IRC log of apa on 2021-03-10

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Meeting: Accessible Platform Architectures Working Group Teleconference
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Date: 10 March 2021
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Chair: Becky
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agenda+ Agenda Review & Announcements; Time Changes;
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agenda+ Special presentation Media Queries to enhance accessibility
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https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa/2021Feb/0053.html
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agenda+ Open CFC -
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https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa-admin/2021Mar/0001.html
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agenda+ Task Force Updates
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agenda+ New Charters Review
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https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22
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agenda+ Horizontal Review Issues Tracker
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https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review
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agenda+ new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html
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agenda+ Other Business
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present+
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present+
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scribe: Gottfried
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present+
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present+
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present+
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present+
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present+ Laura_Carlson
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present+
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zakim, take item 1
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I don't understand 'take item 1', Gottfried
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present+ John Paton
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zakim, next item
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agendum 1 -- Agenda Review & Announcements; Time Changes; -- taken up [from becky]
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present+
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present+
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present+ JeanneSpellman
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present+
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present+
17:05:48 [Gottfried]
https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Media_features_use_cases_for_personalization
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Niklas Schildhauer is a graduate student of Computer Science and Media at Stuttgart Media University, Germany.
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His bachelor thesis builds upon the proposed media features by APA (see link above).
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present+
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Media feature candidates:
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prefers-color-scheme, prefers-reduced-motion, prefers-contrast, forced-colors, prefers-reduced-transparency, prefers-reduced-data
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More from the GPII project: audio-description-enabled captions-enabled sign-language & sign-language-enabled pictograms-enabled self-voicing-enabled display-skiplinks table-of-contents session-timeout extended-session-timeout
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More information: https://gitlab.mi.hdm-stuttgart.de/ns107/ba-mq5
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David: Is this intended for user agents or site owners?
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Niklas: UA have to implement the media queries. Site authors can write appropriate code.
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David: Is this already available in user agents?
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Niklas: Yes, but only with polyfills and a workaround for environment variables.
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David: This is good for the work of the personalization tf.
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Example web page: https://gpii.eu/mq-5/example/registration
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present+
17:29:36 [joconnor]
Nice presentation 🙂
17:29:57 [Fredrik]
awe+
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David: Are there negative side effects of the hack?
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Niklas: In the draft for environment variables, there is a note that this is an open issue. But no negative side effects.
17:30:57 [Fredrik]
Great presentation, Niklas! Very interesting.
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present+
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GitHub link: https://gitlab.mi.hdm-stuttgart.de/ns107/ba-mq5
17:32:38 [Fazio_]
ada aA+1 to JF
17:33:17 [laura]
Thank you, Niklas.
17:33:35 [Fredrik]
Guten Appetit Niklas!
17:33:49 [laura]
Thank you, APA.
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zakim, next item
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agendum 2 -- Special presentation Media Queries to enhance accessibility -- taken up [from becky]
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zakim, close this item
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agendum 2 closed
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I see 6 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
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3. Open CFC - [from becky]
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zakim, next item
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agendum 3 -- Open CFC - -- taken up [from becky]
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present+
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https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa-admin/2021Mar/0001.html
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Becky: The CfC closes tonight.
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... You need to subscribe to the wai-admin mailing list.
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zakim, close this item
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agendum 3 closed
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I see 5 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
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4. Task Force Updates [from becky]
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zakim, next item
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agendum 4 -- Task Force Updates -- taken up [from becky]
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Jason: RTC accessibility user requirements and XR accessibility user requirements are heading towards publication.
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... Media synchronization related to audio/video and captions
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... Task force starting work on accessibility of speech based interfaces.
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... Will start with an early stage draft.
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Janina: CfC for RTC accessibility and XR accessibility will come in the next couple of weeks.
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... Pronunciation TF: Document needs to be revised to contain more contextual information.
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... Hopefully will take only a couple of weeks.
17:40:16 [janina]
regrets+ Paul
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regrets+ Leonie
17:40:38 [Gottfried]
Becky: Personalization tf will need a few more weeks for CfC.
17:41:01 [Fazio_]
we are in cfc
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Janina: Cognitive and learning disabilities tf will have their doc ready hopefully next week.
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zakim, next item
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agendum 5 -- New Charters Review -- taken up [from becky]
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Michael: Media wg charter
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https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22
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-> https://w3c.github.io/charter-media-wg/ Proposed Media WG charter
17:42:52 [Gottfried]
Michael: Looks like a straight forward recharter. No major changes.
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Becky: Looked at PiP.
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Michael: We had only comments on EME (Encrypted Media Extensions).
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... It is an approach to digital rights management
17:44:56 [Fredrik]
Thanks - was also wondering.
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John: Very political discussion on EME
17:45:59 [MichaelC]
-> https://w3c.github.io/media-and-entertainment/charters/charter-2021.html PROPOSED Media and Entertainment Interest Group Charter
17:46:21 [Gottfried]
We are comfortable with the proposed Media WG charter.
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We are comfortabel with the proposed Media and Entertainment Interest Group Charter
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s/comfortabel/comfortable
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zakim, next item
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agendum 6 -- Horizontal Review Issues Tracker -- taken up [from becky]
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https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review
17:48:00 [Gottfried]
Michael: This allows us to track existing issues that are filed on specs.
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... Now added: When a spec is going to wide review, we can flag issues or close issues.
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Becky: This is similar to the process for i18n.
17:49:25 [MichaelC]
-> https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/5983 [css-fonts-5] advance-override details
17:50:31 [Gottfried]
Michael: This is under active discussion. Do we want to follow?
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Ian: Need to read it first.
17:52:20 [MichaelC]
-> https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/5433 [mediaqueries-5] duplication of `forced-colors: active` and `prefers-contrast: forced`
17:52:41 [Gottfried]
Michael: I think we wanted James Craig to sign off the issue.
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Becky: Keep it open for now.
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zakim, next item
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agendum 7 -- new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html -- taken up [from becky]
17:53:36 [MichaelC]
-> https://www.w3.org/TR/image-resource/ Image Resource
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https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Image_Resource
17:53:53 [Gottfried]
Michael: We had a discussion on this about 1 year ago.
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... No actions since then i believe.
17:54:30 [Gottfried]
... It is an API for an image. Like an abstract class for images.
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Becky: "Label" provides the accessible name.
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John: Specify alternative images based on size. But only one alternative text can be provided.
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Michael: It is probably meant for icon collections.
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Janina: Yes. And it should be made clear.
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Michael: Either file a comment or stop our tracking?
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John: Let me investigate this and discuss again next week.
17:56:26 [JF]
ACTION: JF to investigate https://www.w3.org/TR/image-resource/ - do we have a comment to submit?
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Created ACTION-2284 - Investigate https://www.w3.org/tr/image-resource/ - do we have a comment to submit? [on John Foliot - due 2021-03-17].
17:56:38 [Gottfried]
Becky: "Authors are strongly encouraged to add a label unless..."
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zakim, next item
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agendum 8 -- Other Business -- taken up [from becky]
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Becky: How to publish the recording of the presentation today?
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Janina: First we need to work on it, e.g. put a title frame on. I need to talk about this in the coordination group.
17:58:54 [Fredrik]
Thanks everyone! See you next week!
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zakim, bye
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leaving. As of this point the attendees have been JF, Fazio_, Gottfried, janina, becky, Fredrik, Laura_Carlson, amy_c, John, Paton, dlibby_, sharon, JeanneSpellman, ela, MichaelC,
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rsagent, draft minutes
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agenda+
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agenda?
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rrsagent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/03/10-apa-minutes.html Gottfried
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janina has changed the topic to: APA Teleconference; Wednesday 17 March at 1600Z
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