 - Update load-error to go to the listener. [on Steven Pemberton - due 2021-04-02].
14:18:17 <Steven> Topic: AOB
14:18:28 <Steven> [None]
14:18:36 <Steven> [ADJOURN]
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